DCS: Normandy WW2

[Silver_Dragon]

First pic of Normandy WW2. A Spitfire Mk IX on a normandy advanced aerodrom, build with STM cover.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2726370&postcount=5

Seconds before crash landing at new airfield. :)

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SMT cover

http://www.ronaldv.nl/abandoned/airfields/FR/lowernormandy/stpierre7.jpg

[Silver_Dragon]

New pic from normandy (WW2)

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2737396&postcount=26


By the way...
Have a nice weekend with DCS!
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[Silver_Dragon]

A interesting detail about Normandy. From April, 8 DCS: W Newsletter.


Development of the specially created "DCS: Normandy 1944" map for DCS World War II continues its development at a fast pace. Currently, the main effort is focused on airfields with different types of surfaces (a first for DCS World). For example: we are implementing SMT (Square Mesh Tracks) surfaces, which were widely used by the Allies for temporary airfields in Normandy following the landings. We are also developing the possibility to place airfields on the map using the Mission Editor (another first for DCS World).

[ATAG_Flare]

New pic from Racoon on the ED forums:

http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=143201&stc=1&d=1467187435

[Silver_Dragon]

And Racoon talk the HDR is near to integrate on DCS: W.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2826108&postcount=242

HDR is coming... and it looks amazing already!

[Silver_Dragon]

New Racoon pic show HDR v2 on WW2, interesting light effects and shadow trees, that is not the final version.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2827036&postcount=259

Less "Maddox green" as was mentioned here. )))

Actually something like this: in the light of dying sun.
(WIP screen - image quality isn't final)

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[hnbdgr]

What are the chances we'll be getting a BoB scenario a few years down the line? Even if the map extends up to southern outskirts of london it would be viable. And with all the 3rd party devs supplying airplanes... :thumbsup:

[Silver_Dragon]

from a question about of AI units on WW2, Racoon show a Tiger II tank and get info about future news about them.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2828056&postcount=270

Spoiler of upcoming news (but not this Friday).
As example of new units quality.

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[Wolfskid]

Thank you Guys for the nice pics.....A Great Map will be coming.......anytime:ind::-)

HOLY MOLY.....:stunned:


THX

Wolfskid

[Silver_Dragon]

Racoon (Normandy WW2 team) search info about base radio communications from allied and Germans, with procedures, pyrotechnics, lights, brevity code and more to build realistic aerial base operations on WW2.

More info here:
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=170183

[Silver_Dragon]

From ED Facebook, pic of WW2 Normandy Theater;

https://www.facebook.com/eagle.dynamics/photos/a.10152231278930341.926967.441639040340/10157231549035341/?type=3&theater

An early, work-in-progress image from the Normandy map.

Happy Sunday!
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[Silver_Dragon]

Racoon, from WW2 Normandy team, confirm ED has plans on improve trains on WW2 scenery. Add trains as objets on the editor and logistic system on a future

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2864004&postcount=433

I do understand importance of a trains for WWII scenarios. We have all major railroads in the Normandy map now. Big problem is that trains in DCS aren't objects for mission makers. So we should create this feature for sure.


http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2864169&postcount=437

There are two features actually:
- train as a object for missions;
- train as a transportation unit for warehouse-airfield supply system.
It takes time to make any of them.


Not bad if ED can improve a truck logistic system to improve WW2 and others war sceneries.

[Silver_Dragon]

New Normandy WW2 pics

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[Mysticpuma]

Looks promising :)

[ATAG_Flare]

I'm liking that airfield look! This map looks like it'll be awesome.

[Vlerkies]

Looking very nice! :thumbsup:

[Silver_Dragon]

Normandy WW2 new pics from DCS: World Newsletter

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[Vlerkies]

To be totally honest, that looks incredible!
:salute:

The 4 fuel storage tanks in the fisrt pic look very blown out though, just being super critical.

[Talisman]

Exciting! But is it me, or do those airfields seem to stand out as rather too bold. Real life airfields tend to start blending in with the surroundings once you get a little distance from them. I suppose an airfield that had only just been completed would stand out as more of a fresh scar on the landscape though.
Not sure if these airfields are long established or just constructed.

Happy landings,

Talisman

[Lensman]

WIP:salute:

[IIJG27Rich]

What kind of system do you need to run it well?

[LuseKofte]

I got a i7 2,8 ghz 18 mb Ram and a gtx 680 with 1090 x something resolution. I fly in 2.0 Beta with no problems with pretty good settings, in 1,5 I have stutter if it is too dense with the same settings.
I feel it run well consider my old rig.

[IIJG27Rich]

I got a i7 2,8 ghz 18 mb Ram and a gtx 680 with 1090 x something resolution. I fly in 2.0 Beta with no problems with pretty good settings, in 1,5 I have stutter if it is too dense with the same settings.
I feel it run well consider my old rig.


You've got a little more ram than I but that's about the same system I have. I can update it now problem though. Thanks LuseKofte :salute:

[Silver_Dragon]

Racoon, Normady WW2 member.... incoming news about WW2.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2912753&postcount=577

Early announcement of further news...

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[Wolfskid]

Thank you Silver_Drag for the Great Pic....:stunned:
I CAN`T wait to fly this GREAT Sim....:)

KR

Wolfskid

[Mysticpuma]

Shame about the P-47. That was the main reason I invested in the Kickstarter :(

Nice pic and thanks for the update.

[Silver_Dragon]

P-47 has delayed by problems by AFM

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[Vlerkies]

P-47 has delayed by problems by AFM

ED/DCS QA at work. no complaints.

[No.401_Wolverine]

ED/DCS QA at work. no complaints.

It's a little more than that, unfortunately, due to the fact that all of Republic aircraft's papers were pretty much destroyed when the company was sold. There's simply hardly any real information available to make the kind of FM that is possible with the Spitfire, for example, which has LOADS of those old test documents around.


EDIT: Looks like some users on the boards have given the developers some promising leads for info, so that's encouraging!

[Vlerkies]

It's a little more than that, unfortunately, due to the fact that all of Republic aircraft's papers were pretty much destroyed when the company was sold. There's simply hardly any real information available to make the kind of FM that is possible with the Spitfire, for example, which has LOADS of those old test documents around.


EDIT: Looks like some users on the boards have given the developers some promising leads for info, so that's encouraging!

I have been following the developments at a distance. If I may ask, why would this data be so elusive seeing as though there are P-47's still flying today.
Are the Republic's company docs completely mia?

It's common for Axis aircraft to have a lack of 'acceptable' info, but on the allied side the documentary stuff was largely preserved.

[ATAG_Flare]

That spitty pic is marvellous.

[No.401_Wolverine]

I have been following the developments at a distance. If I may ask, why would this data be so elusive seeing as though there are P-47's still flying today.
Are the Republic's company docs completely mia?

It's common for Axis aircraft to have a lack of 'acceptable' info, but on the allied side the documentary stuff was largely preserved.

It seems like there's a lot less info out there about Republic aircraft due to the way in which its documents were disposed of when the company went under. Here's a good article on it:

http://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/when-republic-aviation-folded-69197851/?no-ist

[ATAG_Torian]

It seems like there's a lot less info out there about Republic aircraft due to the way in which its documents were disposed of when the company went under. Here's a good article on it:

http://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/when-republic-aviation-folded-69197851/?no-ist

Wow that is gobsmacking stupidity. What far sighted bozo ordered the destruction of a major chunk of aviation history like that ? Unbelievable !

[Vlerkies]

It seems like there's a lot less info out there about Republic aircraft due to the way in which its documents were disposed of when the company went under. Here's a good article on it:

http://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/when-republic-aviation-folded-69197851/?no-ist

Thx Wolverine, will read up tomorrow minus the wine glasses's ;)

In the interim though, allow me to remain somewhat shocked that this particular airframe is proving to be a bit of a mystery of sorts.
Not that I know any better, I just figured there would be an excess of info/data available for this crate.


:salute:

I can help out though , it generally turned like the Titanic, was built like a Tiger tank, and packed the punch of Ali x1000000
:)

[No.401_Wolverine]

Gorgeous new photos today of the Normandy map with Spitfire engaging train and FW190 attacking American truck convoy!

Because they keep releasing photos of the Spitfire in situ on the Normandy map I think what we're going to see is a simultaneous release with some kind of 'package' deal to buy the Normandy map + Spitfire for $99 or something. Unfortunately for those of us with the Spitfire already purchased, that means waiting longer I guess. :(

[Silver_Dragon]

Normandy WW2
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[Bounder!]

Taken from the DCS update 28/10/2016
https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2936445#post2936445


DCS World War II Update (28/10/016)

Work continues at great speed on new elements of DCS World War II. Much of the work is focused on DCS: Spitfire LF Mk IX and the Normandy map, and both are, or will be soon, going into internal test! This is always a good sign that we are approaching an Early Access release. In addition to the Spitfire and WW II era map, we also continue working on new AI units to inhabit the map. Last week we had a look at the Tiger tank, this week we offer first looks at the Panther and a work-in-progress image of the B-17.



https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/f3c/SpitIX_InvasionStripes.jpg

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/928/Panther.jpg

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/5dc/B17-1.png

[ATAG_((dB))]

Have they finally remove the HF antenna on the spit?

[Wolfskid]

Thank you very much for your sharing,@ BOUNDER!.

What a wonderful BIG HEAVY LADY, the B 17....:):stunned:

AMAZING....


Thanks again....

kr

Wolfskid

[Silver_Dragon]

LCM AI unit by Racoon to Normandia WW2

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3000544&postcount=28
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Tomorrow, december, 30 can be WW2 news on the DCS: W Newsletter

[Marco]

DCS World Weekend News here:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3001310&postcount=64

Sounding very promising! Still a while to wait before the WWII warbirds get to fly through their proper landscape.

~S~

[Silver_Dragon]

Racoon (WW2 ED team) show WW2 Normandy map extension to South England, and new airbases.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3026496&postcount=2
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[ATAG_Flare]

Was just about to post this! That is awesome news for DCS!

[ATAG_Flare]

A bunch more images! First the ones from the DCS FB page:

http://i.imgur.com/VedAxSI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/vRzGFBL.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KkxuHES.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/C7ngzar.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XI73tsH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/CmZZu2B.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/y1NaVMe.jpg

Now three extras posted on Mudspike, showing what I think is Cherbourg, Caen, and Pointe-du-Hoc.

http://i.imgur.com/8rKxi1t.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/V7EOs4b.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/yJt9gUY.jpg

It's looking good!

[Screamadelica]

It's looking bloody fantastic!
The wait is killing me. :)

[Mysticpuma]

Can't wait to see an Armada of 40 B-17's escorted by 20-30 Mustangs as 20 Fw-190's an 30 109's plough through the bomber formation. Flak exploding all around...amazing!

How's the netcode?

[♣_Spiritus_♣]

Can't wait to see an Armada of 40 B-17's escorted by 20-30 Mustangs as 20 Fw-190's an 30 109's plough through the bomber formation. Flak exploding all around...amazing!


It does look absolutely stunning, I love DCS for what it is and will fly around this map a lot but


How's the netcode?

Designed for jet battles that rarely allow the two sides to see each other. The numbers you mention above are a dream unfortunately unless they start having major advancements (Which they may well be having, I don't know. I hope they are).

[1lokos]

Can't wait to see an Armada of 40 B-17's escorted by 20-30 Mustangs as 20 Fw-190's an 30 109's plough through the bomber formation. Flak exploding all around...amazing!


This will happen in DCS Next Gen (that generation after your generation). :)

Or do you hope to continue simulating at age 100? http://simhq.com/forum/images/graemlins/default/old_simmer.gif

[farley]

This will happen in DCS Next Gen (that generation after your generation). :)

Or do you hope to continue simulating at age 100? http://simhq.com/forum/images/graemlins/default/old_simmer.gif


Well, like most men, i sure hope to have my stick in my hands at 100!:grandpa

Oh, sorry.... you said simulating..... i read it as stimulating..... oh my....:doh:

Um, yes, i hope to have a joystick used for flying sims in my hand and be flying at 100 years old....:)

Don't we all want to see TF and DCS 22.0?!

[Mysticpuma]

I have already seen the future of CloD with TFS :)

[9./JG26_Brigg]

Yeah Normandy is starting to look imense :thumbsup:

[9./JG26_Brigg]

a few more screenshots of Normandy released today https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3046596&postcount=7

[RAF74_Buzzsaw]

Don't understand why they decided on a Normandy map... :S

The 190D9 and 109K4 never flew missions over Normandy during the time the campaign was ongoing.

Something from the Ardennes or Northwest Belgium/Holland/Germany would have been more appropriate to the aircraft set.

Of course, by the time of the Ardennes, the P-51 was running 72 inches MAP, and the Spit IX was running +25 boost... so maybe the current versions wouldn't fit either. ;)

But the map definitely looks nice. :thumbsup:

[9./JG26_Brigg]

Don't understand why they decided on a Normandy map... :S

The 190D9 and 109K4 never flew missions over Normandy during the time the campaign was ongoing.

Something from the Ardennes or Northwest Belgium/Holland/Germany would have been more appropriate to the aircraft set.

Of course, by the time of the Ardennes, the P-51 was running 72 inches MAP, and the Spit IX was running +25 boost... so maybe the current versions wouldn't fit either. ;)

But the map definitely looks nice. :thumbsup:

ED have already stated that the p51 will be getting 72" and the mk ix +25lb boost later down the line.

[1lokos]

Don't understand why they decided on a Normandy map.


Kickstarter guy marketing idea: Normandy - "there Joes win the war" - sells better. :)

[FightingSteel1]

I'm interested in the Normandy map and trying out DCS stuff once all of this gets going, but I personally don't fully get the choice of map and aircraft either. The 109K and 190D are pretty late in the war for the Luftwaffe, and really should be associated with a map set in the Ardennes or somewhere inside Germany.

I guess no other sims right now were modeling that later era of German aircraft, but a Normandy map with earlier variants makes more sense. Are 109Gs, etc. planned at some point?

[ATAG_((dB))]

Don't understand why they decided on a Normandy map... :S

The 190D9 and 109K4 never flew missions over Normandy during the time the campaign was ongoing.

Something from the Ardennes or Northwest Belgium/Holland/Germany would have been more appropriate to the aircraft set.

Of course, by the time of the Ardennes, the P-51 was running 72 inches MAP, and the Spit IX was running +25 boost... so maybe the current versions wouldn't fit either. ;)

But the map definitely looks nice. :thumbsup:

Agree, it's very hard to debate that on DCS Forum with a S*&^ storm, not sure why it was decide like that.

[FightingSteel1]

Agree, it's very hard to debate that on DCS Forum with a S*&^ storm, not sure why it was decide like that.

One of the great things about this community is that things like this can usually be discussed without a furious flamewar starting.

[ATAG_Snapper]

If I'm not mistaken, I believe the choice of aircraft lies in the specific real life models that the ED development team has access to.

[gavagai]

If I'm not mistaken, I believe the choice of aircraft lies in the specific real life models that the ED development team has access to.

It was the the completeness of the flight test data that made the decision.

[ATAG_Snapper]

It was the the completeness of the flight test data that made the decision.

Ah, right. Thanks for that correction/clarification. :salute:

Over the weekend I auto-updated the 1.5.5 to 1.5.6. Maybe it's the placebo effect, but the Spit seems to taxi, take off, and land a bit easier now. Really liking how the Spitfire IX handles. And...cannons. :thumbsup:

[Foul Ole Ron]

ED have already stated that the p51 will be getting 72" and the mk ix +25lb boost later down the line.

Not sure about the 72" Mustang but Wags recently said that we won't be getting the +25lb Spit IX: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3030924&postcount=202

The whole DCS WW2 situation is just a bit disappointing overall. The map doesn't really fit most of the plane set even if it does look great. The plane set isn't really the most historical match up even if we're looking at something like a Bodenplatte scenario. The JGs who fought in Bodenplatte were much more likely to be flying G-14s and A-8s. The DM is currently poor but it's being worked on at least. The net code is still not great. Personally I switched over to BOS for now as while the FMs mightn't be as detailed as DCS it's a much more coherent product overall and they're churning nicely through their development cycles.

[gavagai]

Ah, right. Thanks for that correction/clarification. :salute:

Over the weekend I auto-updated the 1.5.5 to 1.5.6. Maybe it's the placebo effect, but the Spit seems to taxi, take off, and land a bit easier now. Really liking how the Spitfire IX handles. And...cannons. :thumbsup:

The cannons are excellent. I just wish we could see over the nose a little better. I suspect the Spitfire has the same no-refraction illness as the Fw 190.

[TWC_SLAG]

Don't understand why they decided on a Normandy map... :S

The 190D9 and 109K4 never flew missions over Normandy during the time the campaign was ongoing.

Something from the Ardennes or Northwest Belgium/Holland/Germany would have been more appropriate to the aircraft set.

Of course, by the time of the Ardennes, the P-51 was running 72 inches MAP, and the Spit IX was running +25 boost... so maybe the current versions wouldn't fit either. ;)

But the map definitely looks nice. :thumbsup:

Right about "Ardennes or Northwest Belgium/Holland/Germany". FW-190D's were involved in Operation Bodenplatte Dec 31, 1944, for sure. Only seven months after Normandy. Not sure about the Kurfurst.

[9./JG26_Brigg]

Not sure about the 72" Mustang but Wags recently said that we won't be getting the +25lb Spit IX: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3030924&postcount=202

The whole DCS WW2 situation is just a bit disappointing overall. The map doesn't really fit most of the plane set even if it does look great. The plane set isn't really the most historical match up even if we're looking at something like a Bodenplatte scenario. The JGs who fought in Bodenplatte were much more likely to be flying G-14s and A-8s. The DM is currently poor but it's being worked on at least. The net code is still not great. Personally I switched over to BOS for now as while the FMs mightn't be as detailed as DCS it's a much more coherent product overall and they're churning nicely through their development cycles.

it is getting updated to 72" when we get the new damage model if I remember correctly.

[RAF74_Buzzsaw]

Right about "Ardennes or Northwest Belgium/Holland/Germany". FW-190D's were involved in Operation Bodenplatte Dec 31, 1944, for sure. Only seven months after Normandy. Not sure about the Kurfurst.

First K-4's began arriving in mid October, with decent numbers available by mid December.

First D-9's arrived in September, there were never huge numbers of them, but they were present in reasonable quantities by December.

So either of these planes would fit an Ardennes or Bodenplatte scenario.

Most common 109 at the time of Normandy was the G-6.... of various types... plus some G-14's. G-10 actually didn't arrive till after the G-14, at about the same time as the K4.

Most common 190A types during Normandy were the 190A-6 to A-8 versions. Personally I like the A-6 of the later types... didn't have the extra weight and armour of the A-8 but it did have 1.65ata and the outer cannon were MG151/20mm, not MG/FFM's. If you wanted to attack B-17's, then the A-8's were the best bet, but if you wanted to fight Spits, the A-6 was the shitz. I would like to see an A-6 in TFS's future... but it is a long time and a lot of variables away. ;)

[Mastiff]

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3053411#post3053411

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[Silver_Dragon]

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/a38/Screen_170216_142831.jpg
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https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/8c0/Screen_170216_133137.jpg
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/b84/Screen_170216_132738.jpg
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/7b7/Bombs-away.jpg
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/4a3/B-17G-bombs.jpg

[ATAG_Highseas]

Impressive

[Torric270]

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/a38/Screen_170216_142831.jpg
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/06e/Screen_170216_133732.jpg
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https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/b84/Screen_170216_132738.jpg
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/7b7/Bombs-away.jpg
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/4a3/B-17G-bombs.jpg

Now make that 17 flyable :-)

[rel4y]

Wooow, that B-17G... That is amazing!

[9./JG26_Brigg]

Hell yeah that B17 looks awesome! All most to nice to introduce to Dora and Kurfurst :)

[RAF74_Buzzsaw]

Very nice looking B-17. :thumbsup:

[Silver_Dragon]

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/03e/Screen_170303_131410.jpg
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/ca0/Screen_170303_131311.jpg
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/22c/Screen_170303_125349.jpg
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/531/Screen_170303_125248.jpg
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[Hurricane]

Wow !!! very impressive indeed. :coolio:

Best wishes,
Mike.

[gavagai]

ED moderator negative rep'd a guy (not me) who pointed out that the props do not appear visible in some images. The guy complained, and the mod suspended him and deleted the relevant posts while I was reading the thread.

Yeah, it is a WIP and it's looking great, but that's some super thin skin over there. Be careful if you post something critical of an early release product.:stunned:

[Catseye]

ED moderator negative rep'd a guy (not me) who pointed out that the props do not appear visible in some images. The guy complained, and the mod suspended him and deleted the relevant posts while I was reading the thread.

Yeah, it is a WIP and it's looking great, but that's some super thin skin over there. Be careful if you post something critical of an early release product.:stunned:

I think it was for the way he was complaining - not for what he was complaining about. There are tonnes of critiques on the early release products, including many of mine. I've only seen posts removed lately if off-topic or insulting another person. Particularly if insulting a moderator. Do you know if the poster and the moderator were communicating via PM? If the moderator gets insulted there you can kiss your privileges goodbye.

I think you are doing DCS a disservice for implying that they are thin-skinned about critiques because in my experience they are not.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Points here are well taken re critiquing WIP on new projects. One of the third party developers stopped issuing WIP reports altogether due to the demoralizing effects of criticism on the dev team. This was a darn shame to the rest of us who eagerly anticipated updates of progress accomplished.

There's something to be said about how suggestions/critiquing is done. Things can be said that can be received badly even if the poster had no knowledge or intention of being abrasive. It's not for me to judge how things are done elsewhere, but forum moderators can and must be protective of the elements that drive the success of the simulation at hand. It ain't easy at times. One message to take from all this is when commenting on someone's baby: be nice.

:salute:

[gavagai]

I think you are doing DCS a disservice for implying that they are thin-skinned about critiques because in my experience they are not.

Sorry, I don't think I said anything about ED. This is just one mod who goes a little nuts when he perceives criticism.

If you were reading the thread then you know nothing was said disrespectfully in public. As for PM, that is a black box.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Folks, could we please get off the topic of moderators on another forum?

[Hurricane]

I love the look of DCS, but from what i have read it seems to be "pay ware city".

Get the base game for free and then everything else is DLC.

Not sure if that is a fair assessment or not ?

Best wishes,
Mike.

[ATAG_Snapper]

I love the look of DCS, but from what i have read it seems to be "pay ware city".

Get the base game for free and then everything else is DLC.

Not sure if that is a fair assessment or not ?

Best wishes,
Mike.

Partly fair. :D

Yes, you get the base game (Caucasus map) free plus two free planes - T51D (unarmed trainer Mustang) and the Su25. After that you indeed have to pay for additional planes and maps.

However, you need only pick and pay for the aircraft you wish to fly 'n fight in, you don't have to buy 'em all in one go; same for the other maps (Vegas and upcoming Normandy). The sweet thing is that ED frequently have sales on where the planes/maps are heavily discounted singly or in package groups. Also, the aircraft come fully armed, so there's no having to make additional purchases to stay "competitive".

I have the Spitfire, P51D, A10C, Huey, F86, and F15. The level of detail in each is astounding -- they are definitely study sims of each IMHO. Plus, all of them are continually being improved & tweaked by auto updates, so I don't mind paying a reasonable sum to keep that going.

I've just dipped my toe into online play on the Burning Skies World War 2 server. Technically it works very well on my rig - no issues. It doesn't have the same scope as Clod online, although the Normandy Map with additional aircraft introduced will enhance this aspect, obviously. Plus, the modern jet virtual fliers would justifiably take me to task, especially with the new Vegas map.

Cliffs of Dover is certainly my first love and passion, but it's been fun checking out "the other turf" and money well spent, I've found.

:salute:

[Hurricane]

Partly fair. :D

Yes, you get the base game (Caucasus map) free plus two free planes - T51D (unarmed trainer Mustang) and the Su25. After that you indeed have to pay for additional planes and maps.

However, you need only pick and pay for the aircraft you wish to fly 'n fight in, you don't have to buy 'em all in one go; same for the other maps (Vegas and upcoming Normandy). The sweet thing is that ED frequently have sales on where the planes/maps are heavily discounted singly or in package groups. Also, the aircraft come fully armed, so there's no having to make additional purchases to stay "competitive".

I have the Spitfire, P51D, A10C, Huey, F86, and F15. The level of detail in each is astounding -- they are definitely study sims of each IMHO. Plus, all of them are continually being improved & tweaked by auto updates, so I don't mind paying a reasonable sum to keep that going.

I've just dipped my toe into online play on the Burning Skies World War 2 server. Technically it works very well on my rig - no issues. It doesn't have the same scope as Clod online, although the Normandy Map with additional aircraft introduced will enhance this aspect, obviously. Plus, the modern jet virtual fliers would justifiably take me to task, especially with the new Vegas map.

Cliffs of Dover is certainly my first love and passion, but it's been fun checking out "the other turf" and money well spent, I've found.

:salute:

Hi Snapper,

so i was slightly unfair then. It was only what i briefly read on their web site. Then looked at their shop and the prices seem very high for single aircraft.

Same situation in rail sim, those prices would get you a route, loco's and rolling stock to run on it.

Cannot fault the detail and graphics in general looking at screenies and vids on YT.

I just don't have that sort of money, to chuck at a game.

Plus i am more than happy with CLOD, if a little less happy with 1946. ;;)

I appreciate the extra info Snapper. :thumbsup:

Best regards, :salute:
Mike.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Roger that. Keep an eye on their sales, which usually get posted here. It's not unusual to see a $49 aircraft sell for less than half that.

In the meantime, you can always download and install DCS World free of charge to see how it works on your system. You may really like the look and feel of it to pursue it further when the sales arrive. By comparison, awhile ago I purchased Microsoft's FSX, then Air to Air Simulations' Wings of Power 3 Spitfire Mk 1/2. Then purchased the Accusim upgrade, plus weather, terrain, clouds, airports etc etc. I was over $200 for a beautiful Spitfire with everything functioning....except....no guns. Great for touring and air shows. You could go online to fly in formation with other online players. I'm sure you get my drift.

:salute:

[Hurricane]

Roger that. Keep an eye on their sales, which usually get posted here. It's not unusual to see a $49 aircraft sell for less than half that.

In the meantime, you can always download and install DCS World free of charge to see how it works on your system. You may really like the look and feel of it to pursue it further when the sales arrive. By comparison, awhile ago I purchased Microsoft's FSX, then Air to Air Simulations' Wings of Power 3 Spitfire Mk 1/2. Then purchased the Accusim upgrade, plus weather, terrain, clouds, airports etc etc. I was over $200 for a beautiful Spitfire with everything functioning....except....no guns. Great for touring and air shows. You could go online to fly in formation with other online players. I'm sure you get my drift.

:salute:

Understood thank you Snapper. :thumbsup:

Yup true enough in regards just having a look at the base game and free P51, the modern stuff wouldn't interest me.

Anything up to the 1960's would be good though. English Electric Lightning for instance. :cool:

Thanks again buddy. :salute:

Best wishes,
Mike.

[Vlerkies]

Subscribe to the DCS newsletter Dogbert, pretty much every friday they send it out, sometimes mid week and often with specials or sales notices.

Picked up the Mi8 and Mig-21 end of Feb for under 50$, in essence 2 for the price of one.

[Hurricane]

Thanks Vlerkies, certainly worth a look. :thumbsup:

Many thanks buddy.

Best regards, :salute:
Mike.

[Silver_Dragon]

Trailer, AI units (land, naval and air) list (CA compatible) and prizes (3 packs) about Normandy on ED Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/eagle.dynamics/videos/10158413498320341/

More AI Units coming in the future, expected release late April.

[Bounder!]

Announcement via facebook now on ED forums:


The DCS: Normandy 1944 Map and DCS: World War II Assets Pack will be available for download by late April 2017.

More details coming this weekend in the Newsletter!

The DCS: Normandy 1944 Map is centred on the World War II battlefield of Normandy, France and is specifically created to depict the period after the D-Day landings and the establishment of several allied airfields in Normandy to support the beachhead breakout in late June 1944. The map measures 267 x 348 kilometres and includes airfields in both Normandy and southern England. The map includes the famous D-Day landing beaches and the “Atlantic Wall”, rolling bocage fields of Normandy, large cities like Caen and Rouen, ports of Cherbourg and Le Havre, and 30 airfields. The map also includes multiple seasons and more detail and accuracy than any previous DCS World map by utilizing new map technologies.

A vital aspect of creating an authentic World War II battlefield is to populate it with matching artificial intelligence (AI) World War II assets. The DCS: World War II Assets Pack provides numerous World War II air, land and sea assets to populate the Normandy and other DCS World maps with. Eagle Dynamics has spent the last three year creating an entirely new set of combat vehicles to support DCS: World War II, and each unit is created with an exceptional level of detail and accuracy. These assets include:

• Tanks and Mobile Artillery
o M4 Sherman Firefly
o M4A4 Sherman with "Rhino" hedge cutter
o Mk VIII Cromwell
o Jagdpanzer IV
o Sd.Kfz. 162
o Tiger I
o Tiger II
o Panther V
o Panzer IV
o Sturmpanzer IV Brummbär, Sd. Kfz. 166
o Jagdpanther G1

• Cars and Trucks
o Jeep Willys
o Truck CCKW 353
o Bedford MWD
o Kübelwagen 82
o Truck Blitz 36-6700A

• Steam Train and Cars
o DRG Class 86 locomotive
o Tank wagon
o G10 covered wagon
o DR 50 Ton Flat Wagon Type SSys

• Anti-Aircraft Artillery
o Bofors 40 mm gun
o 8.8 cm Flak Gun 18, 36, & 37
o 2 cm Flak 30/38/Flakvierling

• Ships
o LCVP Higgins
o LST Mk2
o USS Samuel Chase

• Infantry
o US soldier
o UK soldier
o German soldier

• Aircraft
o B-17G bomber

The DCS: World War II Assets Pack will continue to grow with DCS: Combined Arms compatibility and free asset additions that includes:

• New tanks
• SdKfz 234/2 "Puma"
• Sd.Kfz. 251
• Sd.Kfz.2 Kettenkrad
• Horch staff car
• E-boat Schnellboot type S-130
• Uboat type 7
• German search lights
• Barrage balloons
• Avro Lancaster
• Hawker Typhoon
• C-47
• Ju-88
• Fw 190 A-6 and A-8
• Bf 109 G-6
• A-20 Havoc/Boston
• B-24
• B-25
• B-26

The DCS: Normandy Map and the DCS: World War II Assets Pack will be available as a 20%-off, pre-purchase bundle for $47.99. Upon release in late April 2017, the DCS: Normandy 1944 Map and DCS: World War II Assets Pack bundle will be sold for $59.99, and the stand-alone DCS: Normandy 1944 Map for $44.99 and the stand-alone DCS: World War II Assets pack for $29.99.

Note: Those that took part in the DCS: World War II Kickstarter campaign, and provided a high enough contribution to receive the Normandy map, will receive the assets pack for free.

link to post and thread: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3072965#post3072965

[Bounder!]

Not too impressed that they are splitting the ww2 map and ww2 units as separate DLC.

[BOO]

Yet to be converted to DCS but even at the full price the assets and the map still seem reasonable given the hundreds, if not thousands of hours the purchaser will get out of them (compared say to the 23 mins of pleasure the last £2.40 bottle of Abbot has just given me :-))

Still looking forward to TFS4.5 and 5.0 more tho! :-)

[RAF74_Buzzsaw]

Any WWII Combat Flight Sim is a bargain in my estimation... there's few enough of them out there. :thumbsup:

[ATAG_((dB))]

Not too impressed that they are splitting the ww2 map and ww2 units as separate DLC.

Yes and no Bounder, if you are interested in WW2 you can buy it as package for $47.99 on pre sales or at full price $59.99 that include all of the units. For those who aren't into the WW2 planes but would like the map they can by only the map for $44.99. I agree it could be miss understood by some and leave some people frustrated however.

But again for us the WW2 fan the price is 48$ on pre release that include ALL the units.

[DerDa]

[QUOTE=ATAG_((dB))

But again for us the WW2 fan the price is 48$ on pre release that include ALL the units.[/QUOTE]

The WWII fans most probably will already have some (in my case two) of the birds from backing the original crowd funding thingy. So now I would have to pay for two ac that I already own, or buy map and all missing planes separately. I don't know how this would be moneywise, but it is not what I would call customer friendly.

[LuseKofte]

To me DCS are mostly unplayable, jets I am interested in get shot down by F 15 from miles away, and WW2 planes do not match in performance and timeframe, not even The Normandy map fits the 109. And you are left with a simulator you can dogfight only in.
The DCS brand is a collection of different planes from different time era, not compatible in the same server and too few to fill the servers to provide a match.
I like many things in DCS but those things get blasted away in online servers, choppers and such. So I am very grateful for the offline features.
For a guy liking big and heavy or slow and clumsy, online servers in any flightsim is nonsense.

[ATAG_((dB))]

The WWII fans most probably will already have some (in my case two) of the birds from backing the original crowd funding thingy. So now I would have to pay for two ac that I already own, or buy map and all missing planes separately. I don't know how this would be moneywise, but it is not what I would call customer friendly.

Hi Derda, no you got that wrong or I wasn't clear enough.


We will have to buy for the Normandie map and
The WW2 units that include

• Tanks and Mobile Artillery
o M4 Sherman Firefly
o M4A4 Sherman with "Rhino" hedge cutter
o Mk VIII Cromwell
o Jagdpanzer IV
o Sd.Kfz. 162
o Tiger I
o Tiger II
o Panther V
o Panzer IV
o Sturmpanzer IV Brummbär, Sd. Kfz. 166
o Jagdpanther G1

• Cars and Trucks
o Jeep Willys
o Truck CCKW 353
o Bedford MWD
o Kübelwagen 82
o Truck Blitz 36-6700A

• Steam Train and Cars
o DRG Class 86 locomotive
o Tank wagon
o G10 covered wagon
o DR 50 Ton Flat Wagon Type SSys

• Anti-Aircraft Artillery
o Bofors 40 mm gun
o 8.8 cm Flak Gun 18, 36, & 37
o 2 cm Flak 30/38/Flakvierling

• Ships
o LCVP Higgins
o LST Mk2
o USS Samuel Chase

• Infantry
o US soldier
o UK soldier
o German soldier

• Aircraft
o B-17G bomber

The DCS: World War II Assets Pack will continue to grow with DCS: Combined Arms compatibility and free asset additions that includes:

• New tanks
• SdKfz 234/2 "Puma"
• Sd.Kfz. 251
• Sd.Kfz.2 Kettenkrad
• Horch staff car
• E-boat Schnellboot type S-130
• Uboat type 7
• German search lights
• Barrage balloons
• Avro Lancaster
• Hawker Typhoon
• C-47
• Ju-88
• Fw 190 A-6 and A-8
• Bf 109 G-6
• A-20 Havoc/Boston
• B-24
• B-25
• B-26

All that for 48$ but if you are a Kickstarter backer it is free. That does not include the planes, it include the map and the units that's all.

Why have they chosen to separate the ww2 unit and the Normandie map (I know they write it with the Y but last time I check Normandie was in France) is up to speculation from my part but I think they want to please their main customer base (Jets planes) because they have showed interest into buying the map but careless about the ground units.

[Bounder!]

The WWII fans most probably will already have some (in my case two) of the birds from backing the original crowd funding thingy. So now I would have to pay for two ac that I already own, or buy map and all missing planes separately. I don't know how this would be moneywise, but it is not what I would call customer friendly.

You don't have to buy any new planes at all. DCS will still work as it does now, you buy the planes you want to fly. If you don't have the Spitfire you don't need to buy it to see other players flying it online. All flyable aircraft are included as AI in DCS world regardless of map.

What we have are options of buying a ww2 map and/or new non flyable ww2 AI units to use along side the free caucasus map and any planes you own.

You can buy the ww2 map only and fly your planes on this. ($44.99)

You can buy the AI asset pack only and presumably fly on the free caucasus map with ww2 AI units ($29.99).

You can buy the ww2 map and asset pack and fly in ww2 environment with peroid units. ($49.99 pre-sale, $60 thereafter).

The ww2 map will be released on DCS 2.X (Edge engine - same as Nevada), not on the older 1.5 engine which will end when caucasus map is updated to new engine. The Edge engine is a free download (currently named DCS World Alpha build), you download it and use the Edge compatible maps you've bought (Nevada and WW2 Normandy maps).

[Bounder!]

Those of us that backed the kickstarter and are getting the ww2 map as part of rewards will also get the ww2 asset pack.

A lot of us we're worried yesterday on seeing the news that the map and new ww2 AI units are to be sold separately. This appeared to possibly split a small online playerbase even further between those who had the map and asset pack and those only buying the map. The latter group will be unable to join multiplayer servers running with the asset pack despite owning the ww2 map itself.

After thinking about it I think it may actually have the opposite effect of splitting the playerbase. If the ww2 units had been made free to use on any map, a larger group may have forgone paying $50 for the Normandy map and simply carried on with the free caucasus map and not paid for the development of the new units. Now we still have the choice of carrying on using the free map but to use the ww2 content you have to pay something. This recoup some cost for ED and may encourage more to buy both the map and content. I guess this is part of the thinking behind it and it might not be such a terrible idea after all.

[1lokos]

Of course people is "moaning" about Normandy 1944 price politics (expected), but:

Normandy 1944 map + AI 1944 cost ~60$ = (the worthless, IMO) NTTR map price - no exclusive AI pack included there.

Normandy 1944 map without AI and so with discount is for ones that don't like WWII, but after years of Georgia landscape want a new map for play in "Final Countdown" style (after all DCSW is all about "what if's") - and if eventually get tired of this can buy the AI pack standalone. In the same way the ones that only want WWII Assets for place in Georgia or NTTR will can, since many people like create "What if" situations, the 'W' in DCSW. :D More sales options = more sales.

So the options is more Win, Win than otherwise. :thumbsup:

[DerDa]

Thanks to all for clarification.

S!

DerDa

[Chivas]

I understand that it can be too expensive for some, but that doesn't change the fact that these products are expensive to create, and enough profit has to be made to even consider continuing to support and addon to the product. Personally I think these products are incredibly cheap when compared to the hours of entertainment they provide.

[Taxman]

I understand that it can be too expensive for some, but that doesn't change the fact that these products are expensive to create, and enough profit has to be made to even consider continuing to support and addon to the product. Personally I think these products are incredibly cheap when compared to the hours of entertainment they provide.

Thank you Chivas, my thoughts also. However there are those who will disagree.:doh:

[LuseKofte]

I have no problem understanding the prices, I just installed X plane , getting a descant terrain and airport cost you your children, a flyable chopper the same. Worst part is I bought v 10 several month ago , and now it is 11. To have one of those simulators installed, a fortune have to be spent to make it look remotely as you believed it would when buying it.
In DCS every plane is a sim by itself, own campaign and training. No problem at all seing it cost money to make, BUTTT!!! the progression go in all direction, nothing is finished.

[ATAG_Ezzie]

I understand that it can be too expensive for some, but that doesn't change the fact that these products are expensive to create, and enough profit has to be made to even consider continuing to support and addon to the product. Personally I think these products are incredibly cheap when compared to the hours of entertainment they provide.

Agree. I was thinking about this the other day. I spent about $4500 oz buying a new pc to play COD in feb 2014 and since then according to steam i have over 2100 hrs. So $2 per hour seems a pretty cheap hobby compared to others. and the more i fly the cheaper the hobby becomes. If you take out the pc cost and just work this out based on the $50 i paid for the game and the monthly internet cost then its an incredibly cheap form of entertainment. But understand not everyone sees it this way.

Ezzie

[DerDa]

And if we add all the hours we didn't have to spend in the pub because of flightsims, we all should be millionaires by now.
:):):)

[Vlerkies]

Newsletter

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/newsletters/newsletter10032017.html


The DCS: Normandy Map and the DCS: World War II Assets Pack will be available as a 20%-off, pre-purchase bundle for $47.99. Upon release in late May 2017, the DCS: Normandy 1944 Map and DCS: World War II Assets Pack bundle will be sold for $59.99, and the stand-alone DCS: Normandy 1944 Map for $44.99 and the stand-alone DCS: World War II Assets pack for $29.99.

Note: Those that took part in the DCS: World War II Kickstarter campaign, and provided a high enough contribution to receive the Normandy map, will receive the assets pack for free.

Sincerely,

[Hurricane]

It looks really impressive. But i have my hands full just learning about CLOD. :thumbsup:

Best regards, :salute:
Mike.

[ATAG_Highseas]

It looks really impressive. But i have my hands full just learning about CLOD. :thumbsup:

Best regards, :salute:
Mike.

yeah...

I considered it...

but then I'd need to also buy a plane I actually want to fly...

so....

two minds...

:whacky:

[Vlerkies]

It looks really impressive. But i have my hands full just learning about CLOD. :thumbsup:

Best regards, :salute:
Mike.

It appears as if you are of sound and sober mind Dogbert :)

Trust me, CLOD will keep you busy for a long long while.
Many of the DCS modules are more study sim orientated with regards to aircraft systems of each module and flicking switches.
I love that stuff make no mistake, but CLOD will offer you hundreds of hours of fun and frustration in the same breath in trying to learn how to methodically and systematically eek out the smallest advantage over your opponent.
A more pure online flying by the seat of your pants experience for sure!!

No matter how good you think you are getting, there are no guarantees, and you need to keep your wits about you and your wingman close in order to stay alive.
Make a mistake and you will pay for it, even at the hands of a much less experienced pilot.
Lots of discipline required to fly CLOD well and stay alive.


It's a wonderful challenge and great fun at the same time.
:salute:

[LuseKofte]

Yes I am afraid COD will be the WW 2 sim I fully will be involved in. It is the dammed thing it have to take so much time all these simulators. I am just addicted to DCS offline flying in choppers. You can push [pause] and do other stuff.
We will see neither of my installed simulators will go away any time soon. So I probably enjoy them for what they are over a 10 year span

[Marco]

Recording of Saturday's live stream. Q & A and tour of some of the Normandy map.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3084317&postcount=75

Enjoy!!

~S~

[ATAG_NakedSquirrel]

Yeah, I always kind of wonder if this is a smart business model or not...

I think if they charged a little less, they'd get more exposure, more people in the game, and thus generate more sales.

Still, it's never been sold as a traditional game. Rather than have to wait several years for a complete expansion pack to come out, you can purchase individual aircraft, maps, content separately, and as the game engine updates, it updates all of your purchased content. Also, (besides the simplified FC3 aircraft), most the aircraft offered are very high fidelity. You can interact with every switch and system in the cockpit.

I suggest buying content when it goes on sale. They usually have a sale every quarter, and a different bundle every month. You also get the bonus cash for purchasing a product from their site, which can take up to 25% or so off a product.

The sales are the only reason I own or ever got into many of the modules in the first place.

[DerDa]

Well, in the end the business model does not change a thing.
That big argument of ‘a) voice of reason’ against ‘b) voice of Iwantthat’ already started in my mind:
“b) Iwantthat!
a) but you don’t have time
b) Iwantthat!
a) you never even learned to take of with the 190 or the 109.
b) Iwantthat!
a) and it is real money
b) Iwantthat!!!”

The result of this argument is always determined from the very beginning…

[Hurricane]

The more i read this thread the more i am tempted to download the base game. :D

I could always request the two Normandy modules for my birthday. :woohoo:

Best regards,
Mike.

[Talisman]

Well, in the end the business model does not change a thing.
That big argument of ‘a) voice of reason’ against ‘b) voice of Iwantthat’ already started in my mind:
“b) Iwantthat!
a) but you don’t have time
b) Iwantthat!
a) you never even learned to take of with the 190 or the 109.
b) Iwantthat!
a) and it is real money
b) Iwantthat!!!”

The result of this argument is always determined from the very beginning…

Thank you so much for this post. :) My day is already more than half way done and you have made me smile for the first time today. Thanks again for cheering me up.

Happy landings,

56RAF_Talisman

[Hurricane]

I just spent 4 hours downloading the base game :doh:

Got fibre here for heaven sake.

Going to have a look at it now. :thumbsup:

Best wishes,
Mike.

[Hurricane]

Pretty smooth on my setup even with the GTX660 and the "High" in game preset used.

https://s13.postimg.org/5xjl3h18n/DCS.png

I could be in the market for this, but only for Normandy as modern era does not interest me.

Although the F-86F Sabre and the Mig 15bis do look scrummy :D

Best regards,
Mike.

[ATAG_NakedSquirrel]

It's going to be some time before the Normandy map is worth having. If you buy it for early access, you'll get it in May and still have to download a separate executable (Alpha version) and they still might not have the DM finished for the aircraft. It will take some time for the game to finally be integrated into one executable. So you're not missing out too much in the mean time. :)

[1lokos]

"download a separate executable (Alpha version)" > based on 2.0X = plenty of bugs. :D

[Jugdriver]

I suggest buying content when it goes on sale. They usually have a sale every quarter, and a different bundle every month. You also get the bonus cash for purchasing a product from their site, which can take up to 25% or so off a product.

The sales are the only reason I own or ever got into many of the modules in the first place.

This is all part of their evil plan! I started out as a backer so I am getting all the WWII content for my original backing contribution (which in my opinion I have gotten more than my moneys worth), then of course had to buy the Saber since it is such a cool plane, then bought the Mig 15 on sale (since you cant own the Saber and not own the Mig..) then bought the F-15 on SUPER sale, it was $3.00, how could I say no to that?? I honestly just wanted to fly it around offline since I was never into the modern stuff but then I was hooked. I now have over a dozen modules plus NTTR and CA and I am a full on Jet Junkie! Almost all of it was bought on sale, pre purchse with discount or with reward points.

IMO if you are a fan of WWII combat flight sims you should have them all, DCS, COD, BOS/M or at least as much as you can afford, financial support of the Genre is the only way to ensure the continued development of this stuff. DCS has along way to go with WWII, there are still some serious limitations but the release of the Normandy map and the asset pack is a HUGE step forward!

JD
AKA_MattE

[Hurricane]

Uninstalled it, the control set up menu is completely non intuitive for me.

Tried for two days for it to recognise my Thrustmaster 2 slider control for the throttle.

Sorry guys, must be me.

Mike.

[1lokos]

.. the control set up menu is completely non intuitive for me. :)


Don't worry, people say the same about controls setup in all "flight games" released until today. :D


Tried for two days for it to recognise my Thrustmaster 2 slider control for the throttle.

DCS controls GUI interface has difficult to "see" some controllers axis movement (this happens in IL-2:BoS too), but easy to solve:

Select the axis by name in popup menu, then test/revert/tune in "Axes tune" button.

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Case you decide a "second look". :D

[1lokos]

2x

[Catseye]

Uninstalled it, the control set up menu is completely non intuitive for me.

Tried for two days for it to recognise my Thrustmaster 2 slider control for the throttle.

Sorry guys, must be me.

Mike.

Mike,
Are you referring to DCS 2.x.x alpha version?
If so, it is broken at the moment - particularly reading joystick input for many people.
The Beta version and release version should work just fine.

Cats . . .

[Hurricane]

Hi guys,

v1.5.6 i had installed. Did the whole thing with the slider in the setup menu and the visual depiction shows it moving.

But in game nothing sorry. I did it in the General setup menu for axis and also in the P51D setup.

I find the CLOD way of doing things very easy to setup. Select an option and bang a key. ;)

Best regards, :salute:
Mike.

[Catseye]

Hi guys,

v1.5.6 i had installed. Did the whole thing with the slider in the setup menu and the visual depiction shows it moving.

But in game nothing sorry. I did it in the General setup menu for axis and also in the P51D setup.

I find the CLOD way of doing things very easy to setup. Select an option and bang a key. ;)

Best regards, :salute:
Mike.

This is unusual.
Can you check your devices in the Windows control panel and see if your joystick is being recognized at the Windows level? Is it calibrated OK?

[Hurricane]

Hi Catseye, yes it is all working, both in Win10 and Cliffs Of Dover. :thumbsup:

Best wishes, :salute:
Mike.

[1lokos]

v1.5.6 i had installed. Did the whole thing with the slider in the setup menu and the visual depiction shows it moving.

But in game nothing sorry. I did it in the General setup menu for axis and also in the P51D setup.



Strange, in my DCSW 1.5.6 in Options > General has no option for throttle, nor for set axes.

In TF-51D, notice that are the Game and the Sim, you are setting in the one you choose fly - in Gameplay > Presets?

In Axes tune tick the Slider - means a axis without center position (like rudder).

[Hurricane]

Is throttle not thrust then 1lokos in the settings ?

Does DCS save the user config in an editable file like CLOD buddy, might be easier to set it there.

I better go re-install it then and have another go.

Apologies to everyone, i am being a real muppet today. :(

Best regards, :salute:
Mike.

[Bounder!]

Hi Hurricane, check out this step by step guide for setting controls up in DCS: http://www.aircombatgroup.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=906, there is a video included too.

[Catseye]

Does DCS save the user config in an editable file like CLOD buddy, might be easier to set it there.

Mike.

Mike,
Yes, it saves the config files - check here: C:\Users\YourNameHere\Saved Games

Cheers

ps: After install, make sure to run the module first so that it can create the config folders. Anything you change in the setup GUI is kept in the Saved Games folder.

[Hurricane]

Hi Catseye,

thank you very much sir. I will deffo take your advice.

Much appreciated. :salute:

Best wishes,
Mike.

[Catseye]

Uninstalled it, the control set up menu is completely non intuitive for me.

Tried for two days for it to recognise my Thrustmaster 2 slider control for the throttle.

Sorry guys, must be me.

Mike.

Mike,
Thrustmaster 2? Which stick do you have and do you have to run the Target software with it?

Cheers,
Cats . . .

[1lokos]

TARGET work only for Warthog, Cougar and T.16000M.

Others Thrustmaster joysticks are made by 3rd party OEM using generic electronics and is not compatible with target.

[Hurricane]

Mike,
Thrustmaster 2? Which stick do you have and do you have to run the Target software with it?

Cheers,
Cats . . .

Sorry Catseye, being a total lemon buddy. :doh:

It's a Sidewinder Precision 2, my only excuse is i am completely new to any sort of flight sim and it is the first joystick i have owned. :hide:

Best regards, :salute:
Mike.

[Brennus54]

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[1lokos]

Normandy "1984". :)

http://i68.tinypic.com/29vcdh2.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke4l3pMm8C0

[Hurricane]

Blimey the war has dragged on a bit longer than i thought it would.

When they said it will all be over by christmas. I didn't realise they meant christmas 1984. :roflmao:

Best regards,
Mike.

[Hurricane]

Managed to set my joystick slider control for the P51D throttle.

Total FUBAR on my part, when i tried last time.

So where is this Normandy 1944, bring it on guys. roflmao

Best regards,
Mike.

[RAF74_Buzzsaw]

Is the area he was flying over in the livestream around Caen?

I don't see a lot of hedgerows... but they were generally located further West.

TF is hoping at some point to update our Channel map with real hedgerow type terrain where it should be.

[rel4y]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcU8eMx1vyg

Some perrdy tanks!

[Chivas]

Is the area he was flying over in the livestream around Caen?

I don't see a lot of hedgerows... but they were generally located further West.

TF is hoping at some point to update our Channel map with real hedgerow type terrain where it should be.


Ahh hedgerows the missing link, will be a much needed addition to the terrain.:thumbsup:

[Catseye]

Is the area he was flying over in the livestream around Caen?

I don't see a lot of hedgerows... but they were generally located further West.

TF is hoping at some point to update our Channel map with real hedgerow type terrain where it should be.

I hate to say this but here it is - I've noticed over the years how the developers from DCS (no country named), haven't got a clue about the second world war in reference to Western Europe.

Sadly, it takes a big reaction from the community for them to realize how important certain details are and they are not trivial. For example, I took exception to the fact that there are no RCAF squadrons in place for 1944 and troops on the Normandy Beach landings are referred to as British and did not include Canadians who took a major part in the invasion.

I could go on but it would be useless.

I do hope that TF can make a quick leap in their next update as it has been far too long and many, like myself, have fallen off COD through lack of updates and no apparent way forward. IMHO, shorter time intervals between updates that don't necessarily have to be huge are a great incentive to stay.

But hey, two topics in one.

Looking forward to what the future may bring.

Rant off . . . . . . :)

Cats . . . .

ps. The damage modelling in COD is far, far superior to DCS and the gameplay far exceeds that of DCS. This community could explode should the appropriate path be taken regarding sequencing of upgrades now that the formalities are complete.

I would gladly pay for a Tiffy for example. I miss the sorties that FB had - P-38's, P47's, FW-190's etc.
Lots of room for progression here. :)

[Silver_Dragon]

Jaghpanzer IV and Panzer VI video
https://youtu.be/VksaBUKT0GA

New Normandy WW2 Q&A on Eagle Dynamics FB
https://www.facebook.com/eagle.dynamics/videos/10158646542255341/

[Silver_Dragon]

To the WW2 Kickstarted Backers. Normandy map and Assets pack keys available on the Backers page (if reach the necessary pledge).
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/personal/backer/

some rumours of a close alpha previous to the alpha release late May

[DerDa]

Finally no more Caucasus :)
Just started the game for the first time in many, many month, because of this.
I managed to get the codes for the map and the assets pack but where and how can I donwload and add them to my game?

Sorry for the stupid question :D

Edit:
Oh, I think I finally understood. The keys are available, but not yet the downloads.
Put it down to old age ...

[Vlerkies]

Awesome, can't wait.
:salute:

[Oersted]

Just got this email from the developers:
(Unfortunately I don't have the sim installed atm so I cannot check out the map)

"Dear Kickstarter Backers,

Honoring our commitment to the DCS: World War II Kickstarter backers that contributed $140.00 or more, we are happy to provide you an Alpha look at the DCS: Normandy 1944 Map! The Alpha is a fully, separate build that will function only until the Normandy Map is available for download as an Early Access to all. Once the Early Access version is released, you will be provided new keys, and the map will be integrated into DCS World 2.1 (the Nevada and Normandy maps will share a common version).

The build is available here: [deleted link]

To gain access, please first generate a key from within WWII Backer Rewards section of our website. Then, use this key when prompted the first time you play the Normandy map. You should then be happily flying over the skies of Normandy!

As an Alpha release, please understand that the map is still under construction, and performance optimization is on-going. We do though look forward to your feedback to make the map the best it can be.

We sincerely hope you enjoy this early look at the Normandy map,
The Eagle Dynamics team"

[ATAG_Freya]

I got a key for a 40 pledge?! Maybe its a mistake, and I'll end up paying. Can't say I 'm ready to install another instance just to test anything out though. I hope they hurry and make DCS a 1 install thing. Looking forward to checking out the new stuff..map looks sweet !
:thumbsup:

[DerDa]

I also pledged 40 $.
That gave me two aircraft and now the keys for the map and the assets pack.
The deal is so good I almost feel guilty, even if I did not spend more than two hours with it yet.

[No.401_Wolverine]

I think if you pledged enough to get the map and assets, you gain your keys now, but only the people who pledged at the $140 level or higher will get the alpha download access.

And, yes I agree. I'm not quite ready for 3 installs of DCS. I'll wait until it comes to 2.1.

[Oersted]

Here is a thread with lots of pics, first impressions, etc, etc...
https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=186688

Huey low-level flight over the map:
https://youtu.be/DlHAnrPD0Ng

[Oersted]

And VR!

https://youtu.be/8j6wJOUdxEw?t=371