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LG1.Farber
Apr-27-2013, 09:06
Hey,

would it be possible to change the distance the Bofor type guns engaged at? To say 1000 metre. Maybe 1500metre? Shooting at a singular aircraft that's traveling over 200mph from 3 miles away with an iron sight doesn't sound like something professional soldiers or even morons would do. It simply a waste of ammo.

Also could the black FLAK of the big guns be made just a very small amount more accurate?

Also, is there any chance to have some machine gun type ground AA defences? - even if its just pinched from another object like the mine boat?


I think these would be great adjustments to the game and would aid mission makers allot in bringing a better experience to clod. If anyone else agrees please show your support in this thread. Thanks TF.

*Helo*
Apr-27-2013, 09:16
Good idea.

Archie
Apr-27-2013, 09:53
Yes, good idea.

Kling
Apr-27-2013, 10:17
+1

Wulf
Apr-27-2013, 10:54
On the subject of Flak, would it be possible to make it a little more realistic (heavy/deadly) out in the Channel? I suspect Luftwaffe shipping strikes resulted in about the same casualty rate as those suffered by RAF Coastal Command strike squadrons, which was about 90% at this stage of the War.

bolox
Apr-27-2013, 11:12
Also, is there any chance to have some machine gun type ground AA defences? - even if its just pinched from another object like the mine boat?

Have you tried using bren carriers?

LG1.Farber
Apr-28-2013, 17:05
On the subject of Flak, would it be possible to make it a little more realistic (heavy/deadly) out in the Channel? I suspect Luftwaffe shipping strikes resulted in about the same casualty rate as those suffered by RAF Coastal Command strike squadrons, which was about 90% at this stage of the War.

RAF CC and BC were operating day light raids with no escort. - Hence super high casualties.


Have you tried using bren carriers?

Would prefer a MG39 or Bren gun on a tripod for AA... Rather than some bren carries and half tracks spinning on the spot and only engaging targets that came in low enough :)

Wulf
Apr-28-2013, 18:01
RAF CC and BC were operating day light raids with no escort. - Hence super high casualties.



Would prefer a MG39 or Bren gun on a tripod for AA... Rather than some bren carries and half tracks spinning on the spot and only engaging targets that came in low enough :)



Coastal Command shipping strikes were conducted at any time - day or night. The preference was for low cloud or mist conditions, in the early morning or late evening hours (as this offered some measure of concealment), however, if a target was discovered in the absence of natural cover, then that was just too bad. At this early stage of the War operations were usually of the "Rover" type, single aircraft, usually Beauforts or Blenheims hunting shipping along the French or Scandinavian coastlines, with particular attention being given to known sea lanes or around the approaches to enemy held harbours. Because these operations were flown at extremely low altitude (less than 100 feet in most cases) the aircraft were highly susceptible to ship-borne flak, which could be quite horrendous by all accounts. I agree however that Axis shipping would also have fighter cover in many instances.

heinkill
Apr-29-2013, 12:44
+1 to this.

Bofors accuracy and range is just silly and the minensuchboot at any skill level can shoot down half a schwarm as they fly over.

The static zwilling doesnt seem to engage at all? And there of course should ideally be a British version eg Bren.

Also missing is a British field artillery piece, while you are at it!

:)

TX-Gunslinger
Apr-30-2013, 01:03
I certainly support all you've described. The ground gunners in CoD are awful to say the least. I think Il2-46 had it about right. You had to fly in a certain manner not to eventually get hit.

The other plus side to increased accuracy of AA guns, is one of aircraft ID. Often numerous flak bursts tell a defending pilot that "something is out there" but often time the bursts are so random that you can't immediately tell what the drunk gunners are shooting at.

Again, I think a goal of recreating the same accuracy of the older Il2 series would be much welcome. With that type of accuracy some of the "clown behavior" that folks have complained about would more difficult and less rewarding to pull off. More effective AA might just drive pilot behavior in the direction that many seem to want.

Thanks for bringing up the topic.