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    Hi, I am a new owner of Cliffs of dover, and I am experiencing a few problems thats frustrating me a lot!

    First, I'm having trouble assigning keys to commands and getting them to work. For example, I assigned a key to bail out, but it almost never works. Finally I did get it to once, but I haven't been able to repeat it despite changing it to many different keys. Same with jettisoning canopy and a few other things. Sometimes my assignments work fine; it seems random

    Also my brakes seems to not be working properly. many times I'll start my engine and cannot top rolling forward, even though it says brakes are engaged.

    And lately the landscape graphics are having issues, I don't know enough about computers to know what it is, or describe it, so I attached a screenshot.
    Can anyone help me out?
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    Re: Confused and frustrated

    Can you post your computer specs please?

    And post a larger photo, I can't really see the issue from the thumbnail shot.

    As far as the bindings... do you have any conflicting bindings and are they keyboard or joystick? USB connection?

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    Re: Confused and frustrated

    Remember to hit apply when you do assign something but perhaps not all are an assignment problem.

    I assigned a key to bail out, but it almost never works.
    You can't always bail out. If you're going too fast or are injured for instance. Not sure about the canopy.

    many times I'll start my engine and cannot top rolling forward
    What plane? Brakes alone won't stop a SpitIIa, you need to lower prop pitch as well
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    Question Re: Confused and frustrated

    Quote Originally Posted by jg19915 View Post

    Also my brakes seems to not be working properly. many times I'll start my engine and cannot top rolling forward, even though it says brakes are engaged.
    I also have the problem with the brakes. Doesn't matter how much i press down on the assigned key stroke (Space Bar).

    The aircraft still moves and usually sideways.

    Best regards,
    Mike.

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    Re: Confused and frustrated

    Dogbert.....change lower your prop...the aircraft will still creep with full prop and brakes on even with 0% throttle...

    Also check your brakes...bottom left in Spits....The brakes respond to rudder so if you have rudder twisted one direction the brakes will only work on one wheel...Check the dial and watch the 2 pointers go up and down when you add rudder...

    Get on TS too...You'll get lots help and fast there...

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    Re: Confused and frustrated

    Welcome to the community and forums jg19915...~S~

    Checkout the 'Beginners Guide'...for info and tips...It will save you a heap of time in getting up to scratch.....and its a really fun learning curve anyway..

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    TeamSpeak is optional but you'll learn a whole lot faster with it even if you say very little once you are on the server...You are quite welcome to just listen if you feel more comfortable with that....so you don't actually need a mic either...Try it and see!...

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    Re: Confused and frustrated

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Lewis View Post
    Dogbert.....change lower your prop...the aircraft will still creep with full prop and brakes on even with 0% throttle...

    Also check your brakes...bottom left in Spits....The brakes respond to rudder so if you have rudder twisted one direction the brakes will only work on one wheel...Check the dial and watch the 2 pointers go up and down when you add rudder...

    Get on TS too...You'll get lots help and fast there...

    ...Lew...
    Thanks very much Lew, only flying the Rotol 100 Hurri, buddy.

    But i have been putting the prop pitch on 100% before starting the engine.

    Better change my modus operandi then.

    TS is installed but i cannot get the mic to work, sorry.

    Many thanks for the further advice.
    Mike.

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    Re: Confused and frustrated

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogbert View Post
    Thanks very much Lew, only flying the Rotol 100 Hurri, buddy.

    But i have been putting the prop pitch on 100% before starting the engine.

    Better change my modus operandi then.

    TS is installed but i cannot get the mic to work, sorry.

    Many thanks for the further advice.
    Mike.
    You need to have the prop pitch set to 100% to take off... remember that.

    You can lower it while taxing, but when you line up on the runway, and get into position, bring your throttle to zero, brake to a stop, and then the prop pitch back up to 100%.

    Then feet off brakes, add just enough throttle, (30%) to get rolling, make sure you are rolling in a straight line, and then gradually feed in throttle till you are at 100%. You don't need to use Boost Cutout, (110% power) on takeoff.

    Remember, you are steering with your rudder, the brakes just improve the rudder's efficiency in altering direction.

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    Re: Confused and frustrated

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogbert View Post
    I also have the problem with the brakes. Doesn't matter how much i press down on the assigned key stroke (Space Bar).

    The aircraft still moves and usually sideways.

    Best regards,
    Mike.
    You can also assign a key to apply chocks which will stop your aircraft from creeping forwards
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    Re: Confused and frustrated

    Remember too you need to hold the brake key. Otherwise you'll see:

    Brakes100%
    Brakes0%

    As Laser said the easiest way to stop creep is to simply assign a joystick button to apply chocks. This allows you to run up your engine too for shorter takeoffs, provided you can control the engine torque/rudder swing/wind

    It's a challenging game for sure but stick with it. You'll iron out all your little problems quite quickly. Until you start on dogfighting
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    Re: Confused and frustrated

    Quote Originally Posted by RAF74_Buzzsaw View Post
    You need to have the prop pitch set to 100% to take off... remember that.

    You can lower it while taxing, but when you line up on the runway, and get into position, bring your throttle to zero, brake to a stop, and then the prop pitch back up to 100%.

    Then feet off brakes, add just enough throttle, (30%) to get rolling, make sure you are rolling in a straight line, and then gradually feed in throttle till you are at 100%. You don't need to use Boost Cutout, (110% power) on takeoff.

    Remember, you are steering with your rudder, the brakes just improve the rudder's efficiency in altering direction.
    Hi RAF74_Buzzsaw,

    many thanks buddy, i was putting the pitch setting at 100% before starting the engine.

    Oh yes i know i am steering with my rudder. That's why the aircraft does more twirls and 360's on the ground, than in Come Dancing.

    Thanks very much,
    Mike.

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    Re: Confused and frustrated

    Hi Laser & Prophet,

    didn't realise about the chocks, better assign a key. Good info thank you.

    I get brakes 100%, 50% & 0% for some reason whilst holding the button down.

    Must be the 100% pitch setting dragging the aircraft around.

    Challenging !!! SAS selection would be easier .

    Thank you both for replying.

    Best regards,
    Mike.

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    Re: Confused and frustrated

    Quote Originally Posted by jg19915 View Post
    First, I'm having trouble assigning keys to commands and getting them to work. For example, I assigned a key to bail out, but it almost never works.
    Bail out in CLOD is conditioned be:

    1 - You have minimal altitude.
    2 - Your plane are not doing high G maneuvers/spin.
    3 - You need "open" or "jettstion" canopy first.

    For 3 aren't a "universal" way for all planes, some has his peculiarities, in Spitfire you just need "open canopy", in Bf 109 you may don't achieve open canopy due their heaviness and slipstream, so you need "jettision canopy", Hurricane too need jettision and even Fiat G.50 despite this don't have canopy the command will eject their side doors - what maybe is a "It's CloD", but is need do.

    This point 3 show you that some commands work for some planes, but not for another, similar behavior with magneto selection:
    In some planes is toggle switches in other are rotaries switches, so the keys assigned for one don't work for another. But don't bother with this, magneto selection has no practical use in CloD, is just "cosmetic" thing, and for casual "what if" use mouse click instead assign keys.
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    CPU: Intel Core i5 (6th Gen) 6200U / 2.3 GHz
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    Graphics Processor: Intel HD Graphics 520
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    I don't think there are any conflicting bindings, and they're on the keyboard. I may have found the solution to that though thanks to some other replies.

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    Your GPU is probably the reason for the graphic issue. Have you tried lowering all the settings?

    These are the recommend specs for two issues I see, your GPU and Ram:

    NVidia GTX 960 2gb
    8 gb DDR3 RAM

    There are more than a few people around here who play on laptops but those two issues above are problematic.
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    Re: Confused and frustrated

    Ok I lowered my settings and the issue cleared up. I think I also fixed my other problems--many thanks, to everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jg19915 View Post
    Graphics Processor: Intel HD Graphics 520
    This is Intel HD is integrated video chip in Motherboard, no suitable for 3D games, you need a dedicated PCI-E Video Card, preferable NVidea.

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    Re: Confused and frustrated

    Quote Originally Posted by jg19915 View Post
    Hi, I am a new owner of Cliffs of dover, and I am experiencing a few problems thats frustrating me a lot!

    First, I'm having trouble assigning keys to commands and getting them to work. For example, I assigned a key to bail out, but it almost never works. Finally I did get it to once, but I haven't been able to repeat it despite changing it to many different keys. Same with jettisoning canopy and a few other things. Sometimes my assignments work fine; it seems random
    Hi. As I see, nobody mentioned yet, you NEED to switch off the "anthropomorphic control" in the difficulty settings! It is switched off in every online servers too.
    The original idea was to simulate the pilot's "workload" in the cockpit, and this setting allowed to use only two thing in the same time. In practice the PC controllers produce lot of fake signals, which you may not notice at all (for example throttle oscillate between 80-81%), but the program think that you change the throttle constantly - and don't allow to use anything else.

    So switch it off, and your controls problem will be gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VO101_Tom View Post
    Hi. As I see, nobody mentioned yet, you NEED to switch off the "anthropomorphic control" in the difficulty settings! It is switched off in every online servers too.
    The original idea was to simulate the pilot's "workload" in the cockpit, and this setting allowed to use only two thing in the same time. In practice the PC controllers produce lot of fake signals, which you may not notice at all (for example throttle oscillate between 80-81%), but the program think that you change the throttle constantly - and don't allow to use anything else.

    So switch it off, and your controls problem will be gone.
    yeah take every advantage! - little known fact that some pilots in Clod actually do have 8 arms and two heads (one always looking at their six). Some also have unreal women like multitasking capabilities (ATAG_Dave actually knits scarves AND does the Times cryptic crossword whilst flying). No point adding complications when you're going up against these monsters!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boosterdog View Post
    yeah take every advantage! - little known fact that some pilots in Clod actually do have 8 arms and two heads (one always looking at their six). Some also have unreal women like multitasking capabilities (ATAG_Dave actually knits scarves AND does the Times cryptic crossword whilst flying). No point adding complications when you're going up against these monsters!
    Haha, Dave must be a quite skillful pilot then I'd rather not even imagine how can He fly if His both hands occupied, but until nobody enter the room without knocking, and start asking weird questions, the possibilities are endless

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