He-111/Ju-88 sight

[=vit_unit=]

I think there is a topic about sights of He-111/Ju-88 somewhere but I can't find it.

After last patch I can't operate with bomber sight correctly.
The question is simple. What is the correct formula for calculating of true speed?

[9./JG52 Hans Gruber]

I reported this but it was ignored. The sights simply do not work correctly. If you enter the correct information into the sight the bombs will fall short, very short.

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4146

Here is what works for me and others in my squad. I typically bomb from between 4000-4500m using He 111. With the "glance at dashboard" view it is much easier to bomb in He 111 than Ju 88. At that altitude using the recommended engine settings the He 111 will be going 310kmh IAS, which is about 380-390kmh TAS. If you enter TAS into the site your bombs will be short. I enter 350 or 360 kmh, use indicated altitude, and aim where I want my first bomb to hit. The sight will be always moving up so you'll have to keep pushing it down to stay on your target but the results speak for themselves. As you can see in the videos the bombs hit right on the mark. In the Manston video you can see the bombs of others fall short who were using TAS in their sight. These were filmed during Storm of War campaign missions.

http://youtu.be/uTlrs9kCfs4

http://youtu.be/fLK__k7SNUk

[III./ZG76_Keller]

He-111 sight is calibrated for 250kg bombs, and the Ju-88 sight is calibrated for the 50kg.

Try this: http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/utils/lotfe7.html

The sights are working perfectly in both airplanes as long as you're using the right bombs.

[9./JG52 Hans Gruber]

He-111 sight is calibrated for 250kg bombs, and the Ju-88 sight is calibrated for the 50kg.

Try this: http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/utils/lotfe7.html

The sights are working perfectly in both airplanes as long as you're using the right bombs.

I only ever use 250's in the He 111 and first bombs are always several hundred meters short. If you're definition of working perfectly is the last half of a salvo with a 100m spread hits the target then I guess you are correct. I prefer greater accuracy than throwing the entire load at a single target hoping that 1/2 hit. The method and video evidence shows how you can adapt the sight for improved accuracy.

[III./ZG76_Keller]

You're not going to land 8 bombs in the back seat of a car from 4500m, there will be a natural spread as the bombs descend. Bombing from lower altitudes will decrease the natural spread of the bombs but it is not, and was not, possible to land 8 bombs on the exact same spot. I think you're just experiencing the fact that high-altitude level bombing is/was not an exact science.

If your altitude is set for elevation above target; indicated altitude minus target elevation, and your true airspeed is set correctly; your bombs should all fall backwards from your crosshair. Set your salvo to a 0m spread, a 100m spread will put 100m between each bomb; therefore it will drop the first bomb 800m behind the last bomb. 800m of spread on a 50m wide target is only going to put one bomb on the target if you're lucky.

I have successfully, on many occasions, achieved a direct hit on targets from 5800m; I assure you the sights are working correctly.

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In the above image I dropped from 5700m with a 0m spread on the bombs, you can see that even at 0m of spread the bombs will separate naturally during their fall.

[=vit_unit=]

I reported this but it was ignored. The sights simply do not work correctly. If you enter the correct information into the sight the bombs will fall short, very short.

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4146

Here is what works for me and others in my squad. I typically bomb from between 4000-4500m using He 111. With the "glance at dashboard" view it is much easier to bomb in He 111 than Ju 88. At that altitude using the recommended engine settings the He 111 will be going 310kmh IAS, which is about 380-390kmh TAS. If you enter TAS into the site your bombs will be short. I enter 350 or 360 kmh, use indicated altitude, and aim where I want my first bomb to hit. The sight will be always moving up so you'll have to keep pushing it down to stay on your target but the results speak for themselves. As you can see in the videos the bombs hit right on the mark. In the Manston video you can see the bombs of others fall short who were using TAS in their sight. These were filmed during Storm of War campaign missions.

http://youtu.be/uTlrs9kCfs4

http://youtu.be/fLK__k7SNUk

Good videos. I always wanted to participate in a group level-bomber flight.
I bombed from 5000 m and always missed.
I will try your recommendations.
But how do you know that bombs are gone away? Do you use manual mode of bombing?

[9./JG52 Hans Gruber]

Good videos. I always wanted to participate in a group level-bomber flight.
I bombed from 5000 m and always missed.
I will try your recommendations.
But how do you know that bombs are gone away? Do you use manual mode of bombing?

The Storm of War campaign missions we have had 5 or 6 He 111's level bombing together escorted by a several 109's & have been some of my most memorable experiences in the sim.

I use the automation. Nothing tells you the bombs were released but if you watch the arrow on the left hand side of the site that is moving counter clockwise you can determine when the bombs should have released. Between 4-5km it will happen between 20-30 deg on that scale.

[Roblex]

I set up an offline mission to practice bombing with JU88 and I found that if you get everything perfect a full salvo with zero delay dropped from 3000m has a spread of about 30m centred on the target. It is quite awesome watching the target as the bombs hit! The problem is getting it *perfect* because there are just so many things that you can get slightly wrong.