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    Ground Control Take Off and Circuits

    Hi all,
    quick question as a newbie..

    I've read a few threads on Ground control clearance for Landing and Taking off.. i.e. it doesn't work unless AI is turned on - is that correct?..
    Post mission I can never get clearance to land even though I believe I have correctly joined the correct left hand circuit for landing.

    There are a couple of threads where it mentions this doesn't work unless you have AI turned on.. however I've mapped a key and tried a joystick button to the toggle AI.. but it just seems to turn it on and immediately turn it off..

    Does clearances work at all or should I just ignore that area?
    Thanks
    Mutleyxxx

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    Re: Ground Control Take Off and Circuits

    Hi Mutley and welcome to the forum!

    I hope you don't mind me moving your thread to the Single Players Lounge. I saw you were getting no responses up in the ATAG Flight School section, probably because that area is geared towards multiplayer training (although there is nothing to indicate that to a newcomer).

    Hopefully our vast and knowledgeable cadre of single players will see your query here and provide you the information you need.

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    Re: Ground Control Take Off and Circuits

    Thanks
    believe I've found the solution.. basically the request clearance and landing doesn't working manually.. seems I have to switch AI on - then clearance is given and I switch it off and take off or land from there..
    Mutleyxxx

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    Re: Ground Control Take Off and Circuits

    Switching auto pilot on briefly is the simplest solution.

    If you are the lead plane of a group it is sometimes/often better to leave it on until after takeoff- when flaps come up is a good point (you will often see a little 'kick' in the plane as it leaves 'takeoff mode' )- then the other planes will follow you and respond to radio commands (as well as CoD's AI allows).

    There is another way to do this (1lokos may want to comment on this).

    The reason you don't get takeoff/landing messages is apparently due to the message file size (too small) which means it is not played bey the game engine (again 1lokos may have more to add).

    Landing - autopilot briefly should work if you are within the airfields radius of 'influence'.

    One thing to remember is that in CoD planes land in 'reverse order- the last plane in group lands fist and the leader lands last

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    Re: Ground Control Take Off and Circuits

    I remember this:

    http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.co...ead.php?t=8127

    For these broke messages files you can copy similar one from il-2 1946 - rename with CloD actual name - or even record you own.

    To make you "suffer" a little more, this is the list of CloD radio messages that should work on release - if not "broken" and later cut down.

    If work, you should by able to define - be typing - the new frequency for radio comm, distance for gunners open fire, new altitude for AI flight, type of attack for AI...

    order----------------------------------"Radio message"
    order Target_From_Task Target From Task
    order All All
    order Fighters Fighters
    order Bombers Bombers
    order My_Target_Type My Target Type (by viewport)
    order My_Target My Target (by viewport)
    order Back Back
    order Attack Attack
    order Cover Cover
    order Air_Targets Air Targets
    order Tanks Tanks
    order Flak Flak
    order Vehicles Vehicles
    order Train Train
    order Bridge Bridge
    order Ships Ships
    order Ground_Targets Ground Targets
    order Drop_Tanks Drop Tanks
    order Drop_Bombs Drop Bombs
    order Rejoin Rejoin
    order Go_To_Start Go To First Waypoint
    order Takeoff Take Off
    order Return_To_Base Return To Base
    order Hang_On Hang On
    order Add Point Add Point
    order Next_Point Next Point
    order Previous_Point Previous Point
    order Order_Height Altitude

    order Navigation Navigation
    order Vector_To_Home_Base Vector To Home Base
    order Vector_To_Nearest_Base Vector To Nearest Base
    order Vector To Target Vector To Target
    order Vector To Nearest Threat Vector To Nearest Threat
    order Request_For_Assistance Request For Assistance

    order Request_For_Landing Request For Landing
    order Request_Takeoff_Clearing Request Take Off Clearing
    order GroundControl Ground Control
    order Tighten Tighten
    order Loosen Loosen
    order Echelon_Right Echelon Right
    order Echelon_Left Echelon Left
    order Vic Vic
    order Finger_four Finger Four
    order Diamond Diamond
    order Line_Abreast Line Abreast
    order Line_Astern Line Astern
    order Change Change
    order Formation Formation
    order To_Do Action
    order Distance To Fire Distance To Fire
    order Status Status
    order Jump Bail Out
    order Crew Crew
    order Help_Me Help Me
    order Ready For Takeoff Ready For Takeoff
    order Ready For Full Stop Ready For Full Stop

    order Damaged Damaged
    order Wounded Wounded
    order Have No Ammo Have No Ammo
    order Have No Fuel Have No Fuel
    order New Frequency New Frequency
    order Frequency Frequency
    order Group Group
    order Wingman1 Wingman 1
    order Wingman2 Wingman 2
    order Wingman3 Wingman 3
    order Wingman4 Wingman 4
    order Flight1 Flight 1
    order Wing1 Wing 1
    order Wing2 Wing 2
    order Flight2 Flight 2
    rder Wing3 Wing 3
    order Wing4 Wing 4
    order Flight3 Flight 3
    order Wing5 Wing 5
    order Wing6 Wing 6
    order Flight4 Flight 4
    order Wing7 Wing 7
    order Wing8 Wing 8
    order Maintain_Radio_Silence Maintain Radio Silence
    order Cancel_Radio_Silence Cancel Radio Silence
    order Report_Contacts Report Contacts
    order Do_Not_Report_Contacts Do Not Report Contacts
    order Head_On Head On
    order Boom_And_Zoom Boom And Zoom
    order Attack_Type Attack Type
    order Disengage Disengage
    order Proceed_To_Task Proceed To Task
    order Land_Immediately Land Immediately
    order F_Close Close
    order F_Near Near
    order F_Middle Middle
    order F_Far Far
    order Declare_Emergency Declare Emergency
    order Report_On_Station Report On Station
    order Unavailable Unavailable
    order Engaged Engaged
    order Free Free
    order Maintain Silence Maintain Silence
    order Cancel Silence Cancel Silence
    order Hold_Fire Hold Fire
    order Open_Fire Open Fire
    order Report Status Report Status
    order Hand_Over_Control Hand Over Control
    order Landing_Gear_Control Landing Gear Control
    order Flaps_Control Flaps Control
    order Report_Airspeed Report Airspeed
    order Report_Altitude Report Altitude
    order Return_Control Return Control

    order Make_Left Make Left
    order Make_Right Make Right
    order Break_Left Break Left
    order Break_Right Break Right
    order Copy Copy
    order Do_Not_Copy Do Not Copy
    order Roger Roger
    order Unable Unable
    order Ready_For_Takeoff Ready For Takeoff
    order Damaged Damaged
    order Wounded Wounded
    order Have_No_Ammo Have No Ammo
    order Have_No_Fuel Have No Fuel
    order Element Element
    order Spacing Spacing
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    Re: Ground Control Take Off and Circuits

    that....ist just sad

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    Re: Ground Control Take Off and Circuits

    Quote Originally Posted by 1lokos View Post
    I remember this:

    http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.co...ead.php?t=8127

    For these broke messages files you can copy similar one from il-2 1946 - rename with CloD actual name - or even record you own.

    To make you "suffer" a little more, this is the list of CloD radio messages that should work on release - if not "broken" and later cut down.

    If work, you should by able to define - be typing - the new frequency for radio comm, distance for gunners open fire, new altitude for AI flight, type of attack for AI...



    Sokol1
    How would I set up the comms? Is it possible to request vector to home or nearest base?

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    Re: Ground Control Take Off and Circuits

    Quote Originally Posted by 1lokos View Post
    I remember this:

    http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.co...ead.php?t=8127

    For these broke messages files you can copy similar one from il-2 1946 - rename with CloD actual name - or even record you own.

    To make you "suffer" a little more, this is the list of CloD radio messages that should work on release - if not "broken" and later cut down.

    If work, you should by able to define - be typing - the new frequency for radio comm, distance for gunners open fire, new altitude for AI flight, type of attack for AI...



    Sokol1
    Hi Sokol1,

    I am CLOD beginner and need some help.
    You write :"If work, you should by able to define - be typing - ..."
    My beginner question: where I should type the commands? in a settings file? in the console when I am flying? Please explain.

    Another question: In Options/Controls there are "COMM" commands. Can I use these for communication with AI? How does it work to define a command?

    My experience with the Problem wingman does not join Formation after start (Situation I am leader, 1 wingman should join formation):
    -You can begin take off directly without autopilot and waiting for messages.
    -When airborne you can fly straght forward ca. 10 seconds without autopilot.
    -Switch on Autopilot
    -After plane starts to roll left or right you can switch off autopilot and wingman will join formation.

    Best regards
    Kraut1

    (Maybe I will not react immedeately to your answer, I am occupied with some other problems at the Moment)

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