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BOO
May-13-2017, 04:39
On Saturday 20th May, we are planning our first “Boomer Blitz”. It will be a BLUE event but those of you who fly red normally are welcomed and even encouraged to come and try" a bit of the other" (just remember to leave some fighter pilots at home - you'll need em!)

We will not have the luxury of knowing our target until the very last moment because we are just slotting into the regular server so we must prepare for all eventualities.

Ideally we’d like it if JU88s are taken by whoever can fly them to best maximise of chances of success. However, we know that not everyone will have the experience/confidence required and so 110s and perhaps even some Ju87s will also be available.

9./JG52 have kindly offered to provide fighter escort and I hope we will also be joined by elements of JG4. There is a standing invite to all fighter pilots to join us.

If the raid is level bombing, we will have a master bomber who will assist new bomber pilots with the lofte sight. 110s and 87s will blind drop in co-ordination with the lead 88s through close formation order in such cases.

To best ensure flexibility, we ask that you prepare the loadout for your chosen aircraft PRIOR to the event – this can be done at your leisure in a mission server by setting the load out for the type and spawning in. One done for an aircraft type it should become the default load out unless changed again.

The requested bomb loadout is:

SC types (50, 250, 500) – Low Level Fuses – 14 second delays.

This will ensure that, whatever the mission, we have the flexibility to carry it out.

Also be sure that you have available the means to:

• open bomb-bay doors
• set the drop type
• select the bomb bay
• set series length
• ARM YOUR BOMBS!!

Roistering will commence at 1930 UTC (2030 London Time) with take off at 2000 UTC (2100 London Time).

A coms channel has kindly been set up for us on the main ATAG TS by D-Rock. This is called “Casual BOOmers” and can be found at the start of the squadron lists. We will use this channel for pre raid briefing and then as the main bomber channel for the raid.

No Sign up required. Just be in the TS channel between as soon as you can after 1930 UTC (2030 London Time).

Remember – this is fun – no one is gonna huff and puff if you stuff your 88 on take off or screw the bomb run up. That said, if you have never done this before – trust me – its no soft option. SO, if you are thinking of coming along, get an hour in your aircraft of choice first at least.

Finally – if you can set up your controls for gunner positions do so. Then, even if you are shot down you can hop into another aircraft and be their gunner.

I hope to see you all next Saturday!

S!

BOO

Dai-San
May-13-2017, 05:28
Looking forward to this and will join in IF I can ever get one of these damn things to fly for more than 5 mins without the damn engine seizing.

BOO
May-13-2017, 05:34
Hopefully on the night there will be a "pro" who can call out the settings to help. But keeping all the dials around the green line (obviously) plays it safe.

Look forward to flying with you!

PS - if you want to link up for a bit of pre event practice just pm me.

9./JG52 gr00ve
May-13-2017, 05:48
where will this event take place? regular or bomber server? what will be mission lenght?
what models of 109's and 110's will be available?

anyways...

9./JG52 - 6x109 (or 4x109 + 2x 110) for escort and general pita for red side

BOO
May-13-2017, 05:53
where will this event take place? regular or bomber server? what will be mission lenght?
what models of 109's and 110's will be available?

anyways...

9./JG52 - 6x109 (or 4x109 + 2x 110) for escort and general pita for red side



Main ATAG AvA Server
Two hour time slot - 1 hour approx. flight (at the mercy of the server)
Whatever the server gives us.

9./JG52_Meyer
May-13-2017, 06:26
Thank you and well done Boo in setting this up , hopefully a lot of people will take part and it can be a more regular event

Hals und beinbruch

BOO
May-13-2017, 06:44
Thank you and well done Boo in setting this up , hopefully a lot of people will take part and it can be a more regular event

Hals und beinbruch

I know we are at the mercy of the server with stuff like maps, targets, plane sets and even server slots but I think its the best way to muster participation without any special allowance.

I just hope everyone else bears us in mind and doesn't take out a target we are on route to. Ive been trying to gather up the intel on where AI raids go in case they are ordered so we can pick targets that are not on their list but given the number of maps and targets its a task. I'm hoping the experience of regular bomber pilots will come to the fore with a "lets go here by this route".

I'm certain we will have lots of opportunity no matter what.

JG4_Thorwald
May-13-2017, 07:10
@ BooDog: 9./JG52 have kindly offered to provide fighter escort and I hope we will also be joined by elements of JG4.

Well, I can not speak for the whole JG4, but i think you WILL be joined by JG4, in whatever role, and in any number..
cu in the air, and thanks for the effort..

TWC_Mackers
May-13-2017, 07:23
Looking forward to this and will join in IF I can ever get one of these damn things to fly for more than 5 mins without the damn engine seizing.

I know that feeling.

If you remove the front gun (Change the loadout so nose gun is 'empty') you can see the 'ATA' dials clearly. Past a certain altitude, it's important to watch these.

I'm still learning the Ju88 myself - I think it gets upset past a certain altitude if these pass 1.3 ish.

JG4_Thorwald
May-13-2017, 07:28
I know that feeling.

If you remove the front gun (Change the loadout so nose gun is 'empty') you can see the 'ATA' dials clearly. Past a certain altitude, it's important to watch these.

I'm still learning the Ju88 myself - I think it gets upset past a certain altitude if these pass 1.3 ish.

You can also make the MG different and move it from the front gunner position, then you see the instruments also sufficiently. And you have the advantage that you can see better from the front gunner's position forward and can move the angle of your sight ... And don't go much too long on orange mode ...

BOO
May-13-2017, 07:28
I'm still learning the Ju88 myself - I think it gets upset past a certain altitude if these pass 1.3 ish.

most things get upset past a certain altitude if the ATA passes 1.3 for any length of time!

TWC_Mackers
May-13-2017, 08:01
most things get upset past a certain altitude if the ATA passes 1.3 for any length of time!

I only found out it was pressure today chap. :thumbsup:

I don't normally fly blue stuffs. :doh:

BOO
May-13-2017, 08:24
I only found out it was pressure today chap. :thumbsup:

I don't normally fly blue stuffs. :doh:

My magic numbers of a bust free (if slightly slower) flight are 1.1 ata and 2100-2200 rpm. You can go higher for periods of time nad hight alts but hey, why the rush Mr Hare, sit back and enjoy the complete absence of a view despite sittin in a greenhouse and twiddle with the lofte. :-)

DRock
May-13-2017, 08:44
Awesome stuff, Boo. Great work.:thumbsup:

I'm in. Awaiting orders, Sir.:salute:

BOO
May-13-2017, 08:55
Awesome stuff, Boo. Great work.:thumbsup:

I'm in. Awaiting orders, Sir.:salute:

As the first person I ever heard on TS (and the first person to shoot me down) its an honour to have you along D-Rock - thanks for the support and the TS set up!

Dai-San
May-14-2017, 07:38
So, I have all the controls setup and seem to be able to take off, land and even fly the thing (occasionally) without blowing the engines up but the bombing is beyond me (and I'm sure for a few other) so far.

I would love to setup a time (Before the event) for someone to take me (and any others who want to) through the actual bombing process. Navigation is not an issue as we will be in formation and I'll just follow the pack but I've never flown ANY Axis planes and a Blennie bombing is easy compared to this (no select bay, select series, select which underpants to wear etc).

Anyone willing to step up and set a time for a bit of instruction?

BOO
May-14-2017, 07:54
So, I have all the controls setup and seem to be able to take off, land and even fly the thing (occasionally) without blowing the engines up but the bombing is beyond me (and I'm sure for a few other) so far.

I would love to setup a time (Before the event) for someone to take me (and any others who want to) through the actual bombing process. Navigation is not an issue as we will be in formation and I'll just follow the pack but I've never flown ANY Axis planes and a Blennie bombing is easy compared to this (no select bay, select series, select which underpants to wear etc).

Anyone willing to step up and set a time for a bit of instruction?

I'm happy to take you though the basics but I'm no Hanseat! when are you about?

For next week I wouldnt worry to much - as long as you can set the lofte altitude, speed and slew whilst flying its good enough. If we level bomb we will have a master bomber who will tell you what to dial in and where you crosshairs should be for release.

This is a good starting point

https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/utils/lotfe7.html

to help calculate stuff quickly but only tends to be good for airfields. For things like RDF I used to refer to real OS maps for target height and whilst it seemed to work most of the time it could just as much been luck. There's a lot of differing experience out there about what works best but something does cos some of those 88s can hit a pickle jar from 5K.

DRock
May-18-2017, 10:35
If you are flying a bomber, get your skills honed. This is gonna be fun.:thumbsup:


Please use a touch of brevity when on TS. Boosterdog has priority on comms.

These raids work best with one Chief, and the rest Indians. Be willing to follow orders without question.


If you need still need help with the 88, give me a PM.

Another good source of info for all bombers is ATAG_Torric. He's a CoD encyclopedia, and always willing to help.


See you there.:salute:

ATAG_yotheguy
May-18-2017, 12:16
Maybe I can come as someones gunner.:joystick:

BOO
May-18-2017, 12:22
Maybe I can come as someones gunner.:joystick:

You can be my gunner/Bombardier/ map reader and in flight attendant any time Yo!

ATAG_Highseas
May-18-2017, 12:25
Meh

pretty sure I'm not going to be able to make this.

Meh meh meh


EDIT
Please don't bomb Shoreham

ATAG_Freya
May-18-2017, 12:42
Change of plan: We are now bombing Shoreham, over and over and over....

ATAG_Highseas
May-18-2017, 12:49
Change of plan: We are now bombing Shoreham, over and over and over....

Curses !!

A plague be upon you all you dastardly curs

BOO
May-18-2017, 12:53
"curs" LOL - I bet that has NEVER been seen on here before!

ATAG_yotheguy
May-18-2017, 13:15
Curses !!

A plague be upon you all you dastardly curs
roflmao

28247

tgif
May-18-2017, 19:15
"curs" LOL - I bet that has NEVER been seen on here before!



when ever I get letters it says that I thought it meant SIRS

BOO
May-18-2017, 19:55
when ever I get letters it says that I thought it meant SIRS

forgive me tgif if I misunderstand but to clarify

"curs" or a "cur" is an obscure English expression usually meanng mangy or otherwise aggressive and unkempt mongrel dog that's (very rarely, outside of Brighton) sometimes used to call into question a person's character. Think "you dog" but add maybe a skin condition and dysfunctional personality into the mix. Its actually just a term for mongrel or cross breed but its meaning has been added to over time when used as an insult.

In popular culture its a phrase that I would imagine even Dickens thought old fashioned but would have likely come back into fashion during the inter war years due to the popular writing of people like PG Wodehouse et al.

To use it properly one must first be a part of the Upper Class but have no visible means of independent income, dress in plus fours or a blazer, smoke a lot and, most importantly possess a male friend with a doubled barrelled surname who you call "squiffy" or similar.

Without these social pre-requisites (for instance if it were said by a docksman or factory worker) the insult would seem out of place and ridiculous.

With it - although ludicrously pompous - it fits a stereotype that is both loved and reviled by the common Englishman and oddly one even the lowliest of us (me) often revert to when being "archetypally English", either for our own amusement or to help reinforce the prejudicial imaginings of the descendants of our former colonies about our general culture.


hope this helps :-)

DerDa
May-19-2017, 01:31
It's just incredible what you can learn by playing flight sims :):):)

ATAG_Highseas
May-19-2017, 02:52
:)

BOO
May-19-2017, 03:27
when ever I get letters it says that I thought it meant SIRS

reading this non bleary eyes - I did get it wrong - sorry tgif

ATAG_Highseas
May-19-2017, 05:56
reading this non bleary eyes - I did get it wrong - sorry tgif

Nope....



To use it properly one must first be a part of the Upper Class but have no visible means of independent income, dress in plus fours or a blazer, smoke a lot and, most importantly possess a male friend with a doubled barrelled surname who you call "squiffy" or similar.

I think you pretty much nailed it old chap.

What ho !!

BOO
May-19-2017, 06:12
just dug out my copy of Decline and Fall :-)

MezzA
May-19-2017, 07:31
count me in.. tho im having to get use to my new stick and peddles

BOO
May-19-2017, 09:07
Hello everyone

Well its just over a day to go so id thought id put a few words down in case a don't get chance again.

I'm gonna do my level best tomorrow to provide an interesting and fun event. I'm no bomber experten but I will be very ably assisted (so if I saw one thing then change me mind - you know I've been "whispered to!!). none of this would be happening without Drock, Freya, Pan-Tast, DUI and Meyer's help so THANKS CHAPS

If you have never flown in a large formation of big aircraft before, its a real buzz. But its also something that takes a little concentration so please make sure you know the basics and have the key bindings set for your ride of choice.. We are going to be busy on coms tomorrow so its going to be a real PITA talking someone through where the fuel cocks are on an 88 or how to set the AP in a 110.

Please also set your load outs BEFORE THE EVENT - 110s can take either SC250s or SC500s BUT you will need fuel for at least 90 mins of flight so make sure you can handle a fat duck if you intend taking the big stuff.... 88s will take 4x SC250 under the wings and 28 SC50s internally. FUSES WILL BE C50(25) LOW LEVEL with a 14 sec delay. This gives us the maximum flexibility whether we go high or low.

I do not know what the map will be so this may necessitate taking off from different airfields in different types. - if this is the case, don't worry, we will sort out the best way to do it.

Numbers is another issue - I don't know what the turn out will be but if we are up in numbers you will need to listen out of take off instructions. If you stuff the kite on take off, spawn out and leave the aircraft asap so it doesn't clog up the field any longer than it has to.

I personally do not record missions or keep track files - if you do, please do - we may well have someone who can put together something and of course your own videos would be great to watch!!

Finally..

If you are a fighter and reading this - look out for us - the reds know we are coming so we are going to need you for sure! Its likely we will keep the blue side informed using Chat.

OK - Good luck everyone and lets have fun!

Out - BOO

JENDAR
May-19-2017, 10:31
I am more of a bomber guy than anything else. I missed the RAF one but so in for this tomorrow..IM IN THE EAST COAST OF US. So in for it can I fly the 1-11 as well as the other A/C

Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk

Cassius
May-19-2017, 14:24
Well done! :thumbsup:
We are in, and increase number of bombers how much we can.
I hope that some pilots from our community will connect to Red side and try to stop blue invasion :)

BOO
May-19-2017, 17:21
Well done! :thumbsup:
We are in, and increase number of bombers how much we can.
I hope that some pilots from our community will connect to Red side and try to stop blue invasion :)

Thank you Cassius!! See you tomorrow!

ATAG_Flare
May-19-2017, 22:15
I will try and show up to fly a Spitty to defend against this hideous onslaught.

I'll be taking off and patrolling near Shoreham.

JG4_Thorwald
May-20-2017, 04:29
Hello everyone

...88s will take 4x SC250 under the wings and 18 SC50s internally...



Sry Boo - can it be that you mean 28 SC50? 18 are in the first bomb bay, 10 in the second...

BTW.: JG4 will probably be in with 7+ pilots ... (hope so - but it's looking good):salute:

BOO
May-20-2017, 04:36
Sry Boo - can it be that you mean 28 SC50? 18 are in the first bomb bay, 10 in the second...

BTW.: JG4 will probably be in with 7+ pilots ... (hope so - but it's looking good):salute:

OOOOOPS!! Post being corrected now!

That's great Thorwald!!

Thanks for pointing out the error

ATAG_Marlow
May-20-2017, 06:02
Hi Chaps.....just a quick line to apologise for missing Boo's marvellous show tonight. Needless to say, I'm gutted but it's all in a good cause.
I was dropped by parachute from an SOE Halifax last Monday on a special mission to check out the specs of some new haylofts that are coming on line in TF 5. You know the sort of stuff: vital statistics, blonde, brunette or red head, king size or water, draught or bottled.

Perhaps, I should mention we have been unable to source Highsea's request for '48...24...36, belly dancer, extra large!' Sorry, Seas....right out of stock!
I shall be de briefed by Trip Advisor after my return on Monday.

One request from me. I won't be there tonight to shoot down Miles and TGIF MAS so could somebody else oblige? Thanks, in advance!

Good luck tonight, Chaps! I hope it goes well, Boo! Salute All! :)

BOO
May-20-2017, 08:37
Hi Chaps.....just a quick line to apologise for missing Boo's marvellous show tonight. Needless to say, I'm gutted but it's all in a good cause.
I was dropped by parachute from an SOE Halifax last Monday on a special mission to check out the specs of some new haylofts that are coming on line in TF 5. You know the sort of stuff: vital statistics, blonde, brunette or red head, king size or water, draught or bottled.

Perhaps, I should mention we have been unable to source Highsea's request for '48...24...36, belly dancer, extra large!' Sorry, Seas....right out of stock!
I shall be de briefed by Trip Advisor after my return on Monday.

One request from me. I won't be there tonight to shoot down Miles and TGIF MAS so could somebody else oblige? Thanks, in advance!

Good luck tonight, Chaps! I hope it goes well, Boo! Salute All! :)

Nice post Marlow and Thank you!!

You'll be missed - unlike your infrastructure!! :-)

S!

BOO

ACG_Rob
May-20-2017, 12:03
Are there any plans for the Reds response?

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Bonditaria
May-20-2017, 14:14
Are there any plans for the Reds response?

The Red response will be

as well planned

as any Red response

has ever been...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2gLuifcsQVk/UqxyW5eDYlI/AAAAAAAAAUg/I2gvD11u2_8/s1600/doomed.jpg

DUI
May-20-2017, 19:01
Thank you very much for the organization of this event! Beautiful impressions of a huge bomber formation! :photographer:

And excuses that we were not able to protect you in the first sortie.

BOO
May-20-2017, 19:30
To everyone who turned up to Bomb or escort. THANK YOU!! I hope you felt it was worth it.

I'm not great bomber leader or greatly experienced so I apologise for the first raid debacle! I will do better next time! - Still - 20 88s in the same place was something to see and you gotta admit it - that first dawn dispersal felt like the real deal with all the activity!

To 9./JG52, the fighters of JG4, Freya, Hanseat, DUI, Pantast, TGIF, DRock and Yo a very special thanks from me too.

I hope many of you join us again - lessons will be learned - next time its the Blenni Bites Back!

S!

BOO

ATAG_Colander
May-20-2017, 19:43
Videos???

BOO
May-20-2017, 19:44
Videos???

Some recording were done by a number of players - pretty sure they will show up soon!!!!

PreyStalker
May-20-2017, 20:03
To everyone who turned up to Bomb or escort. THANK YOU!! I hope you felt it was worth it.

I'm not great bomber leader or greatly experienced so I apologise for the first raid debacle! I will do better next time! - Still - 20 88s in the same place was something to see and you gotta admit it - that first dawn dispersal felt like the real deal with all the activity!

To 9./JG52, the fighters of JG4, Freya, Hanseat, DUI, Pantast, TGIF, DRock and Yo a very special thanks from me too.

I hope many of you join us again - lessons will be learned - next time its the Blenni Bites Back!

S!

BOO

It was awesome Boo !!!

First time I've participated in anything like this and it was a blast. Loved it.

We all took off safely, we were all heading nicely to the target, that's about all you can hope to control as the leader.

Well done to you for getting the rabble organised and on it's way. We made it as far as enemy soil at least.

And yes, it was an impressive sight to see, from everyone's view point. Can't wait to see some screenshots

Great job !

:thumbsup:

RAF74_Buzzsaw
May-20-2017, 20:52
Just to let the long suffering bomber guys know:

In TF 4.5, the bombers will be more durable... and have better AI gunners. (human flown)

So your chances of survival in these types of events will be higher. :salute:

ATAG_Flare
May-20-2017, 22:13
It was awesome!

Leading the formation of Spitfires diving in on your first raid was an amazing experience. It felt like the real Battle of Britain, as we said "Tally-Ho! Forty-plus bandits! That formation is MASSIVE!" and went right in head on! (It really was more like twenty but it seemed so big!)

If only I didn't crash a few minutes later trying to attack another 88! I was just so excited and had so much speed.

I will post a video on Monday probably, I have the first and second raid on track files, and the first raid on shadowplay. Sadly I missed intercepting the second raid as I was nursing a battered Hurricane back to base with only rudder control and elevator trim on one side. JG4 eventually knocked me out of the sky before I could reach Selsey point.

ATAG_kiwiflieger
May-21-2017, 00:40
20 88s in the same place
Would have been 21 bombers if I'd been able to get on but internet was down due to circumstances outside my control (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/92809718/part-of-alternative-highway-through-south-island-closed-after-serious-truck-crash)... :(

Sounds like you guys had a great time and I can't wait for the next one! :salute:

ATAG_yotheguy
May-21-2017, 02:34
Videos???
I have not checked if any of my recordings worked yet, so we will see.

I had to leave just before the #2 landing, but it was still a bunch of fun riding in the back.

On the first run I was in Boo's 88 with all the others just behind him. :photographer:

Thanks Boo, and everyone

ps. thanks ts mute button. ;)

ATAG_Vortex
May-21-2017, 04:47
~S~!

What an awesome evening, thank you so much Boosterdog for arranging it!

Seeing you guys come in across the channel was an amazing night believe me and then chasing you across southern England was heart racing!

I had the dreaded launcher crash as you came in on the second run, could hear it all going off on TS and couldn't get back in the server in time, frustrating to say the least!

Here's to the next one!

Turan87
May-21-2017, 06:15
Thanks for organising guys, it was the most fun I've had getting shot down.:-)

Looking forward to the next one

9./JG52_Meyer
May-21-2017, 07:17
Looks like it was a great event, well done BOO in organising it. Sorry I couldn't attend due to a family crisis that occurred earlier that day.
Anyway well done to all that did attend . 9./JG52 will support any organised event and we look forward to the next one.

Hals und beinbruch

DRock
May-21-2017, 07:36
@Meyer. Hope everything is ok with your family.


_________________

Great leadership, Boo.:salute:

Really good flying to all our 88s, too. I'm just amazed we got everyone off the ground, and together.

A few more sorties and we're gonna look like pros out there.


Thanks to everyone who participated.:thumbsup:

9./JG52_Meyer
May-21-2017, 08:52
Thanks D , it's not as bad as we thought . But he's not out of the woods yet time will tell I suppose.
Thanks for your kind words mate

Hals und beinbruch

BOO
May-21-2017, 09:39
@ Meyer - great to hear - in my thoughts


@ the rest of you - great screenies here from Rostic. Thanks for posting!!

https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22298&p=267090#post267090

Cassius
May-21-2017, 11:28
Just want to say a Big Thanks for Boo, that he took that on his own.
Who think it is no hard let's try to do it youself.
I just want to ask ATAG admins, to give us more available chance to organize something events.
We have a lot of pilots who will want to take a part in, but we have not a place for it.
Because tryin to make a huge bombers sortie in 10 min, after map was changed it is nonsense.
Here (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8nkkjjOGHoMeC02SmhjVVhiajg) is a on external views track of 1st Sortie

DRock
May-21-2017, 11:47
Just want to say a Big Thanks for Boo, that he took that on his own.
Who think it is no hard let's try to do it youself.
I just want to ask ATAG admins, to give us more available chance to organize something events.
We have a lot of pilots who will want to take a part in, but we have not a place for it.
Because tryin to make a huge bombers sortie in 10 min, after map was changed it is nonsense.

Hi Cassius.

In my experiences, ATAG members are always willing to assist. They love this stuff.

I'm not sure what you mean by, "giving us more available chance to organize". ATAG has given us all the chance to make "something" happen.

Boosterdog organized this himself, used ATAG website to collect pilots, then he lead the pilots on the server 1 on the map in rotation. The only thing admin did was give him a TS channel. Nothing else was needed from ATAG.

ATAG's server 1 is a sandbox. You get out what you put into it. It allows for creativity, and has all the right tools to make big formations.

JG4, 52, 71st, and many other squads launch these attacks periodically.


Looking forward to the next one.

:salute:

BOO
May-21-2017, 12:07
Just want to say a Big Thanks for Boo, that he took that on his own.
Who think it is no hard let's try to do it youself.
I just want to ask ATAG admins, to give us more available chance to organize something events.
We have a lot of pilots who will want to take a part in, but we have not a place for it.
Because tryin to make a huge bombers sortie in 10 min, after map was changed it is nonsense.
Here (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8nkkjjOGHoMeC02SmhjVVhiajg) is a on external views track of 1st Sortie

Thank You Cassius for your kind words.

I think a lot of the "rush" is really at my feet. We had a full 4 hour server with no risk of AI and I think we could have spent more time in the planning. I just didn't want people feeling that their flying time was being wasted - if in future the event comes with this caveat then maybe we can better plan.

One of the keys thing for me is that things like this do not have any quarter given. Whilst persistent campaign servers like SOW give us time to plan, the reality is that we have 10(?) missions in random rotation on ATAG. For me, its always play what we are given. The server flip was on time. I think all I can ask of ATAG is to assist in this in the lead up - which they did.

BUT

These are 10 mission we fly a lot so it is possible, with the knowledge and experience of us bomber pilots, to build up a resource of potential missions per map I think (over time). so when the server comes up we can say "I have a plan for this" and we go for it. I'm happy to organise all this but its not MY event - its everyones, including the players facing us.

So, One thing I didn't do was ask anyone - "So - who knows this map" then use that experience. I also underestimated the ability present and went low level with no real reason. Ill learn from these lessons and it'll be better next time!!

S! and thank you again your support (and Rostics and all the other guys you encouraged to join!!)

BOO

ATAG_Flare
May-21-2017, 12:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwXKGnxbBLk&feature=youtu.be

Here's a short clip of the first intercept. (Including my embarrassing crash!) A cinematic version will come tonight.

Some screenies here: http://imgur.com/a/aGMTP

ATAG_Flare
May-21-2017, 12:26
Just want to say a Big Thanks for Boo, that he took that on his own.
Who think it is no hard let's try to do it youself.
I just want to ask ATAG admins, to give us more available chance to organize something events.
We have a lot of pilots who will want to take a part in, but we have not a place for it.
Because tryin to make a huge bombers sortie in 10 min, after map was changed it is nonsense.
Here (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8nkkjjOGHoMeC02SmhjVVhiajg) is a on external views track of 1st Sortie

Cassius do you mind if I use your track file in a video? My track file only has a few minutes with the bombers before my plane goes out of range or dies and the bombers disappear from the track file.

Cassius
May-21-2017, 13:07
Hi Cassius.

In my experiences, ATAG members are always willing to assist. They love this stuff.

I'm not sure what you mean by, "giving us more available chance to organize". ATAG has given us all the chance to make "something" happen.

Boosterdog organized this himself, used ATAG website to collect pilots, then he lead the pilots on the server 1 on the map in rotation. The only thing admin did was give him a TS channel. Nothing else was needed from ATAG.

ATAG's server 1 is a sandbox. You get out what you put into it. It allows for creativity, and has all the right tools to make big formations.

JG4, 52, 71st, and many other squads launch these attacks periodically.


Looking forward to the next one.

:salute:

I full agree with it. And Thanks ATAG Team we have that opportunities here. But I want a little bit more. Some like a full 2-3 hour Event, with a good planing before and nice fun action for both sides after realise mission. Any way we are in.


Cassius do you mind if I use your track file in a video? My track file only has a few minutes with the bombers before my plane goes out of range or dies and the bombers disappear from the track file.
Of course! I posted it for all using.:thumbsup:

ATAG_Highseas
May-21-2017, 14:37
Really gutted I missed the event.

My cockpit is in a hanger that looks a lot like a living room.

and that rather means that getting on comms is difficult at certain times since the plane ends up full of passengers... and they all want a snack... or a drink... or a new inflight movie.


Very distracting for a combat pilot.


(sadface)

exocet72
May-21-2017, 16:59
Thank's
Boo for a great evenings entertainment even though my joystick packed up after entering the server had great fun jumping in mezza's plane and flying as rear gunner.
Problems was when the spits attacked had no control over the gunner position either, so could do little about the spit that made us leak from both engines, but was an awesome sight seeing the next spit blow up after a 109 took him out before he could land a killer bvlow on us.

BTW thats the reason I was doing donughts on the taxiway :(

can't wait for the next one again thanks to all that organised this.

BOO
May-21-2017, 18:06
I full agree with it. And Thanks ATAG Team we have that opportunities here. But I want a little bit more. Some like a full 2-3 hour Event, with a good planing before and nice fun action for both sides after realise mission. Any way we are in.


Of course! I posted it for all using.:thumbsup:

We can have all this Cassius this but last night was very much about giving players a little slice of sky where perhaps it felt like it did in 1940. Hurris chasing 88s and being chased by 109s. Chaos.

I'm saying now that the next one will likely be the same. but after that? who knows......

We can plan for anything IF all assigned have the patience to wait patiently. A mission is 4 hours so there is lots of time. So we can do a "serious" event where we agree its about tactics and we can also do a "cinematic" event where we agree its about the vibe and just go for it.

But unless someone writes the script we are left with what server 1 gives us on its turn. And I like that because there is always a lot to do.

I left it loose last night because I didn't want to be elitist or over tax new bombers (me included).

BUT, know what~?

everyone who turned up was on their game. More than I anticipated. We could have done anything with our group! S!

So perhaps we could have sat down and planned more. And let the opposition do the same. Our brains v theirs.

I know last night we laid it on a plate for the RAF in many ways and ill take that as my fault- NDFs was probably the toughest bomber map in rotation - its the one map I didn't want and I snapped judged. . I knew with all the publicity we'd be in the light but hmmm - so what - I see a lot of good will for what we did. Its not just about the bombers after all.

But it wont always be this way. If can build a bomber core with the pros and enthusiasts here - we can do much more. And this I where I am personally going with this. Something where all that slog pays off with tactics, regardless of side.

I don't want to be dog meat every event but equally I'm not going to try and contrive sneak around events like radar never existed. There must always be an in and a foil.

So no special events from me. Even this one has exhausted me and its nothing special. We use what we are given and who we have.

S!

BOO

PreyStalker
May-22-2017, 09:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwXKGnxbBLk&feature=youtu.be

Here's a short clip of the first intercept. (Including my embarrassing crash!)

" I crashed into the sea !!! "
" Oh my, how embarrassing ! "

:glaughter:roflmao:bravo:

Big thank you Flare for posting this. It gets funnier every time I hear those lines.

Not sure what tickles me most, the style and grace with which you spontaneously roll and flop into the water, or the understated response to an epic FAIL.

Hats off to you for being a good sport and sharing it for all to see. We've all had one of those moments, I'm sure.

:thumbsup:

TWC_Mackers
May-22-2017, 10:07
Thanks to everyone who participated, those who helped as guides, those who keep the servers running.

This truely was a great event, a full load test for the server and a huge amount of funzies for all !

A special personal thanks to Boo, Drock and Hanseat - you guys are true saints. I mean everyone is nice here, but you guys stood out for me as extra shiny people on this night. Plus having Hanseats accent really made it feel superb.

I feel having the 'unknown elements' of which map, which fields and which aircraft and which targets added extra anticipation for me - I've played Il2 since sturmovic and this by far was/is my greatest 'public' event.

I hope mission makers adjust the spawns alittle if they change the wind-direction on a particular mission map - so that the spawns are grouped at the right ends of the runway - for that particular mission.

That was the only niggle I had (and a minor niggle it was) - not that i'm blaming them - I doubt any mission makers plan for 20+ jumping on any field at the same time. Some fields are probably not designed for that many either hehe - imagine 20 blennies taking off from Canterbury :recon:

Thus, my only suggestion is that atleast one airbase, prefferably at the rear, is setup for a community bomber events with the spawns focused at the right end of the runway for 20-30 bombers. I totally accept that there could still be problems with spawns, but one base per side would/could reduce some of the forming issues/entertainment/whoopsies.

However, that said - it was awesome to watch the blob form, while in a pattern around the field, over my left wing.

I cannot stress enough, the enjoyment had, the great memory formed and the wonderful moments we all shared. I simply salute you all - friend, foe and admin...

Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duty, and so bear ourselves that if the ATAG community and Team Fusion lasts for a thousand years, men will still say,

'This was their finest hour' !

Cheers Boo, it was great chap :salute:

Karaya
May-23-2017, 05:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WOPMAX3r4w

Here's my contribution to the video footage of the event. Video/Gameplay may show signs of lag when the bombers are first engaged near the coast, nothing I can/could do anything about. It was to be expected with the number of aircraft present in such a small part of the map.