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Catseye
Dec-12-2013, 21:13
The title says it all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-CNdf2hp44

Old_Canuck
Dec-14-2013, 01:30
Tempest V FTW. Good watch, thanks for posting. :salute:

RAF74_Buzzsaw
Dec-14-2013, 01:47
The Tempest was an absolute beast with an absolute beast of an engine... temperamental, but monstrously powerful.

The Tempest was probably the best low/medium alt air superiority fighter of the war.

Roblex
Dec-14-2013, 03:06
The Tempest was an absolute beast with an absolute beast of an engine... temperamental, but monstrously powerful.

The Tempest was probably the best low/medium alt air superiority fighter of the war.

I flew it it almost exclusively in IL2. Loved it.

Stig1207
Dec-14-2013, 04:57
The Tempest is definitely one of my absolute favourites, but the variant I want to fly most we'll probably not see in any future sim. I haven't seen any polls for the Indo-Pakistani War of 1947 as next theatre.

Such a beauty:

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gavagai
Dec-14-2013, 10:46
I'd be curious to know what the new wing design did to its stall characteristics. I haven't seen this aircraft modeled in any flight sim with a high fidelity FM.

ATAG_Striker
Dec-14-2013, 17:01
let you know the vid has been set to private bummer:(

Catseye
Dec-14-2013, 17:44
I found it again here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXjRfof16ls

RAF74_Buzzsaw
Dec-15-2013, 02:31
I'd be curious to know what the new wing design did to its stall characteristics. I haven't seen this aircraft modeled in any flight sim with a high fidelity FM.

The Tempest's wing had very similar characteristics to the P-51's.

It had a higher stall speed than the Typhoon, despite having lower wingloading.

What the wing lacked in low speed maneuverability it more than made up for in providing far lower drag than the Typhoon's, thus tremendous acceleration, and in providing very good high speed turn performance. Rollrate at high speed was superb.

Black
Dec-15-2013, 07:29
Together with the P38 my favourite ride on the red side in the old IL2, great aircraft! :thumbsup:

gavagai
Dec-15-2013, 10:22
The Tempest's wing had very similar characteristics to the P-51's.

It had a higher stall speed than the Typhoon, despite having lower wingloading.

What the wing lacked in low speed maneuverability it more than made up for in providing far lower drag than the Typhoon's, thus tremendous acceleration, and in providing very good high speed turn performance. Rollrate at high speed was superb.

Yes, I have read that the Tempest also had a laminar flow wing. The complaints about the P-51 at the ED forum are never-ending!

Mastiff
Dec-23-2013, 23:19
The title says it all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-CNdf2hp44

? nothing there

ATAG_Lewis
Dec-24-2013, 06:04
Mastiff....Check further down the thread at Cats second post.....

By the way I also use to fly the Tempest in IL2 online....always had to get alt and not turn it in dogfights..keep E........and I always wondered why the engine area was so wide when it looked pretty much just like a 'V' Merlin engine from the fuselage..then I saw one on display in an aviation museum and realised it was a 24 cylinder horizontal opposed engine....It was massive...It was like 2 12 cylinder flat engines on top of each other...wow!..it made the Merlin look like a toy..


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Napier_Sabre01.jpg

http://blog.kermitweeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Tempest-1.jpg

RAF74_Buzzsaw
Dec-24-2013, 20:18
The thing to understand about the Sabre engine is that it was still really in the early stages of development at the end of the war.

It was such a complex engine, that the normal process of getting it to a standard level of reliability took a lot longer than a conventional 12 cylinder type. By the time it had become reliable it was already early 1944.

Development as far as maximum power was just starting when the war ended. The last model of the engine developed close to 4000 horsepower at 3850 rpm on a testbed run.

Rpm was the real reason the engine was so powerful. It had 24 cylinders on a displacement of only 36.5 liters, barely over that of the 35 liters of the DB605 which powered the later model 109's and which could only hit 2000 horsepower and not reliably. But because the pistons and other parts in the Sabre were 1/2 the size of those in the V12's, their reciprocating weight was also 1/2 that of the parts in the older V12 engines, and thus the Sabres could turn safely at rpms at which the Merlins or the Daimlers would fly to pieces. As any Formula 1 designer will tell you, rpm equals power.

But of course, there was no further reason to continue with development of the Sabre after the war, Jet engines were the way to go, props could not turn at the speeds required to translate all the power generated by the Sabre engine. The Royal Navy was not interested either, they wanted a more reliable and durable radial in their Sea Furies, radials were much safer in situations where most missions occurred over water, they would continue to run with damage too.

Good Hawker Tempest page here:

http://www.hawkertempest.se/