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ATAG_Pattle
Dec-31-2019, 04:21
Team Fusion Simulations Bf-108 B2 Taifun

The Taifun is one of the new flyable aircraft in TFS 5.0. IL-2 Cliffs of Dover Blitz North African expansion.

The Luftwaffe utilised the Taifun during WW2 as a personal transport and liaison aircraft.

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Cheers,

Pattle

ATAG_TCP
Dec-31-2019, 21:47
Looking very nice!
Always great to have some extra variety ;)

IIJG27Rich
Jan-02-2020, 16:05
The Mooney of it's time :) :thumbsup: :salute:

https://airfactsjournal.com/files/2014/03/af-mooney-feature.jpg

DUI
Jan-02-2020, 16:15
If you want to know all the dirty secrets of the 108, have a look at Kermit's restoration project (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYwoBGIMukA&list=PLc9R0Ar11YH2ebdjLaCNbqMenyaunx7_O). :thumbsup:

ATAG_Noofy
Jan-02-2020, 16:29
If you want to know all the dirty secrets of the 108, have a look at Kermit's restoration project (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYwoBGIMukA&list=PLc9R0Ar11YH2ebdjLaCNbqMenyaunx7_O). :thumbsup:


https://youtu.be/nYwoBGIMukA


https://youtu.be/LyJLczspYE8

Kendy for the State
Jan-02-2020, 16:45
What will be the point of this aircraft in the game? It can't attack or defend, just fly around.

Bonditaria
Jan-02-2020, 17:03
What will be the point of this aircraft in the game? It can't attack or defend, just fly around.


I don't know what the eventual result will be, but, some time ago it was mentioned that, this aircraft has dual controls and can be used as a basic trainer over the internet...2 pilots control the same aircraft. If that can be achieved it will be astonishing.

DRock
Jan-02-2020, 19:10
I don't know what the eventual result will be, but, some time ago it was mentioned that, this aircraft has dual controls and can be used as a basic trainer over the internet...2 pilots control the same aircraft. If that can be achieved it will be astonishing.

Very cool.

I could have used an aircraft like this to train new pilots. Just being able to sit beside them and see the gauges would make this easier, let alone being able to take over control.

It would feel more real, too.


Thanks TFS.:thumbsup:

♣_Spiritus_♣
Jan-02-2020, 23:36
What will be the point of this aircraft in the game? It can't attack or defend, just fly around.

As mentioned above, that is our hope. Also, the Axis side did not have a training aircraft like the Allies do in the Tiger Moth and this one was already in game.

Plus as a mission builder this type of aircraft has lots of possibilities. Not everyone will fly them but I have some ideas to some exciting online missions with it, as I'm sure other mission builders/server people do.

ATAG_Oskar
Jan-02-2020, 23:51
What will be the point of this aircraft in the game? It can't attack or defend, just fly around.

I think the Luftwaffe intended it for the ATAG mission 'Steamworks'. It's the ideal aircraft to pick up the spy and fly him back to France.

ATAG_Noofy
Jan-03-2020, 01:45
I think the Luftwaffe intended it for the ATAG mission 'Steamworks'. It's the ideal aircraft to pick up the spy and fly him back to France.

The 110 is fine too for that...

Torric270
Jan-03-2020, 01:45
Very cool.

I could have used used an aircraft like this to train new pilots. Just being able to sit beside them and see the gauges would make this easier, let alone being able to take over control.

It would feel more real, too.


Thanks TFS.:thumbsup:

You may already be able to do this with the tiger moth, but I never tested it online with another human. Use the binding: (under aircraft) Jump between pilot and selected position :gives control to the other pilot. In the Br20, the co-pilot will take over and usually cause a horrific death if you don't catch it in time. (Tested in the moth and it does the same thing)

I believe it is used in a provided training mission where you hand control back and forth to the instructor (single player mission) but I have slept since then.

ATAG_Ezzie
Jan-03-2020, 02:17
You may already be able to do this with the tiger moth, but I never tested it online with another human. Use the binding: (under aircraft) Jump between pilot and selected position :gives control to the other pilot. In the Br20, the co-pilot will take over and usually cause a horrific death if you don't catch it in time. (Tested in the moth and it does the same thing)

I believe it is used in a provided training mission where you hand control back and forth to the instructor (single player mission) but I have slept since then.

One time, at band camp (ATAG server), Kennedy Oz was flying in a 110 and i was his gunner. He was called away at short notice and left the game. After his seat became vacant i then moved from the gunner's seat to the pilot's seat and kept flying the same aircraft for another hour or so. So its possible to do in MP.

ATAG_Noofy
Jan-03-2020, 04:10
One time, at band camp (ATAG server), Kennedy Oz was flying in a 110 and i was his gunner. He was called away at short notice and left the game. After his seat became vacant i then moved from the gunner's seat to the pilot's seat and kept flying the same aircraft for another hour or so. So its possible to do in MP.

If you do that, and assuming you both have different key bindings etc., whose .ini settings are used to control the plane?

ATAG_Ezzie
Jan-03-2020, 05:00
If you do that, and assuming you both have different key bindings etc., whose .ini settings are used to control the plane?

Im not sure - i flew it for a while and cant recall any issues with different bindings etc but maybe there were some and i cant remember them. I think i had my front gun loadout re tracers etc but cant be sure either.

All im sure about is jumping into front seat and flying for about an hour. The rest im guessing re loadouts etc

Edit - i use the cockpit clickable controls for the -110 so maybe that why i cant recall issues with bindings ets

Pans
Jan-03-2020, 08:48
If you do that, and assuming you both have different key bindings etc., whose .ini settings are used to control the plane?
That's not how .ini files work because you will still be flying from your own computer. They only dictate your inputs, not anybody else's. Think of them as a translation table between standard game controls and your hardware.

Torric270
Jan-03-2020, 11:04
One time, at band camp (ATAG server), Kennedy Oz was flying in a 110 and i was his gunner. He was called away at short notice and left the game. After his seat became vacant i then moved from the gunner's seat to the pilot's seat and kept flying the same aircraft for another hour or so. So its possible to do in MP.

I believe this was just taking over control once he left, sort-of when you give control back to the ai to man the gunner.

In the tiger moth, it should be possible for 2 human pilots to take control over the plane in a I go, then you go when the key command is given.

In theory, one spawns in the plane and the other jumps in just like you do with a gunner. The first spawner would then determine who is in control by using the command key.

Torric270
Jan-03-2020, 12:39
Just confirmed my first duel flight with ATAG_Marlow in a Tiger Moth. I had jumped in one and was in the air when he jumped in. I hit the command and it was his plane. I could switch back and forth at will and it would give us control of the plane.

The switch may have a little hiccup in the process, but the flying part works great.

Thank you Marlow :salute:

Now DRock, get to training.:thumbsup:

Tibsun
Jan-03-2020, 12:57
Just confirmed my first duel flight with ATAG_Marlow in a Tiger Moth. I had jumped in one and was in the air when he jumped in. I hit the command and it was his plane. I could switch back and forth at will and it would give us control of the plane.

The switch may have a little hiccup in the process, but the flying part works great.

Thank you Marlow :salute:

Now DRock, getting to training.:thumbsup:

Can we get this for the BR.20 too?
Co-Pilot is listed, but you cannot sit in it.

Gingerbread
Jan-03-2020, 13:21
Can we get this for the BR.20 too?
Co-Pilot is listed, but you cannot sit in it.

+1!

(Or at least drop him out with the bombs to make him useful... :D In Microprose's B17 the co-pilot read out speed and altitude values at least (and noticed engine overheating too). If we cannot man him, I could imagine a function like this to him.
But it would be great to be able to man that position too! It would mean -besides training possibilities- better visibility from the cockpit and a backup position to fly the plane if the pilot is killed. I love to fly the Br20, but I always thought this co-pilot thing as a shortcoming.)