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Broodwich
May-12-2012, 22:27
Hey guys, I'm new (look at me!!) and wondering about that italian stallion, the G50.

I have no idea how to get it to work, and for the life of me cannot get the stupid thing to use the WEP they said went into it this latest patch. Not only that, I can get it nowhere near the RPM setting it is supposed to have to develop full power for the engine, even in a dive with full fine pitch. It takes roughly 10 minutes to warm up because faster than that and the thing bucks everywhere like a spit that hasnt been warmed. My few flights since the patch have consisted of climbing at about 6m/s over the coast, and then having the engine start to die about the time i reach 2k

Any help would be more than welcome!

ATAG_Snapper
May-13-2012, 08:50
Hi Broodwich, and welcome to the Forum!

Regrettably I have no stick time with the G50, but it has given me a few nasty surprises when flying my Spitfire online! Hopefully one of our resident G50 experten-specialists :Grin: can jump in here with some helpful tips.

Snapper

ATAG_Colander
May-13-2012, 10:16
From the little time I have on it...
1.- Warm up with both rads closed. Open them for take off. Oil Rad to 50%
2.- Fly with full throttle all the time. Adjust prop pitch only
3.- After diving with rads open, your engine will over cool. Bring the prop pitch up so it re-warms fast.

I've reached around 380 Kph on level flight like this.
Now all I need to learn is the proper lead for deflection shooting with those 50 cals!!!!

MajorBorris
May-14-2012, 12:52
:welcome!:Broodwich,

Great question for a sexy bird:thumbsup:

ATAG_Septic
May-14-2012, 13:01
Hi Broodwich and welcome to the forum.

Thanks for your post, along with Colander's advice it's prompted me to have a go in the g50 again. I almost convinced myself it could be viable in my hands :-)

Cheers,

Septic.

Broodwich
May-14-2012, 15:38
Thanks guys, I've given it some more flying time and found out some more!

-Like colander said dont open the oil rads all the way, in fact i leave them more closed than open most of the time. Since I dont know the correct parameters for temperature (wankers only gave the pretty boys in spits and 109s usable data) I just try to keep it around 60 degrees, below 50 will kill your engine. There is a very real danger in diving without full prop pitch as it will ice your engine in a heartbeat

-Once you climb to about 2k, you will need to lean out the mixture from full a bit. Basically when the plane starts bucking, back it off till it stops :P You will have to adjust it a bit more at higher altitudes, and keep the throttle not very far from full up there. Every time I pull back on it it starts bucking everywhere and no amount of jiggering the mixture calms it down.

-I found the WEP, sort of. Its the "Boost cut out" thing, and you have to turn it to ON, then you can push the throttle all the way forward and it gives you some more manifold pressure. Actually it gives you the amount it should have for normal operation as WEP, with the actual WEP still not implemented (go figure)

Blackdog_kt
May-16-2012, 21:29
The mixture is full manual, so it's different to what, for example, a Spit has with its semi-automatic system.

In a Spit you set and almost forget: you just choose if you want lean or rich, the system will automatically then adjust mixture to maintain the selected ratio.

Since there are carburetors at work, the amount of throttle you are using also has an effect on mixture. Semi-auto systems take care of this for the pilot, manual ones don't.

That's why in the G.50 you find you have to keep throttle high when you are at higher altitudes. You can in fact throttle back when up there, but you will need to bring the mixture back up a notch or two. So, in general, throttle and mixture should be adjusted together.

I only had two tests post-patch, one in the cross country mission to familiarize and then a quick mission dogfight against some Gladiators. During the dogfight i found that keeping oil rads to 50% or less keeps the oil temps around 50-60 which is probably the low part of the comfort zone. I don't remember what i had my cowl flaps set to, but i remember that they didn't need much babysitting either.

Using 80% prop pitch (RPM at about 2000) i could then simply play with the throttle as needed (ok, as long as it's not a prolonged high power climb or idling dive, then i'd have to readjust radiators and cowl flaps) without problems.

Broodwich
May-20-2012, 00:22
Finally got my first human fighter earlier today. My sorties have so far consisted of blowing up my own engine or not seeing anything (then usually blowing up my own engine), so it felt pretty good. However, it happened as the server was resetting, so i shot him until he bailed and before his plane hit the ground his plane turned into a ufo flying across the sky sideways :P

I did however find that the upper limit for your engine temperature is just about 300 degrees C. This is obtainable even with full rads open if you stay in boost mode and/or full prop pitch, so heads up on that. With WEP on you will need to adjust mixture quite early, about 1km. It should be noted the engine temperature gauge has to be set to on with a little dial right below it. You can select a few difference cylinder heads but I havent noticed any difference between them so I just use the first one.

I have been using the oil radiator at a setting between 2-4 clicks open. Its extremely easy to overcool them.

Ive also found that trimming the nose up a few clicks is very helpful