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401Cdn. Beagle
Dec-26-2014, 05:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8LVlYJ5eJU

You can just feel the anger.

Black034
Dec-27-2014, 09:24
Hardly something you should label with "enjoy" but yeah..

Desperate times.

Can't even imagine the feelings both Allied and Axis pilots went through.

ATAG_Lewis
Dec-27-2014, 13:12
Interesting...We all know it went on...even when pilots denied it...it happened

Thanks for sharing Beagle...good spot!

401Cdn. Beagle
Dec-27-2014, 13:23
Enjoy! Was intended to appreciate the seldom story of a WWII pilot telling his tale, which is, of course horrific. I believe a Gentlemans agreement was in force here and for one unfortunate German pilot, by breaking this agreement, his life ended in the same horrific manner. So yeah. Enjoy!

TWC_SLAG
Dec-27-2014, 13:52
I'm confused. Clarence "Bud" Anderson relates exactly the same story, except he was the one doing the shooting. Maybe it's just them getting old, and confused.

I take my hat off to them both, and all the other pilots who knew the odds and went up everyday, anyway.

badfinger

401Cdn. Beagle
Dec-28-2014, 02:04
Spot on! I had a check and found this old gem:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk6leptzqlU

Buds most important statement, in my opinion comes at 1:39

Thanks for the heads up badfinger!

ashikaga
Dec-28-2014, 08:24
Sometimes though, things went a little different, like in the case of Franz Stigler and Charlie Brown :


http://youtu.be/_8EkmyoG83Q

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_incident

401Cdn. Beagle
Dec-28-2014, 13:42
Now that was a real cool story. Thanks ashikaga!

SorcererDave
Dec-28-2014, 14:59
I remember reading George Beurling's wartime memoirs in which he talks about an incident where a 109 pilot bailed out and was shot in his chute by his wingmen because they thought he was a British pilot. It made him almost physically sick to watch.

Otyg
Dec-29-2014, 17:34
I read about a German pilot who bailed and while hanging there in his chute the p-51 came screaming down and started to do a slowly shrinking orbit around him. He was sure he was going to get shot. and then the p-51 pilot did thumbs up and snapped a picture of him with a camera... i have no clue if its true or not.
Tried to find it on the net again. could been Wikipedia.. but i could not, but i found this... its about bailing... but he bailed with a unstrapped chute...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2607895/Incredible-story-Lancaster-pilot-bailed-Germany-life-saved-searchlight-helped-parachute-wasnt-strapped-on.html

401Cdn. Beagle
Dec-30-2014, 15:26
Excellent read ATAG_Otyg. Thanks for the link.

That must have been horrifiying. I also recall the story you have quoted however, can't find anything on the net.

spartan18a
Dec-30-2014, 16:01
Sometimes though, things went a little different, like in the case of Franz Stigler and Charlie Brown :


http://youtu.be/_8EkmyoG83Q

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_incident
There is another case of a P47 and a German who let it go limping back to England.

Does anyone know any other case in any side? I just know these two cases.

ATAG_Flare
Dec-30-2014, 20:42
There is another case of a P47 and a German who let it go limping back to England.

Does anyone know any other case in any side? I just know these two cases.
Was that Robert s Johnson? In his case I believe the 190 ran out of ammunition after expending all of his remaining 7.9mm bullets (he'd already used the cannon) into the Jug but it just didn't go down! Eventually he landed back at Manston, but the plane was a write off. There were about 25 cannon shells in the plane and Johnson said that while counting the small calibre holes he got to 100 before he had to look in a different area!

The P47 was sure tough.

Flare

ATAG_Deacon
Dec-30-2014, 21:42
Mystic Puma made a phenomenal film about the Robert Johnson incident:

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/alop0e/il2-sturmovik-46-not-my-time-to-die

About 30 minutes long and worth every second. There may be a better site to watch
it, I just did a quick google search.

ATAG_Flare
Dec-30-2014, 22:55
Yes, I've seen this one before. Quite good! Robert S. Johnson also has an autobiography called "Thunderbolt!" and it is a very good read.

Flare

spartan18a
Dec-31-2014, 03:46
Yep that was the one. Any other case?

IIJG27Rich
Jan-12-2015, 21:04
I remember reading George Beurling's wartime memoirs in which he talks about an incident where a 109 pilot bailed out and was shot in his chute by his wingmen because they thought he was a British pilot. It made him almost physically sick to watch.

Look up a guy named Clive "Killer" Caldwell.

1lokos
Jan-12-2015, 22:44
OWen J. Baggett - B-24 pilot, supposedly shot with his M1911 pistol at strafing Zero pilot while descending in parachute.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_J._Baggett
http://www.sdheroes.com/?p=2600
http://oldschoolguns.blogspot.com.br/2011/09/model-1911-and-1911a1-pistols-have.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_parachutists

SorcererDave
Jan-12-2015, 22:55
Look up a guy named Clive "Killer" Caldwell.

I know all about Clive Caldwell. If you're trying to make some sort of point that "the allies did it too!" I'm fully aware both sides did it. Doesn't stop the guys who did it from being cunts though.

RAF74_Buzzsaw
Jan-13-2015, 00:32
Look up a guy named Clive "Killer" Caldwell.

There are examples from all sides.

Otto Schulz was a pilot with JG27 in the Desert, who ranked second only to Hans Joachim Marseille at one point in the scoring race there. (44 victories to 48)

He ended up with 50 victories before being shot down and killed.

He was an ardent Nazi and had a reputation for shooting enemy pilots in their chutes as well as strafing crash landed enemy pilots and planes... that was how he died... too focused on strafing his 50th kill to notice another Allied pilot coming in as he zoomed after the strafing run.

9./JG52 Reinhart
Jan-14-2015, 01:42
There are examples from all sides.

Otto Schulz was a pilot with JG27 in the Desert, who ranked second only to Hans Joachim Marseille at one point in the scoring race there. (44 victories to 48)

He ended up with 50 victories before being shot down and killed.

He was an ardent Nazi and had a reputation for shooting enemy pilots in their chutes as well as strafing crash landed enemy pilots and planes... that was how he died... too focused on strafing his 50th kill to notice another Allied pilot coming in as he zoomed after the strafing run.

Even though this was short, it was a good read.
Great example of why if you REALLY go out looking for blood, you will find it.