E4 Fun

[Vlerkies]

Just a few kills on Atag after leaving the E1 and climbing into an E4 for the first time in months.

[Continu0]

Thx, good kills! A lot of flames and smoke! You sir should share your loadout!

[Vlerkies]

Thx.
Yeah quite easy to flame up stuff in the E4 with the canon, not the Spit though. Been flying E1 only but last weekend jumped into the E4 for shitz and giggles. So much easier to bring down planes.

Nose MG is Hor:900 Vert:100
Phosphur mit Stahlkern
Spitzgeschoss mit Kern, Hart

Canon is Hor:130 Vert:100
Minengeschosspatrone

[9./JG52 Lopp]

Nice video. Great shooting and very steady on the controls.

[AKA_Recon]

nice work, good combo of mg and cannon use

[Otyg]

Good shooting tex! so all that time in the E1 made you a sniper

I wish my game looked like that... uhhh i want tree's and cool haze..

[Vlerkies]

Cheers, thanks for watching.
With good teamwork/wingman, it makes it possible.

[AKA_Recon]

tried your loadout last night - had my best 'instant kill' ever - completely ripped the hurricane's wing off and lit him on fire - (from super close range)...

so... what loadout do you use for the 109e3 ?

[Vlerkies]

Havent flown the E3 much at all, but convergence will be the same across all variants.

MG's the same loadout on all variants
Phosphur mit Stahlkern
Spitzgeschoss mit Kern, Hart

I dont like to use tracer so if that option exists in the E3 I will take it.
Looking at the E3 loadouts in the game it seems a bit messy, some admin work required there by the devs.
The E3 ammo is somewhat of a mystery to me and all I have found online today is conflicting data as to what it is exactly!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_151_cannon
http://www.theairtacticalassaultgrou...=gerammunition

The panzerbrandgranate are AP, but the fusing of the rounds differ a lot, the burn through self detonation also varies (time/distance), Some have no burn through self destruct.
Some were designed for ships and only exploded after passing through 3-15mm of steel depending on which round it is. How that is modelled in the game I dunno.
I seem to remember there were more types of 20mm ammo in the original game, they seem to be missing for the E3 now.

I would choose the one that explodes on impact, and has no tracer if available, whatever that may be?
A few 20mm rounds hitting aircraft like these anywhere at good convergence is going to be pretty lethal. Heavy AP rounds may penetrate and only explode on the other side of the aircraft, not sure how this is modeled.

Canon is Hor:130 Vert:100
????

Maybe someone else has a definitive explanation of these ammo types and how they are modelled in the game?
It's as clear as mud to me I am afraid

[Vlerkies]

Ok I found this, I even posted in the thread lol, my brain is like a sift

We have made a few changes that are not yet in the wiki, please have a look in the TF4 wiki:
http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.co...ead.php?t=6319

MG FF:
-Sprenggranate L'spur m.Zerl (134g AP round with small HE payload, with tracer and self destruction)
-Panzergranate L'spur (134g AP with tracer)
-Panzergranate (134g AP)

MG FF/M:
-Panzergranate (115g AP)
-Panzerbrandgranate Phosphor o.Zerl (115g AP/I without self destruction)
-Panzersprenggranate L'spur m.Zerl (115g AP with small HE payload, with tracer and self destruction)
-Brandsprenggranate L'spur m.Zerl (115g HE/I with tracer and self destruction)
-Brandgranate L'spur o.Zerl (115g I with tracer without self destruction)
-M-Geschoss m.Zerl (92g HE with self destruction)

Please note that;
1. the change of the "Panzerbrandgranate" with "Panzergranate" is purely a name change as it was a pure AP round even in "vanilla Clod".
2. we removed the "Panzerbrandgranate (Elektron)" and filled it's place with the "Panzersprenggranate" since there is no reason to keep both the "Phosphor" and "Elektron" variants of this round (The game engine can't model the "Elektron's" historical payload of elektronthermit)

Cheers/m

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.co...ead.php?t=6822

In the loadout screen
2cm Pzgr.Patr.FF o.Zerl -I think this is just a AP round, no self destruct no tracer.

All the rest are HE rounds with a tracer component it seems, with the option of a self destruct and non self destruct projectile.
Si it looks like there is no getting away with using an HE round without tracer in the 20mm E3.

[Vlerkies]

Holysh1tballs, I even got a Spitfire to catch fire

[3./JG51_Heiden]

Really like your shooting!

[ATAG_Endless]

Baie lekker boet

[Wingnut]

The most impressive part of that first video is the team work and communication with your wingman. Hard to beat a great team!