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    Bf109 E3 20mm loadout issue

    Hi all,

    Hoping this is the right area for this but I've noticed that when selecting loadout for the 109 E3 / E3B this confusing list is presented:
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    It appears there's a duplicate of one particular type of ammo. Is this just me or does this affect everyone, and is it fixable?

    Thanks in advance


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    Re: Bf109 E3 20mm loadout issue

    Never noticed this b4 but u are right there are multiple listings of that type of cannon round.
    Don't know if this is a known bug or not. Not really a major issue. U effectively have only the 3 cannon round options. Just looks like more with the duplicate listings.
    Unless of course the other listings are actually different types of cannon rounds just named incorrectly ? In this case I guess u would have to do some testing to see if they are actually different.
    In the E4 loadout there are other cannon rounds listed (other than the minegeschoss) that may well be what was supposed to labelled as such in the E3 but are named incorrectly.
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    Re: Bf109 E3 20mm loadout issue

    We find corrected available ammunition for German 20mm MG FF and MG FF/M to match historical records since

    Team Fusion Version 4.0

    MG FF:
    -Sprenggranate L'spur m.Zerl (134g AP round with small HE payload, with tracer and self destruction)
    -Panzergranate L'spur (134g AP with tracer)
    -Panzergranate (134g AP)


    Following Team Fusion (TF) the change of the “Panzerbrandgranate” with “Panzergranate” is purely a name change as it was a pure AP round even in “vanilla Clod”.
    TF removed the “Panzerbrandgranate (Elektron)” and filled it's place with the “Panzersprenggranate” since there is no reason to keep both the “Phosphor” and “Elektron” variants of this round (The game engine can't model the “Elektron's” historical payload of elektronthermit)

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    Last edited by varrattu; Feb-10-2017 at 15:57.

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    Re: Bf109 E3 20mm loadout issue

    They correctly reduced the loadut options for the MG-FF, although the Panzergranatpatrone (without tracer) is by order supposed to be used only for ground adjustment. Whatever..

    The loadout options for the MG-FFM are way too many btw. Some of these rounds were introduced as late as 43. The Brgr e.g.

    Last edited by rel4y; Feb-10-2017 at 16:59.

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    Re: Bf109 E3 20mm loadout issue

    Thanks for the links guys, wouldn't have found that changelog otherwise. I might do some testing to see if the other options are the same as each other, if I have time later.


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