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Throweight
May-21-2014, 19:59
I'm seeking a mentor to walk me through the last little bit of setup, particularly key and axis controls, and to train me in flight. My experience is with 1946 4.12.1 and Jane's FA18.

Time zone, GMT-5
Time of day I am available is flexible.

III./ZG76_Keller
May-21-2014, 21:13
Hey Throweight, what plane do you fly?

RAF74_Buzzsaw
May-21-2014, 21:24
Recommend you go online on the ATAG teamspeak... often you can find people who will talk you through problems. :salute:

Throweight
May-21-2014, 21:42
Hey Throweight, what plane do you fly?

I'm as comfortable with any as I am the rest, and have been in the pit of most, but have not defined a preference.

Throweight
May-21-2014, 21:43
Recommend you go online on the ATAG teamspeak... often you can find people who will talk you through problems. :salute:

Affirmative.

ATAG_Lewis
May-21-2014, 23:56
You have been through the Key dedication part of the Beginners Guide?

Throweight
May-22-2014, 18:00
You have been through the Key dedication part of the Beginners Guide?

Thanks so much for your responses.

Yes. Several keys and axes had been mapped and I had flown several quick missions.

A problem has come up. There is apparently a cursor bug in windows 8.1 that affected my new machine. Asus tech support had me perform a restore, causing the sim to uninstall, despite that the game files are still on my hard drive with the exception of the windows 8.1 patch for CLOD, which I have tried but failed to reinstall. The sim was working fine before this happened. Will I have to work through Steam to get it properly reinstalled?

Throweight
May-28-2014, 15:29
The sim is properly installed. I have decided to start with the BF110.

RAF74_Buzzsaw
May-28-2014, 18:01
The sim is properly installed. I have decided to start with the BF110.

Glad to hear you are up and running.

Be aware the Bf-110 is a real challenge to fly successfully as a fighter... it cannot compete in an extended maneuver fight with single engined types. This was the case historically and it is the same in the game.

Best if you can to fly in the company of another 110 pilot or with 109's.

Practice careful use of altitude and make your attacks quickly, don't linger in the combat area and you should see reasonable success. :salute:

III./ZG76_Keller
May-28-2014, 19:20
The sim is properly installed. I have decided to start with the BF110.


Music to my ears my friend, I'd love another 110 to wing up with! If you see me on TeamSpeak send me a PM.

Throweight
May-28-2014, 19:52
Music to my ears my friend, I'd love another 110 to wing up with! If you see me on TeamSpeak send me a PM.

Gotcha. I've heard you are the just the guy to help me out. Will be watching out for you.

ATAG_Ezzie
May-29-2014, 03:31
Hi Throweight,

I'm a fellow 110 flyer but I'm only 6 weeks further down the road than you are so wouldnt dare to offer myself up as a mentor - there's plenty more qualified to do that such as Keller who you've made contact with. But you might find some of the following useful, or you might not (apologies if you have already been down this path)

re flying the aircraft - i found these links a very useful place to start

http://www.theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/wiki/doku.php?id=bf110c

http://www.raafsquad.com/cliffs/bf110/bf110Training.pdf

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9007

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/me110/AM_Flying_Instructions_Me110.pdf

The things to practice/understand beyond the obvious (take-offs, landings etc) re flying the aircraft

(a) How to keep your engine rpm and ata in the right areas to avoid over-stressing your engine. This may seem easy when flying straight and level but when in combat its a hard thing to try and keep under control. Early on i would blow an engine most sorties during an engagement and even now have to concentrate to make sure i keep the engines under control.

(b) How to successfully shut down an engine and maintain height and even climb slowly on only a single engine and how to do a single engine landing.

(c) How to dive your aircraft to 600 - 650 km/hr. Vne is somewhere not too far beyond 650 and its very easy in a dive to exceed this speed.

(d) How to manage your fuel tanks if you plan to do longer sorties - I often fly for ~ 2+hrs (when i dont get shot down that is) and you will need to be able to transfer fuel from rear to front tanks if you intend to fly longer sorties

(e) How to set up your magnetic and gyro compasses

(f) Figure out what the minimum altitude to successfully bale out is


re fighting the aircraft. You need to think about how you intend to fly the 110 in combat, as in my experience its not an aircraft you kick the tyres, light the fires and join in the first furball you come across. I found this report useful re thinking about strengths and weaknesses and you might as well

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/me110/Me-110_Tactical_Trials.pdf

Work out a game plan you like and that suits your personality/temperament and see how it goes and then refine as required.

One of my most satisfying things to do is to sneak up on escorted Blennies, do a high speed dive usually from the rear unnoticed (aiming the 110 when flying at 550+ km/hr is also a skill to practice) and get a guns-pass in on the Blennies before running way and resetting. I've managed to be successful a few times doing this and its a buzz. Been hunted down like a stray dog by the escort afterwards plenty of times as well but if i stick to my game plan of only one pass and have a think about the direction i attack from and where i will run away to i am reducing these instances somewhat.

You should also understand what your gunner can/cant do for you - for instance he's good for letting you know there's someone on your tail but only when reasonably close and you can spot them from much farther away than him so keep checking your six. And he's not the best aimer but the sound of his guns is a good cue that someone is behind you and very close. And he will stop bullets from hitting you as well sometimes by getting in the way.....

Hope this helps? As Buzz says its takes a lot of skill to fight the 110 successfully and if your experience is like mine then there will be plenty of times when you will be a smouldering hole in the ground and you will be frustrated at your lack of success. But stick with it and if you think about what you are doing and practice and practice then you will start to have a more positive experience. I have slightly more kills than deaths and that is one way that I'm measuring my progress.

In some ways flying a 110 is like being a bottom feeding shark on a reef mostly populated by bigger badder sharks. You cruise around looking for 'easy' kills (in reality these are extremely rare in my experience - beware a turning Blenny for instance) but then every so often you will see a chance to take on one of the alpha-sharks when you have everything in your favour and that is a good buzz when it works out for you. I've downed a couple of Spit Mk11as out of pure luck and being in the right spot at the right time but i still found it very satisfying.

Hope to see you out n about and I'm on TS (but in Oz so times might not work out for you) if you want to chat some more.

Ezzie

III./ZG76_Keller
May-29-2014, 06:23
Wow, great post Ezzie!

ATAG_Ezzie
May-29-2014, 08:15
Wow, great post Ezzie!

Thanks Keller. I didn't start out to write as much as I did but I got on a roll.

Just finished a ~2hr session on the server and had another smouldering hole in the ground ending <sigh>.

Ezzie

LBR=H.Ostermann
May-29-2014, 11:36
Wow, great post Ezzie!

+1

Really Great post, Ezzie!


Be welcome Throweight, ATAG_Keller is the best guy to help you.

What if we bf110 pilots make a Schwarm some day?

Throweight
May-29-2014, 17:47
Wowee! Thanks Ezzie et al. Please don't apologize. I appreciate your help and enthusiasm. Umm. I'll have to bail out?!

Thanks Keller for the help with key mapping and the squared away commentary. I'll continue to work with all of these resources.