No601_Swallow
Sep-08-2014, 09:01
Here's a question about mission objects.
A squadron mate said, after a mission yesterday, that he'd seen ships in the middle of the French countryside. Now, I am sure I placed no ships in the mission. Attach electrodes to my gonads and the answer will be the same. I placed no ships.
Sooooo... just to prove him wrong I opened up the .mis file in a text editor and searched the text for ships. I found 14 ships listed. Astonished (but only mildly - this is, after all, CloD), I loaded the mission up in the FMB and scrutinised the map. Nada. Then I thought about the "Mission Objects" window, which I don't usually have much use for, and sure enough the ships were in the list there. Also there were about 20 flak guns, when I know I only placed six.
Double-clicking on my six flak guns as listed in the mission objects window centres the map on those guns. It's actually a really useful way of checking out the mission. Double-clicking on the others just centres the map on empty fields. Different empty fields for each gun, almost as if the FMB is finding phantom flak guns. Similarly, the ships seem to be phantoms too. These objects all have coordinates and rotations in the .mis file, but I can't see them on the map and I didn't place them.
Any ideas? (I do have trouble with "pasting objects from list" since I often save objects which are still grouped with unwanted objects elsewhere on the map. Grrr. Up to and including entire airfields. But while this might explain why the ships got in there without me knowing - I pasted them in together with other sets of objects, why would they be invisible to me, and most others - and yet glimpsed, like a CLoD Marie Celeste, by one or two players?)
Is this just a Grrrr-Clod thing, is there a TF magic bullet to solve all of our problems, or am I finally going nuts?
And is the Mission Objects window really cool and unappreciated, or broken and not worth the time?
A squadron mate said, after a mission yesterday, that he'd seen ships in the middle of the French countryside. Now, I am sure I placed no ships in the mission. Attach electrodes to my gonads and the answer will be the same. I placed no ships.
Sooooo... just to prove him wrong I opened up the .mis file in a text editor and searched the text for ships. I found 14 ships listed. Astonished (but only mildly - this is, after all, CloD), I loaded the mission up in the FMB and scrutinised the map. Nada. Then I thought about the "Mission Objects" window, which I don't usually have much use for, and sure enough the ships were in the list there. Also there were about 20 flak guns, when I know I only placed six.
Double-clicking on my six flak guns as listed in the mission objects window centres the map on those guns. It's actually a really useful way of checking out the mission. Double-clicking on the others just centres the map on empty fields. Different empty fields for each gun, almost as if the FMB is finding phantom flak guns. Similarly, the ships seem to be phantoms too. These objects all have coordinates and rotations in the .mis file, but I can't see them on the map and I didn't place them.
Any ideas? (I do have trouble with "pasting objects from list" since I often save objects which are still grouped with unwanted objects elsewhere on the map. Grrr. Up to and including entire airfields. But while this might explain why the ships got in there without me knowing - I pasted them in together with other sets of objects, why would they be invisible to me, and most others - and yet glimpsed, like a CLoD Marie Celeste, by one or two players?)
Is this just a Grrrr-Clod thing, is there a TF magic bullet to solve all of our problems, or am I finally going nuts?
And is the Mission Objects window really cool and unappreciated, or broken and not worth the time?