Smoke stuff

[No601_Swallow]

I've been experimenting with the new and fabulous smoke objects. They're great. Except...

Weird stuff sometimes happens with their "z" coordinate, I think. Here's a screenie of an apocalyptical tryout:

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When I look at the .mis file, this is it:


Stationary] Static0 Smoke.Environment.BigSitySmoke_1 nn 30165.33 16064.00 0.00 /height 6.33
Static1 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireBig nn 30613.33 16170.67 0.00 /height 6.33
Static2 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireSmall nn 30997.33 16960.00 0.00 /height 6.33
Static3 Smoke.Environment.Smoke1 nn 31402.67 17088.00 0.00 /height 6.33
Static4 Smoke.Environment.Smoke2 nn 31189.33 17770.67 0.00 /height 6.33
Static5 Smoke.Environment.Smoke2 nn 31573.33 17877.33 0.00 /height 6.33
Static6 Smoke.Environment.Smoke2 nn 30157.84 17140.31 0.00 /height 143.10
Static7 Smoke.Environment.Smoke2 nn 30253.14 17134.47 0.00 /height 143.10
Static8 Smoke.Environment.Smoke2 nn 30409.52 17134.70 0.00 /height 143.10
Static9 Smoke.Environment.Smoke1 nn 29296.19 17191.73 0.00 /height 246.54
Static10 Smoke.Environment.Smoke1 nn 29399.59 17188.08 0.00 /height 246.54
Static11 Smoke.Environment.Smoke1 nn 29474.08 17190.22 0.00 /height 246.54
Static12 Smoke.Environment.BigSitySmoke_0 nn 28969.27 16978.31 0.00 /height 151.59
Static13 Smoke.Environment.BigSitySmoke_0 nn 29053.27 16965.88 0.00 /height 153.38
Static14 Smoke.Environment.BigSitySmoke_1 nn 29183.11 16959.73 0.00 /height 153.38
Static15 Smoke.Environment.BigSitySmoke_1 nn 30104.39 16934.81 0.00 /height 153.38
Static16 Smoke.Environment.BigSitySmoke_1 nn 30258.88 16909.50 0.00 /height 153.38
Static17 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireSmall nn 30410.72 16902.69 0.00 /height 153.38
Static18 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireSmall nn 28893.42 16647.96 0.00 /height 153.38
Static19 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireSmall nn 28951.82 16658.35 0.00 /height 153.38
Static20 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireSmall nn 29021.46 16619.100 0.00 /height 153.38
Static21 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireSmall nn 29127.22 16615.14 0.00 /height 153.38
Static22 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireSmall nn 29229.16 16626.99 0.00 /height 153.38
Static23 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireBig nn 29317.08 16614.70 0.00 /height 153.38
Static24 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireBig nn 29815.62 16602.38 0.00 /height 153.38
Static25 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireBig nn 29898.32 16604.82 0.00 /height 153.38
Static26 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireBig nn 30014.60 16600.11 0.00 /height 153.38
Static27 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireBig nn 30136.98 16575.47 0.00 /height 153.38
Static28 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireSmall nn 30263.01 16567.01 0.00 /height 153.38
Static29 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireSmall nn 29339.44 16403.73 0.00 /height 153.38
Static30 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireSmall nn 29410.47 16376.30 0.00 /height 153.38
Static31 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireSmall nn 29494.11 16357.80 0.00 /height 153.38
Static32 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireSmall nn 29583.17 16350.75 0.00 /height 153.38
Static33 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireSmall nn 29666.38 16335.04 0.00 /height 153.38
Static34 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireSmall nn 29492.02 16035.96 0.00 /height 153.38
Static35 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireSmall nn 29576.36 16010.01 0.00 /height 153.38
Static36 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireSmall nn 29631.49 15993.79 0.00 /height 153.38
Static37 Smoke.Environment.BuildingFireSmall nn 29722.31 15977.57 0.00 /height 153.38
[Buildings]

Honestly, I don't know. It looks like the "/height..." value never decreases. It just takes whatever the had was before??? Is this a bug or a feature?...

[ATAG_Colander]

try it on a flat part of the terrain.
I think that height is "above the terrain" and not absolute height.

[No601_Swallow]

Indeed. If I change the "Height" value to zero, now that I've tested in the sober light of day, the smoke plumes seem to sit nicely on the ground, whether it's sea level, hillside or whatever. A bit of a bore to have to go editing the .mis file.

It's a strange setting, though. I haven't seen one in a .mis file before. Obviously, it's like the Z offset value, but there's no way to set it in the object browser. Instead, the FMB seems to set it at whatever the previous smoke plume was, if you see what I mean. So, if you put a smoke plume on a mountain, say, any subsequent smoke plumes you place will be at the level of that mountainside, I think.

One for TF 5.00, perhaps.

[Salmo]

..... Obviously, it's like the Z offset value, but there's no way to set it in the object browser. Instead, the FMB seems to set it at whatever the previous smoke plume was, if you see what I mean. So, if you put a smoke plume on a mountain, say, any subsequent smoke plumes you place will be at the level of that mountainside, I think. One for TF 5.00, perhaps.

You likely have the "use previous height" ticked in the FMB pull down object options menu. This means that all future objects are placed at the same height as the starting object. Untick this option & new objects will be placed at ground level.

[Kling]

You likely have the "use previous height" ticked in the FMB pull down object options menu. This means that all future objects are placed at the same height as the starting object. Untick this option & new objects will be placed at ground level.

Oh Salmo if I had only known this when I created some smoke effects a few months ago I would have saved Mattias a lot of PMs and head aches... :(

[SoW Reddog]

Well that's today's "something new" learned... As usual, Salmo to the rescue. :)

[No601_Swallow]

To paraphrase Muttley: zuffa-fuffa-shuffa-blah-ha-maffa...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj3DBcpfMNQ

Ya try soo hard, and then CloD goes and reaches down, gives you an almighty wedgie and pulls your own knickers over your head.

:(

I have never knowingly ticked or unticked that option. I will swear upon my grandmother's cherished grave that I was unaware of that option's existence, and I legally assert that I am not now and never have been a fan of that option. But it's there, looking at me, blowing raspberries in my face.

Grrrr-CloD.

[No601_Swallow]

I've a mind to start a dedicated "Obscure and Mysterious Menu Items in the FMB" thread. After I've found a cat to kick.

I mean, "Fit Objects" sounds like blurb for a "Men's Lifestyle" magazine. Toggle straight spline sounds vaguely like a David Cronnenberg movie featuring murderous cub scouts. Process Roads, anyone? Roads with all the roughage taken out? Sidekick from a Superhero movie?

Back now to my slough of despond...

[ATAG_Septic]

I expect this will be little consolation Swallow old chap, but your report gave me a proper lol!

Thanks.

Septic.