Ground Control Take Off and Circuits

[mutleyxxx]

Hi all,
quick question as a newbie..

I've read a few threads on Ground control clearance for Landing and Taking off.. i.e. it doesn't work unless AI is turned on - is that correct?..
Post mission I can never get clearance to land even though I believe I have correctly joined the correct left hand circuit for landing.

There are a couple of threads where it mentions this doesn't work unless you have AI turned on.. however I've mapped a key and tried a joystick button to the toggle AI.. but it just seems to turn it on and immediately turn it off..

Does clearances work at all or should I just ignore that area?
Thanks
Mutleyxxx

[ATAG_Snapper]

Hi Mutley and welcome to the forum! :salute:

I hope you don't mind me moving your thread to the Single Players Lounge. I saw you were getting no responses up in the ATAG Flight School section, probably because that area is geared towards multiplayer training (although there is nothing to indicate that to a newcomer).

Hopefully our vast and knowledgeable cadre of single players will see your query here and provide you the information you need.

In the meantime.....grab a cheap headset with mic, install Teamspeak 3, and join us on The Dark Side online in the ATAG Server! :devilish:

Cheers!

Snapper

[mutleyxxx]

Thanks
believe I've found the solution.. basically the request clearance and landing doesn't working manually.. seems I have to switch AI on - then clearance is given and I switch it off and take off or land from there..
Mutleyxxx

[bolox]

Switching auto pilot on briefly is the simplest solution.

If you are the lead plane of a group it is sometimes/often better to leave it on until after takeoff- when flaps come up is a good point (you will often see a little 'kick' in the plane as it leaves 'takeoff mode' )- then the other planes will follow you and respond to radio commands (as well as CoD's AI allows).

There is another way to do this (1lokos may want to comment on this).

The reason you don't get takeoff/landing messages is apparently due to the message file size (too small:stunned:) which means it is not played bey the game engine (again 1lokos may have more to add).

Landing - autopilot briefly should work if you are within the airfields radius of 'influence'.

One thing to remember is that in CoD planes land in 'reverse order- the last plane in group lands fist and the leader lands last

[1lokos]

I remember this:

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8127

For these broke messages files you can copy similar one from il-2 1946 - rename with CloD actual name - or even record you own.

To make you "suffer" a little more, :devilish: this is the list of CloD radio messages that should work on release - if not "broken" and later cut down.

If work, you should by able to define - be typing - the new frequency for radio comm, distance for gunners open fire, new altitude for AI flight, type of attack for AI... :(


order----------------------------------"Radio message"
order Target_From_Task Target From Task
order All All
order Fighters Fighters
order Bombers Bombers
order My_Target_Type My Target Type (by viewport)
order My_Target My Target (by viewport)
order Back Back
order Attack Attack
order Cover Cover
order Air_Targets Air Targets
order Tanks Tanks
order Flak Flak
order Vehicles Vehicles
order Train Train
order Bridge Bridge
order Ships Ships
order Ground_Targets Ground Targets
order Drop_Tanks Drop Tanks
order Drop_Bombs Drop Bombs
order Rejoin Rejoin
order Go_To_Start Go To First Waypoint
order Takeoff Take Off
order Return_To_Base Return To Base
order Hang_On Hang On
order Add Point Add Point
order Next_Point Next Point
order Previous_Point Previous Point
order Order_Height Altitude
order Navigation Navigation
order Vector_To_Home_Base Vector To Home Base
order Vector_To_Nearest_Base Vector To Nearest Base
order Vector To Target Vector To Target
order Vector To Nearest Threat Vector To Nearest Threat
order Request_For_Assistance Request For Assistance
order Request_For_Landing Request For Landing
order Request_Takeoff_Clearing Request Take Off Clearing
order GroundControl Ground Control
order Tighten Tighten
order Loosen Loosen
order Echelon_Right Echelon Right
order Echelon_Left Echelon Left
order Vic Vic
order Finger_four Finger Four
order Diamond Diamond
order Line_Abreast Line Abreast
order Line_Astern Line Astern
order Change Change
order Formation Formation
order To_Do Action
order Distance To Fire Distance To Fire
order Status Status
order Jump Bail Out
order Crew Crew
order Help_Me Help Me
order Ready For Takeoff Ready For Takeoff
order Ready For Full Stop Ready For Full Stop
order Damaged Damaged
order Wounded Wounded
order Have No Ammo Have No Ammo
order Have No Fuel Have No Fuel
order New Frequency New Frequency
order Frequency Frequency
order Group Group
order Wingman1 Wingman 1
order Wingman2 Wingman 2
order Wingman3 Wingman 3
order Wingman4 Wingman 4
order Flight1 Flight 1
order Wing1 Wing 1
order Wing2 Wing 2
order Flight2 Flight 2
rder Wing3 Wing 3
order Wing4 Wing 4
order Flight3 Flight 3
order Wing5 Wing 5
order Wing6 Wing 6
order Flight4 Flight 4
order Wing7 Wing 7
order Wing8 Wing 8
order Maintain_Radio_Silence Maintain Radio Silence
order Cancel_Radio_Silence Cancel Radio Silence
order Report_Contacts Report Contacts
order Do_Not_Report_Contacts Do Not Report Contacts
order Head_On Head On
order Boom_And_Zoom Boom And Zoom
order Attack_Type Attack Type
order Disengage Disengage
order Proceed_To_Task Proceed To Task
order Land_Immediately Land Immediately
order F_Close Close
order F_Near Near
order F_Middle Middle
order F_Far Far
order Declare_Emergency Declare Emergency
order Report_On_Station Report On Station
order Unavailable Unavailable
order Engaged Engaged
order Free Free
order Maintain Silence Maintain Silence
order Cancel Silence Cancel Silence
order Hold_Fire Hold Fire
order Open_Fire Open Fire
order Report Status Report Status
order Hand_Over_Control Hand Over Control
order Landing_Gear_Control Landing Gear Control
order Flaps_Control Flaps Control
order Report_Airspeed Report Airspeed
order Report_Altitude Report Altitude
order Return_Control Return Control
order Make_Left Make Left
order Make_Right Make Right
order Break_Left Break Left
order Break_Right Break Right
order Copy Copy
order Do_Not_Copy Do Not Copy
order Roger Roger
order Unable Unable
order Ready_For_Takeoff Ready For Takeoff
order Damaged Damaged
order Wounded Wounded
order Have_No_Ammo Have No Ammo
order Have_No_Fuel Have No Fuel
order Element Element
order Spacing Spacing

Sokol1

[Bewolf]

that....ist just sad :alcohol:

[Donathin]

I remember this:

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8127

For these broke messages files you can copy similar one from il-2 1946 - rename with CloD actual name - or even record you own.

To make you "suffer" a little more, :devilish: this is the list of CloD radio messages that should work on release - if not "broken" and later cut down.

If work, you should by able to define - be typing - the new frequency for radio comm, distance for gunners open fire, new altitude for AI flight, type of attack for AI... :(



Sokol1

How would I set up the comms? Is it possible to request vector to home or nearest base?

[kraut1]

I remember this:

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8127

For these broke messages files you can copy similar one from il-2 1946 - rename with CloD actual name - or even record you own.

To make you "suffer" a little more, :devilish: this is the list of CloD radio messages that should work on release - if not "broken" and later cut down.

If work, you should by able to define - be typing - the new frequency for radio comm, distance for gunners open fire, new altitude for AI flight, type of attack for AI... :(



Sokol1

Hi Sokol1,

I am CLOD beginner and need some help.
You write :"If work, you should by able to define - be typing - ..."
My beginner question: where I should type the commands? in a settings file? in the console when I am flying? Please explain.

Another question: In Options/Controls there are "COMM" commands. Can I use these for communication with AI? How does it work to define a command?

My experience with the Problem wingman does not join Formation after start (Situation I am leader, 1 wingman should join formation):
-You can begin take off directly without autopilot and waiting for messages.
-When airborne you can fly straght forward ca. 10 seconds without autopilot.
-Switch on Autopilot
-After plane starts to roll left or right you can switch off autopilot and wingman will join formation.

Best regards
Kraut1

(Maybe I will not react immedeately to your answer, I am occupied with some other problems at the Moment)