View Full Version : First ever landing in the P-51, blimey I have a lot to learn...but it is great fun ;)
Mysticpuma
Dec-08-2013, 16:42
http://youtu.be/JMFfPxfcSvU
Was listening to Ian MacDonald who has flown Crazy Horse with Ed Shipley. He took me through the controls and settings, was a great experience ;)
Then I tried landing..... ;)
Cheers, MP
Just make sure you keep 200-220mph on the clock whilst you're descending in fine pitch at about 1000ft per min. As you approach the runway, check her to around 500ft per min and 190mph. At the threshold, cut throttle and flare. Piece of piss.
That's a promise, not a challenge by the way. :)
Catseye
Dec-08-2013, 19:11
Just make sure you keep 200-220mph on the clock whilst you're descending in fine pitch at about 1000ft per min. As you approach the runway, check her to around 500ft per min and 190mph. At the threshold, cut throttle and flare. Piece of piss.
That's a promise, not a challenge by the way. :)
Hi Dutch,
Whew,
That's a pretty hot speed on approach . . . . . . . :)
I take the downwind leg at 1,500 ft. with partial flaps and let her settle down around 140 - 160 mph then continue to drop to about half down flaps on the left base leg descending to 600 ft. and wheels down as I turn for the upwind leg at 600 ft. while also dropping to full flaps. Continually adjusting nose up/down trim. Fine pitch during all this and let her settle to about 110 - 120 mph.. Hold her off at that speed after the flare and then cut the throttle. Usually, nice and smooth.
This is one really nice aircraft to play with. Took about a month to get all the keymap setup on my HOTAS.
Very enjoyable once you get the hang of it.
The only thing I had to adjust in the P51 setup was to get about 20 percent assistance on the rudder pedals as they were too sensitive at first. Now responds very nicely with the "right" feel.
Cheers,
Cats . . .
Kwiatek
Dec-08-2013, 19:30
http://youtu.be/JMFfPxfcSvU
Was listening to Ian MacDonald who has flown Crazy Horse with Ed Shipley. He took me through the controls and settings, was a great experience ;)
Then I tried landing..... ;)
Cheers, MP
Nice bouncy landing. I think too much habbits from CLOD :P But it looks that P-51 has quite strong undercarriage.
I would like to see similar landing behavoiur in CLOD with 4.01 :)
As real life pilot who is flying taildraggers i remember that when i first tried DCS P-51 i got more problems with take off ( high power engine create a lot torque and gyro effect) when i was rising tail too quickly ( not sufficent rudder work) then with landings. Landings was ok for me but still need a lot attention.
The funny thing to me is that in BOS i hardly could correctly land with Lagg but at least DCS P-51 react like real life plane not like hanging on springs iron :)
:)
And there we have it Cat's-eye. There we have it. :D
There is no single process, no single setting, there is no 'this is how you do it'. Everyone has to feel their way and fly as they see fit, in a 'proper' simulator.
But for me, I think my future is definitely here....in.......'World of Warplanes'!! ....AAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!
Kwiatek
Dec-08-2013, 20:14
BTW with taildragger ( but not only) try to make more step nose down landing with low power settings keeping needed speed ( in P-51 as i remember ab. 120 mph in final) rather then flat aproach with higher power settings.
Injerin
Dec-08-2013, 20:37
Nice landing puma, I find that the P-51 taxi is just as challenging lol!
Injerin
Dec-08-2013, 21:46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbEQyrLlTcs&feature=youtu.be
Well.. Here is my landing. :)
ATAG_Freya
Dec-08-2013, 23:09
Nice! What's the saying...."Any landing that causes you to piss blood for a week, is a good landing!" or something like that :)
Well I've done worse:devilish:
In all reality I would have gone round with that bounce, but that's me.
Would also have expected it to have ended up like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XuMylC7gSc
Kwiatek
Dec-09-2013, 05:50
Mysticpuma got still enough speed to land safe after first bounce.
But on these last video there were emergency landing when pilot start to losing power of his P-51 engine, he landed across runways and when he touch down there was i small hill which cause big bounce - he didn't have enough speed to make better second touch down. But he made what he could made - didnt loose his nervous and was keeping stick pull back all time - if no there could be more fatal damages.
Catseye
Dec-09-2013, 11:54
:)
And there we have it Cat's-eye. There we have it. :D
There is no single process, no single setting, there is no 'this is how you do it'. Everyone has to feel their way and fly as they see fit, in a 'proper' simulator.
Totally agree!
Just hope each aircraft has a strong undercarriage.
Cats . . .
Whew,
That's a pretty hot speed on approach . . . . . . . :)
You're right Cats. When I posted the other night, my wife had discovered my log-in details, and my brother as well, and they both conspired to make me look a little foolish. I meant 120mph of course. Both of them knew that there was a '2' in it somewhere.
Believe you me, since then the sparks have been flying really really badstyle.
It's all lies, I was completely pissed. But there we are, hey-ho. Back to the 'high and mighty moral ground........' :goofy
:)
Catseye
Dec-14-2013, 12:39
You're right Cats. When I posted the other night, my wife had discovered my log-in details, and my brother as well, and they both conspired to make me look a little foolish. I meant 120mph of course. Both of them knew that there was a '2' in it somewhere.
Believe you me, since then the sparks have been flying really really badstyle.
It's all lies, I was completely pissed. But there we are, hey-ho. Back to the 'high and mighty moral ground........' :goofy
:)
I thought that was a bit strange but I was thinking - well, each to his own, but thank goodness for long runways. :)
Cheers,
implicit A
Jul-20-2014, 11:37
The funny thing to me is that in BOS i hardly could correctly land with Lagg but at least DCS P-51 react like real life plane not like hanging on springs iron :)
I totally aggree with that "like hanging on springs iron" thanks for that i'm not mad !
On BOS forum i post the same thing, asking if it was a work in progress bug
real life pilot from Bos Forum and Bosfanboys tell me it was because i land the wrong way, but in fact i know i'm a bit true.
I trained a week long. The only way i can land correctly is in external view ... so it's possible unless i don't think it is totally realistic.
I've just bought P51 D this week.
It's a pleasure to fly and land with it, in full real
found a RAF livery witch make it perfect !
:salute:
Edit : sound mod for DCS P51 GREAT !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs1Zg-JVPV4
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/716633/
implicit A
Jul-28-2014, 05:25
"react like real life plane not like hanging on springs iron" not true anymore for me, but in facts i'had to practice a lot before that :
Landing the Lagg-3 in BOS : my video tips :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4QMjoQ3-FM
I'm pround of that, but no sure it is historical way of landing. In La-5 manual they talk about 30° flaps.
definitly not an arcad game ...
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