PDA

View Full Version : HD 7970 problem.



102.VO_Herr_Laca
Apr-13-2013, 12:04
Hello everyone!
Hd 7970 VGA problem.
Does somebody know a solution?

2610

III./ZG76_Keller
Apr-13-2013, 12:10
This is a common AMD/ATI thing, don't think anyone's found a fix for it.

TX-EcoDragon
Apr-13-2013, 12:17
CloD's AMD users need to band together and report this to AMD.

Flightsimmers are a small group to begin with so we have to get a lot of us reporting the issue for them to make any effort to give it a look.

Please, report this to AMD using their handy bug reporter here: http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=454&threadid=161256&enterthread=y

1lokos
Apr-13-2013, 13:04
Laca,

No known solution, I always have this issue (HD7970) with Catalyst 12.1 - 13.1 - 13.3 Beta.

Expect see this kind of corruption too, in beach/river banks:

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/328/faixasv.jpg

Sokol1

No.401_Alpine
Apr-13-2013, 20:29
I did'nt have this problem with my 6850 1 gig,but two weeks ago I upgraded to the 7850 2 gig and now I have this issue as well. I tried both 3.1 and the newer beta,and still no joy.

Kling
Apr-14-2013, 05:19
I did'nt have this problem with my 6850 1 gig,but two weeks ago I upgraded to the 7850 2 gig and now I have this issue as well. I tried both 3.1 and the newer beta,and still no joy.

What exactly is wrong with the photo?! I see nothing abnormal on it :/

Edit: Aaah now i see it! Grey/white line right across the water... Didnt see it st fist becaimuse im using my phone for browsing atm and the screen is too small.. ;)

Alexx78
Apr-14-2013, 07:59
I have the same problems with the my HD7970 and Catalyst 13.2 Beta6

No601_Merlin
Apr-15-2013, 02:39
I found this YouTube video that covers a potential fix


http://youtu.be/FzjgdHI76Zo

and this http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/634608-odd-screen-darkening-and-white-lines/page-3

Alexx78
Apr-16-2013, 17:42
Nice try, but it's not working for me...

RedBeard
Apr-16-2013, 18:10
Hello everyone!
Hd 7970 VGA problem.
Does somebody know a solution?

2610

I got amd 6990 hd. Same thing:)

1lokos
Apr-16-2013, 23:04
I remember someone mentioned in 1c Forum (Banana's) a article in December issue of German magazine PC Games Hardware (http://www.pcgameshardware.de/), about ATI Radeon issues, seems suggest use Radeon PRO (http://www.radeonpro.info/) to minimize these issues, not specific this "magic square".

http://forums-de.ubi.com/showthread.php/123683-Landschaft-flimmert-unertr%C3%A4glich

I install this program but dont know what/how adjust...

Sokol1

YoYo
Apr-29-2013, 18:27
Have still too same prolem on 7970. Very annoying so cant fly on COD now.

CIA_Panteramutt
Apr-30-2013, 00:27
Yes, I too have that yellow ring around my aircraft's FOV while flying over water. Tried many different video settings to no avail. It was gone for the version that was pre-official final patch (sorry can't remember the exact release number!). The final official patch brought it back, and the mod release hasn't corrected it, but then again I wasn't expecting it to. I hope subsequent Catalyst releases might catch it. I will send a bug report now that I know it's an AMD thingy. My card is the HD 6790, Catalyst 13.1.

It knocks back the immersion factor, but makes for a useful reference line while tracking bogeys.

Cheers
J.

YoYo
Apr-30-2013, 03:04
Yes. Too same.

I havent this bug with strange boxed line on horizon before the last official 1C patch (with all betas from 1C was ok !), after this last official its again. :grrr:
Very annoying & pity.

AKA_Recon
Jul-17-2013, 20:09
Just wanted to report I see these lines on my new 7950 HD.

The lines appear for me in the water only I believe. And I notice them the most north of France

Is this something Team Fusion can address ? Has anyone tried different video settings that might help ? (ie. is it there with vsync off, etc.. ?)

Thanks for the great sim work!

Recon

ATAG_JTDawg
Jul-17-2013, 22:44
Just wanted to report I see these lines on my new 7950 HD.

The lines appear for me in the water only I believe. And I notice them the most north of France

Is this something Team Fusion can address ? Has anyone tried different video settings that might help ? (ie. is it there with vsync off, etc.. ?)

Thanks for the great sim work!

Recon

Been a pain since the beginning. I have tried all settings in every way , I have 2 x 6870 xfx black ed . :grrr:

YoYo
Aug-27-2013, 03:54
So no any ideas to solve this problem for ATI 79XX?

:(

YoYo
Dec-19-2013, 06:04
Hello, Back to CoD. Is it solved or not yet?

1lokos
Dec-19-2013, 15:37
YoYo,

No, perhapes the way is... Nvidea. :)

Sokol1

ATAG_Bliss
Dec-19-2013, 21:26
YoYo,

No, perhapes the way is... Nvidea. :)

Sokol1

Yes - I always try to tell everyone I know to always go with nvidia. Remember how long it took for ATI to work properly in the original IL2? Years!

AKA_Recon
Dec-19-2013, 22:53
YoYo - It's slightly annoying but certainly doesn't keep anyone from flying.

Incog
Dec-23-2013, 18:01
Also have myself a sexy 7970, also having these problems.

Slightly tedious but since I spend more time flying and looking around for contacts I barely even notice. The card allows me to actually play this game and many other games on ultra settings, so I can't tell this card that it's a problem child.

Hmm, though if I try to overclock it I lose stability in this game I think.

ATAG_JTDawg
Dec-23-2013, 19:39
Just now ordered 1 of these puppies , Any body else using one.? i'll let ya know in a week or so , Then CROSSFIRE :D
http://www.asus.com/us/ROG_ROG/MATRIXR9280XP3GD5/

YoYo
Jan-12-2014, 08:24
Ok, and I have a question about new ATI R9 cards - 290 or 290X.

Is it exists with this graphic cards or not ? (this annoying lines of LOD on horizont).

ATAG_Bliss
Jan-12-2014, 09:10
Ok, and I have a question about new ATI R9 cards - 290 or 290X.

Is it exists with this graphic cards or not ? (this annoying lines of LOD on horizont).

Just buy Nvidia and never look back. I have never had a nvidia card issue ever. I owned an ATI card and hated it. Nvidia just always seems to work with every game while ATI works with every game 95% of the time. Less driver hassles. Less problems. And especially for Cliffs, stay with Nvidia if you can.

Incog
Jan-12-2014, 10:20
Grr, don't hate AMD cards. They're great cards. My voltage-unlocked 7970, with 3 Gb of VRAM, cost me €302. The Nvidia equivalent, which is the GTX 770, at the time costed €400+ for the version with 4 Gb of VRAM. For gaming at 1080p, 3 Gb is perfect, 2 Gb means that you might hit a VRAM bottleneck in the most demanding games and 4 Gb is overkill (unless you're going SLI/Crossfire). Overall, the 7970 was a better deal and indeed, it's a great card. Literally the only problem I have with it is that the AMD drivers mean that I get the LOD lines in Clod. That's the ONLY problem with this card. Other than that, it's a seriously good card for its cost. This is especially due to the fact that 7970s and 770s are the go-to cards for ultra settings at 1080p and that 3 Gb of VRAM is the perfect amount for that resolution. So the 7970 gets a very slight edge.

Under that, you have the R9 270 dueling with the GTX 660; both cards are almost exactly identical in performance and price. R9 270X is a bit better than those two.

The GTX 760 used to duel with the 7950 but I'm not sure they make the latter anymore. Now it's kind of in its own tier, alone. It's better than the R9 270 or the GTX 660 but it's not as good as the 7970/R9 280X. 7950 didn't get rebranded.

On top of that, you have the GTX 780 which is now sitting in its own tier, because the R9 290 is a notch stronger than it. The R9 290 had problems at release in that it was a blazing fast card but it was also a blazing hot/loud card (though some say that it can be lived with). Now that you have GPU manufacturers making their own cards with custom PCBs and heatsinks (AMD decided to give a great card a very shitty heatsink, for some reason), you've got astonishing performance from the 290 without the noise problem or a card that was running at 95°C.

Then you have the R9 290X and the 780 Ti which are dueling for top spot; I think the 780 Ti has a slight edge here in terms of raw performance but it comes down to which one is priced better when you're buying the card, as it always should when buying a GPU. If the 770 had been closer in terms of price to the 7970 I might have opted for that card instead. But a better deal is a better deal so I went with AMD. Even at the moment, I can find a 280X with a decent cooler at a better price than the GTX 770:

http://www.amazon.fr/MSI-GAMING-Graphique-Radeon-PCI-Express/dp/B00GSIFMB0/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1389539230&sr=8-7&keywords=R9+280X

http://www.amazon.fr/MSI-N770-4GD5-OC-PCI-Express/dp/B00DW15XSS/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1389539125&sr=8-6&keywords=gtx+770

^Probably due to the fact that 4 Gb of VRAM is more expensive to manufacture than 3 Gb, but since I don't need that last Gb...



OK, OK, enough of that. :p


I don't know if you have the LOD lines with the 290/290(X). Given that, unless I'm mistaken, the R9 series cards use the same drivers as the 7xxx series, I'm going to be inclined to say that you DO have the LOD line problems with the AMD cards. So if you're buying a GPU to play this game at the price range of the 290 series, it might be better to look at a GTX 780, which got its priced bumped down recently.

The 290X is better than the 290 in terms of performance but not by that much, it's been established that the R9 290 is a more cost-efficient card to get. However this was when R9 290s were selling at $400 (which is indeed an amazing price), due to bitcoin miners, the demands of 290 series cards has exploded and the prices have gone up ($520 on newegg). If you ARE going to buy a 290 series card anyway (I think that outside of the USA prices have remained stable), I would probably recommend a 290 series card with a custom cooler, though those aren't out yet, so sit tight until then, it'll probably be worth it:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7601/sapphire-radeon-r9-290-review-our-first-custom-cooled-290/3

Go for brands like Sapphire, Gigabyte, ASUS or MSI.

ATAG_Bliss
Jan-12-2014, 11:20
I don't hate them :D

I just know a whole bunch of people throughout the years that have had issues with them. And when I mean issues, I'm not talking the card died, I'm talking the card didn't work well with X,Y,Z game. But, on the flip side, I've never heard the same about nvidia for X,Y,Z game. It's just like when the original IL2 came out, it took several years before ATI worked right with the sim. And now, look again, ATI has this strange blue line issue, that nvidia does not have. I agree on the price point and all that jazz, but nvidia just always seems to work with every game, while ATI has issues with a very small percentage of games. That's all I'm saying ;)

trooph
Jan-12-2014, 11:58
Ok, and I have a question about new ATI R9 cards - 290 or 290X.

Is it exists with this graphic cards or not ? (this annoying lines of LOD on horizont).

Sadly it does. but the performance is great :) r9 280x owner here..
TBH now is a matter of performance per $ spent. Sure thing in some older games Nvidia has better performance than ATI cards, but in new ones that run dx11+ You get more for Your cash with ATI. Nvidia is bit overpriced and in most times offer less vram than the red team at the same price shelve.
My r9 is a gigabyte rev 2 version which OCs just a little bit...maybe in the future they will unlock voltage, now I can run 1150 core 1660 memory, ClOD runs really smooth with rare dips below 60 (vsync on) Hawkinge with medium clouds and flak get around 55+ never lower and im running with everything maxed out (no AA)
THis one bug with CloD sure is annoying but I can live with it as I got more for same price comparing to Nvidia products...
And trust me I would buy nvidia if they would offer something similar in performance for such price (1350 pln/320 euros before xmass)

Incog
Jan-12-2014, 12:27
I don't hate them :D

I just know a whole bunch of people throughout the years that have had issues with them. And when I mean issues, I'm not talking the card died, I'm talking the card didn't work well with X,Y,Z game. But, on the flip side, I've never heard the same about nvidia for X,Y,Z game. It's just like when the original IL2 came out, it took several years before ATI worked right with the sim. And now, look again, ATI has this strange blue line issue, that nvidia does not have. I agree on the price point and all that jazz, but nvidia just always seems to work with every game, while ATI has issues with a very small percentage of games. That's all I'm saying ;)

:D yeah dw, i'd probably be inclined to agree with you had i been around in the hardware scene for longer than now. tbh AMD seems to like screwing up the little things, even today. look how they botched the 290 series card release with bad cooling and whatnot. also talking about mantle etc, it's still not working. then you have things like bulldozer (very botched CPU release).

AMD have some good stuff but it needs to be sorted out from some of the bad stuff they have. unlike nvidia for GPUs and unlike intel for CPUs.

so really, your statement of "go with nvidia" isn't ill-founded at all, i even agree with you now that i think about it ; you can blindly put faith in an nvidia card or intel CPU, same can't be said for AMD products. however they're great value. ;D

YoYo
Jan-13-2014, 02:26
Just buy Nvidia and never look back. I have never had a nvidia card issue ever. I owned an ATI card and hated it. Nvidia just always seems to work with every game while ATI works with every game 95% of the time. Less driver hassles. Less problems. And especially for Cliffs, stay with Nvidia if you can.

Thank You, but Id like to still have AMD card. Im loyal customer ;). BTW. I have 7970 - performance & SMAA is great with this GPU:

http://imageshack.com/a/img59/4472/gqu5.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img819/2610/le4t.jpg

just this strange lines on horizont (but with only ZOOM in)

Incog
Jan-13-2014, 03:57
i recently jacked up everything to absolute max settings for fun and those lines in the water are gone now for me. with a 7970 as well. ^^ only FPS drop is over calais

YoYo
Jan-13-2014, 04:49
i recently jacked up everything to absolute max settings for fun and those lines in the water are gone now for me. with a 7970 as well. ^^ only FPS drop is over calais

I noticed than it depences from LOD/Terrain shadowing opiton. In my spec is ok on LOW and MEDIUM, on HIGH I see this line on horizont only when I take max Zoom.

Pity than ATI 280/290 has too same issue still.

I Hope TF working on this too? ; )

Continu0
Jan-13-2014, 16:39
i recently jacked up everything to absolute max settings for fun and those lines in the water are gone now for me. with a 7970 as well. ^^ only FPS drop is over calais

Are the lines even gone with max zoom?

AKA_Recon
Jan-14-2014, 18:01
i recently jacked up everything to absolute max settings for fun and those lines in the water are gone now for me. with a 7970 as well. ^^ only FPS drop is over calais

Can you explain further - I assume you mean in game ?

I have all my in game settings to the max and I get lines in the water.

Irongull
Jan-15-2014, 16:33
I can definitely confirm that setting your LAND SHADING option to MEDIUM instead of HIGH removes the white border line...

I thank you greatly for that tip!!!