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Mysticpuma
Oct-29-2014, 10:07
12th post down.

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/11817-graphic-options-poll/

hnbdgr
Oct-29-2014, 10:41
I've cast my vote for advanced custom settings. But if I'm not mistaken this is done by a founder not a dev.

Foul Ole Ron
Oct-29-2014, 11:09
Yeah just a founder poll. Devs are stuck in their not a foot back, there's no land on the other side of the Volga mode so not sure they're ready to abandon presets just yet.

I think if the devs at least gave people the option to turn off SSAO that would reduce a lot of the ire. SSAO in BOS is very poorly implemented and just results in a grainy sort of film on the screen. Even though most people can run BOS at ultra settings it's probably best to run BOS at the balanced preset. It has the same visibility range as ultra but SSAO is greatly reduced which makes everything in the game look a bit sharper in general which makes BOS probably the first game in history to actually look better at lower graphic settings.

LBR=H.Ostermann
Oct-29-2014, 12:03
S!



weptalo:
Have you purchased a flight sim or a graphical settings trainer? I believe it's a sim, and presets only save you loads of time so you don't have to dance around the options menu. There's a certain way that we want the game to look like, and we put it into presets.


I love this kind of aswer.:(

SorcererDave
Oct-29-2014, 12:07
S!





I love this kind of aswer.:(

Christ that's the most idiotic excuse for not having proper graphics options I've ever seen in my life. How stupid do they think people actually are?

hnbdgr
Oct-29-2014, 12:10
Aha I've only now realized what you meant MP, 12th post down is:




NobbyNobbs

Founder

Posts: 1
Posted 27 October 2014 - 20:09

Salute from Soviet Russia!

Today one of our pilots (Myxxamop) find the way to use custom settings for graphics.
For that download this archive (https://yadi.sk/d/b32feMgUcKvWS) and extract files to ../IL-2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad\data directory.
After that drag and drop file Scripts.cfg on unGTP.exe, wait few seconds and go to new folder ../IL-2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad\data\(null)\luascripts
Open gpresets.cfg with notepad.exe and change options (i hope you know how). Save changes and copy this file to ../IL-2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad\data\LuaScripts
Enjoy...

Excuse my english, please.

Oh... I'm forgot. Probably tomorrow devs close this backdoor :-(
They said so.

I've embeded his link in the quote, also here: https://yadi.sk/d/b32feMgUcKvWS

I haven't tried it yet, will do in the evening. So should we expect an emergency update soon ? :)

Mysticpuma
Oct-29-2014, 12:32
Oh yes, sorry, I thought people would click on the link and go to the 12th post down, thus finding a way to get back to the pre-release settings which allowed people to use triple-head screens with no problems (and anything else they wanted!).

So thanks for posting, hope it helps some :)

Cheers, MP

hnbdgr
Oct-29-2014, 12:43
No problem MP!

Ok There is an ~ 80MB update today, I've cancelled it as soon as I spotted It i wonder if it's designed to break the functionality of the workaround...? Just being curious here. Also heads up to whoever wants to try it.

Mysticpuma
Oct-29-2014, 13:59
But does that mean if you don't load it you cant play BoS? I ask because during Early Access, if you didn't have the correct version you couldn't launch the game (as it is verified by their server that you are running the correct version?).

Just wondering if that's still the case as I haven't even played it since I put a video up showing the 109 taking off when it was released ;(

I just don't have any love for it at the moment :(

Mastiff
Oct-29-2014, 14:41
in the Startup.cnf in line #26 Gama set it to .50000

also in Graphics set it to high instead of ULTRA, ULTRA just turns on SSAO.

then just adjust your monitor settings to make it right.

1lokos
Oct-29-2014, 16:56
SSAO off

http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-109-0-80534600-1414435593.png
http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-109-0-51213700-1414437796.png
http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-109-0-63183000-1414435584.png
http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-109-0-69511700-1414437788.png
http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-109-0-98506700-1414437781.png
SSAO off + Contrast

http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-978-0-15810900-1414438253.jpg

Foul Ole Ron
Oct-29-2014, 17:12
The game looks so much better with some simple graphical tweaking. I can't believe that numpty Loft and some of the decisions he's made which are really kicking this game in the nuts. I mean did he not look at the game and how it looks with SSAO turned off and realise how much sharper and better it looked and say let's go with the options that make the game look as good as possible? Mind boggling stupidity he's shown between this and the unlocks fiasco. He might be a good producer but somebody needs to step up and set him right on a few things about how to run a business.

PFT_Endy
Oct-29-2014, 17:23
He might be a good producer but somebody needs to step up and set him right on a few things about how to run a business.

Who? Jason? :)

1lokos
Oct-29-2014, 17:24
Loft advise: "I believe that you need to learn to fly a plane in the game about planes and not to engage in the config dripping, for experimenting with 3D graphics have Max or Photoshop." :D

Black034
Oct-29-2014, 18:11
So what if you're a sim-fan who doesn't have heaps of dosh to buy a state of the art uber-1337 gaming pc?
You just have to stumble across a hack some dude made and install that? WTF why not add it in the first place?
Simple GUI and scripting work to add options like bloom, HDR, texture resolution, effect quality etc.

Dumb and foolish choice imo, look at how many people are rigging ghetto headtracking devices or messing with configs JUST to get a glimpse of this wonderful hobby!
You're missing cash AND new members for an already small community.

An argument that pops up recently is; people might take advantage of the game.. pfff sounds more like "this engine has shitty optimization and we didn't have time/money to fix it sorry".

Seriously, I can't even comprehend some of the development choices behind this game.
Don't get me wrong, it looks and plays nice (really nice graphics!) but.. it's just these little things that mess it up for me personally.
I like to play with models/textures set to highest and things like bloom/special fx on low so I can be 100% sure I keep my frames optimal during high player-count games without the game looking like a potato.

Eghh, I'll try follow the future development and hope they make changes with patches.

:doh:

Jaws
Oct-29-2014, 19:03
Hey guess what else I dug out with that little tool?...

Can't upload anything in the game, but at least I get to know the template layout .

:D

http://s25.postimg.org/g39q9m35r/xdfg_ASEFWAEf.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/65ypgjvjv/full/)
photo uploading (http://postimage.org/)

Foul Ole Ron
Oct-29-2014, 19:07
All the plane data is in the AI folder as well. Not sure if that's the same data that applies to our planes but AI is supposed to fly the same FM as us so maybe it is.

Edit: has this backdoor been closed in the last update? I can't get the gppresets.cfg file to make any difference when dropped into the luascripts folder. Maybe I'm not turning off the right stuff in the file though - any pointers would be appreciated.

Mysticpuma
Oct-29-2014, 20:28
Yup, no longer possible....everyone who did it has now had their options set back to the presets.....that'll teach you for having the audacity to see the game how you choose to ;)

PFT_Endy
Oct-30-2014, 03:14
I can't understand why they can't have both presets for players who want an easy setup AND advanced graphics options for someone who want to customize a bit...That's how most games do it except for some straight console ports.

Foul Ole Ron
Oct-30-2014, 05:31
It's all Loft. He's decided how he wants "his" game to be viewed by everybody and that means SSAO, bloom and HDR bumped up despite the fact that they're very badly implemented and just make the game look worse. Such a blinkered badly thought out decision just like the unlocks fiasco.

I know you were taking the piss earlier Endy but there's no way Jason would have made these decisions. He's clearly got a far better business head than Loft. Don't want to get into national stereotypes too much but I will anyway as there's often more than a grain of truth to them! I deal with quite a lot of eastern European developers in work and the managers are all a bit like Loft. Good guys for the most part with some solid knowledge but can get really stubborn and entrenched with their positions to the point of being irrational. Can be really wearisome at times to deal with. I think Loft really needs a guiding hand for the Western market which Jason is trying to do but if Loft has the final say on some stuff and can just ignore common sense then something needs to change with how they run things for their own good in the long run.

SorcererDave
Oct-30-2014, 05:44
I'm not sure everyone here knows what SSAO is. They seem to have it confused with motion blur or depth of field.

PFT_Endy
Oct-30-2014, 05:49
Ok, so who exactly has the final say in 777? I thought Jason was the main owner with Loft being second in command? Or did I get that wrong? One way or another, they both seem to be very unwilling to listen to the community despite polls, heated discussions on BOS forum etc. trying to sway them the other way. Anyway, I really don't believe Jason would have changed anything seing his attitude towards towards anyone who disagrees with his vision be it a person he cooperates with or a customer.

Foul Ole Ron
Oct-30-2014, 06:15
It sounds like it's Loft who has the final decision on stuff. Jason clearly didn't want the unlocks to go into the game and knew this would cause an almighty shit storm but they plowed on ahead with them anyway and sure enough an almighty shit storm erupted. Not saying he's without his faults but he's the commercial manager as far as I know and these sort of commercial decisions that can really affect how a game is viewed in the marketplace are probably best left to him rather than Loft who should stick to running the development of the game.

hnbdgr
Oct-30-2014, 06:42
I'm not sure everyone here knows what SSAO is. They seem to have it confused with motion blur or depth of field.

For what it's worth people on the bos official forum are saying it looks better with all of post processing turned off. Basically they want a LOW preset with high visibility :)