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ATAG_Bliss
Jan-20-2013, 18:58
Here's some more WIP contrail pics. All shots taken by Mysticpuma - There might even be a little video soon.

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/1874/contrails180aircraft.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/contrails180aircraft.jpg/)

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9910/contrails280aircraft.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/690/contrails280aircraft.jpg/)

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7781/contrails380aircraft.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/contrails380aircraft.jpg/)

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/3742/contrails480aircraft.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/contrails480aircraft.jpg/)

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1362/contrails580aircraft.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/248/contrails580aircraft.jpg/)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/733/contrails680aircraft.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/contrails680aircraft.jpg/)

http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/8031/contrails780aircraft.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/547/contrails780aircraft.jpg/)

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/260/contrails880aircraft.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/contrails880aircraft.jpg/)

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/3664/contrails980aircraft.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/593/contrails980aircraft.jpg/)

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/848/contrails1080aircraft.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/688/contrails1080aircraft.jpg/)

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4683/contrails1180aircraft.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/contrails1180aircraft.jpg/)

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3914/contrails1280aircraft.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/338/contrails1280aircraft.jpg/)

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/6034/contrails1380aircraft.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/contrails1380aircraft.jpg/)

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5642/contrails1480aircraft.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/contrails1480aircraft.jpg/)

Oersted
Jan-20-2013, 19:27
Looks great, but are the contrails maybe lasting a wee bit too long? - It looks like a spaghetti bowl :-)

Look forward to seeing the vid, thanks for the work! - Can't wait to fly with contrails like that...

ATAG_Bliss
Jan-20-2013, 19:29
They actually don't last long at all, but there were 70 planes up there - makes a lot of trails :)

thee_oddball
Jan-20-2013, 19:46
bliss are you making you own clouds? :D

92 Cdt. Kiwikillemoff (QJ-Z)
Jan-20-2013, 20:18
Whats this I see??? Catastrophic failure? Mid-air explosion? Oh please let it be. :-)

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II/JG53_TarJak
Jan-20-2013, 20:36
Very nice work.

ATAG_Snapper
Jan-20-2013, 23:26
WOW!!!!! :stunned:

CptJackSparrow
Jan-21-2013, 03:14
Epic! =)

Gorgon14
Jan-21-2013, 05:45
:salute:

XE9O
Jan-21-2013, 06:18
Nice

il_corleone
Jan-21-2013, 07:44
Outstanding work!

-Sven-
Jan-21-2013, 10:05
Immersion lvl over 9000!

Awesome!

KDN
Jan-21-2013, 11:05
:flying:
:lolol:

Thank you

ATAG_Bliss
Jan-21-2013, 14:31
Whats this I see??? Catastrophic failure? Mid-air explosion? Oh please let it be. :-)

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Yeppers - It looked to be a little crowded up there!

GRAF
Jan-21-2013, 21:59
Damn I'm glad I've stuck with CLOD. :D

Chivas
Jan-21-2013, 23:12
Excellent..."Team Fusion"....hopefully we will be looking forward to many years of improvements and new content. :thumbsup:

We will probably never know why the COD developers failed to deliver in a timely manor, and it annoys me to hear people trash the developer while praising modders. "Team Fusion" would have nothing to mod if it weren't for the developers, and I'm sure the "Team Fusion" modders like most modders respect the amount of work done by the developer.

RAF74_Buzzsaw
Jan-22-2013, 00:01
I'm sure the "Team Fusion" modders like most modders respect the amount of work done by the developer.

We believe this game engine is the most advanced and farsighted flight simulation code ever done. We salute Oleg Maddox for his original vision. He is THE genius of Flight Simming. :salute:

We are only trying to improve on the foundation. We have no argument to pick with those on the development team.

Salmo
Jan-22-2013, 02:41
<snip> ... I'm sure the "Team Fusion" modders like most modders respect the amount of work done by the developer.

To paraphrase Sir Isaac Newton, if Team Fusion has seen farther than others it is only because they've stood on the shoulders of giants. Oleg, Ilyia & the development team are greatly respected for the advanced game engine & their far-sighted vision of what a PC flight simulation could be like.

bisher
Jan-22-2013, 11:57
Looks great.

Mastiff
Jan-23-2013, 10:13
ok I saw a thread on the weather effects for clouds was working can some one point me into that direction again..

Tte. Costa
Jan-23-2013, 11:55
Great work gents.
Are they gonna be visible from ground?
Tx Costa

Blitzen
Jan-23-2013, 12:29
Aces!:thumbsup:

III./ZG76_Keller
Jan-23-2013, 16:26
Great work gents.
Are they gonna be visible from ground?
Tx Costa

A shot taken from the ground in SP; bombers at 7200m.

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Continu0
Jan-23-2013, 16:58
Did you change something about the dot-load-Distance?

I don`t think that I get the dots loaded at 7km....???


Looks good anyway, can`t wait:-)
The retextured high-altitude-clouds look fantastic!

ATAG_Snapper
Jan-23-2013, 16:59
A shot taken from the ground in SP; bombers at 7200m.

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That is freaking AWESOME! Thanks for the peek! :thumbsup:

III./ZG76_Keller
Jan-23-2013, 17:08
Did you change something about the dot-load-Distance?

I don`t think that I get the dots loaded at 7km....???


Looks good anyway, can`t wait:-)
The retextured high-altitude-clouds look fantastic!

Didn't change anything. Even in the Steam release you should easily see dots at 7km away.

One thing to note though, there is a "cone-of-visibility" to this; the contrails started to diasppear just after the screenshot was taken.

ATAG_Colander
Jan-23-2013, 17:13
So, who's planning to look at the action from the ground? :)

ATAG_Snapper
Jan-23-2013, 17:44
So, who's planning to look at the action from the ground? :)

I just know that with my lousy luck and even poorer timing, I'll be sitting in my Spit cockpit at Hawkinge doing the 2.5 minute <rr and looking up at those high contrails fast approaching! LOL

Tte. Costa
Jan-23-2013, 19:04
A shot taken from the ground in SP; bombers at 7200m.

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Great! Tx

:thumbsup:

LG1.Farber
Jan-23-2013, 20:26
So will con trails just appear after say 6000 metres automatically? Surely it depends on the humidity to cause such things, not just altitude?

Salmo
Jan-23-2013, 21:08
So will con trails just appear after say 6000 metres automatically? Surely it depends on the humidity to cause such things, not just altitude?

Game testing shows that contails commence at slightly variable heights but generally at around 20,000 (6,000m) - 22,000ft (6,700m). Maps have a set temperature (ASL), but I'm not aware of humidity being modeled in-game.

LG1.Farber
Jan-23-2013, 21:43
Interesting. Thanks.

Roblex
Jan-24-2013, 02:11
I wonder if we will ever actually see this 'aerial spaghetti' when we rarely saw anyone flying high enough to cause them in IL2 :-)

I remember once my squad decided to do a very high alt multi- bomber raid with fighter escort and the other players were posting about how cool it looked as if they did not realise it was even in the game until then or at least had never seen a formation at that altitude.

I am looking forward to those lurking high alt 109s being easier to see (though it looks like we might have high alt spits soon as well!)

ATAG_Snapper
Jan-24-2013, 02:22
Were aircraft able to fly at high altitudes with historic performance in IL2? Certainly the Cliffs of Dover aircraft currently do not, but the upcoming patch will change all that. The fight will move higher to historically accurate altitudes now - both fighters and bombers. Dogfights will now be possible without aircraft wallowing at 23 angels, and yes, contrails will be generated at these altitudes. Personally, I find this prospect very exciting and not odd at all.

III./ZG76_Keller
Jan-24-2013, 02:48
I will live at 9000m+ in my 109.

LcSummers
Jan-24-2013, 04:50
Contrails oh my good. This is fine. No more unexpected attacks from Hurris in my 109.

Thank you !!!!!!!:thumbsup:

56RAF_phoenix
Jan-24-2013, 12:40
Looks absolutely fantastic!

May I ask, has this been tested online? I'm worried about packets getting filled with the coordinates of the contrails.

56RAF_phoenix

ATAG_Colander
Jan-24-2013, 12:42
Looks absolutely fantastic!

May I ask, has this been tested online? I'm worried about packets getting filled with the coordinates of the contrails.

56RAF_phoenix

No data is sent over the net for this.

Katdog5
Jan-24-2013, 13:50
Looks great, but are the contrails maybe lasting a wee bit too long? - It looks like a spaghetti bowl :-)

Look forward to seeing the vid, thanks for the work! - Can't wait to fly with contrails like that...


See: Paul Nash, painted 1941.
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This looks so AWESOME.

56RAF_phoenix
Jan-24-2013, 14:50
No data is sent over the net for this.
Excellent!
Out of curiosity, I presume you're storing the coords from previous times? If so, good thinking, I'm impressed.

Why on earth didn't MG fix this themselves??
It certainly makes me wonder what they were doing towards the end.

56RAF_phoenix

Continu0
Jan-24-2013, 15:17
Excellent!
Why on earth didn't MG fix this themselves??
It certainly makes me wonder what they were doing towards the end.

56RAF_phoenix

Probably trying to meet a deadline with the new project... it&#180;s only logical that they didn`t invest too much time in CloD...

ATAG_Snapper
Jan-24-2013, 15:43
Probably trying to meet a deadline with the new project... it&#180;s only logical that they didn`t invest too much time in CloD...

Yeah, that's my thinking. I can't imagine their frustration at being diverted away from such an awesome project like CLoD and having to leave it in such an unfinished state.

heinkill
Jan-28-2013, 15:13
Just dropped by to wish the new Team Fusion all the best.

And to say, I love contrails in a sim.

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Nothing more hair raising than slashing in for an attack on some bombers, and then looking up and seeing the contrails above you fork over and start coming straight at you.

Or spotting the bandit on your six by his contrail...

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Cheers

H

ATAG_Snapper
Jan-28-2013, 15:21
A helluva first post, Heinkill! Great shots!!! :thumbsup:

Oh, and welcome to the forum. :D

Snapper :salute:

Skoshi_Tiger
Jan-29-2013, 05:38
Just dropped by to wish the new Team Fusion all the best.

And to say, I love contrails in a sim.

1622162316241625

Nothing more hair raising than slashing in for an attack on some bombers, and then looking up and seeing the contrails above you fork over and start coming straight at you.

Or spotting the bandit on your six by his contrail...

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Cheers

H

Hi,

Good screen shots! Is that BoB:WOV? (going by the offscreen markers)

Wow its come along way.

Oersted
Jan-29-2013, 11:24
Just dropped by to wish the new Team Fusion all the best.
H

Hello heinkill!

You do realise that that wish will seriously compromise your apparent objectivity when you are going to review the patch for SimHQ, I hope... ;-)

SiThSpAwN
Jan-29-2013, 11:30
Hey guys, looking good, just wondering, will the contrails be affected by wind, do they move with the wind, etc...

Glad to see you guys take on this huge project! :thumbsup: