View Full Version : It will be some improvements for HAT users?
gombrowitch
Dec-14-2013, 16:01
Hello,
HAT is working very strange in this game. Every 5 seconds view is centering even if i dont touch button for centering view. Is there any chance to improve it without additional programs?
ATAG_Colander
Dec-14-2013, 18:53
Hi gombrowitch,
Do you have Freetrack installed by any chance? If so, you'll have to start it even if you're not using it or things like this will happen.
Is a Freetrack issue and not a game issue.
Colander.
ATAG_Lewis
Dec-14-2013, 22:42
This sounds like 'Snap View'....Go into controls and make sure that your hat switch is set for 'Pan View'...not 'Snap View'
HAT in CloD work in the same way as in il-2 1946, PAN in 45 degrees increments or SNAP (return to center when HTA is released).
What you describe seems a conflict... like with mentioned Freetrack.
With HAT you have a better control if use HAT to do "mouse view" with external programs like JoytoKey or NewView.
Sokol1
Hi gombrowitch,
Do you have Freetrack installed by any chance? If so, you'll have to start it even if you're not using it or things like this will happen.
Is a Freetrack issue and not a game issue.
Colander.
That explains it! I had this issue as well.
gombrowitch
Mar-12-2014, 19:06
This sounds like 'Snap View'....Go into controls and make sure that your hat switch is set for 'Pan View'...not 'Snap View'
I deleted all links in Snap menu and its still an issue. :( I dont use FreeTrack. Only HAT. When i press F9 i cant move at all or i can move, but view is centered randomly.
It looks like that (i dont used key for centering view):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG2WIw8_KgE&feature=youtu.be
Continu0
Mar-12-2014, 19:26
I deleted all links in Snap menu and its still an issue. :( I dont use FreeTrack. Only HAT. When i press F9 i cant move at all or i can move, but view is centered randomly.
It looks like that (i dont used key for centering view):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG2WIw8_KgE&feature=youtu.be
There is a line in your config files like "usetrackir". That should be set to 0. Can you find that?
I deleted all links in Snap menu and its still an issue. :( I dont use FreeTrack. Only HAT. When i press F9 i cant move at all or i can move, but view is centered randomly.
CloD - like il-2'46 have two mode to use HAT for POV control.
Snap View - Press HAT left (e.g) camera more to 90 degrees left, when release HAT left the camera swing to center.
Pan View - Press HAT left (e.g) camera move 45 degrees and stay, press again and move more 45 degrees, etc.
To go back to center press HAT right 4 times or use a key/button for "Return to front view" or "Reset camera" (Camera section).
F9 switches between these two modes.
[quote]It looks like that (i dont used key for centering view):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG2WIw8_KgE&feature=youtu.be
In this video seems that a mouse button is configured to "Reset camera"...
Sokol1
gombrowitch
Mar-13-2014, 05:33
There is a line in your config files like "usetrackir". That should be set to 0. Can you find that?
I set it to 0, but its still randomly centering.
conf.ini
[BOB]
[window]
DepthBits =24
StencilBits=8
DrawIfNotFocused=0
SaveAspect=0
[NET]
speed=100000
localPort=27015
serverName=My Server
serverDescription=IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover
serverInfo1=
serverInfo2=
serverInfo3=
serverInfo4=
VAC=1
maxPlayers=255
socksEnable=0
socksHost=
socksPort=1080
socksUser=
socksPwd=
[Console]
IP=20001
UseStartLog=1
WRAP=1
PAUSE=1
HISTORY=1024
HISTORYCMD=1024
PAGE=20
LOG=0
LOGTIME=0
LOAD=console.cmd
SAVE=console.cmd
LOGFILE=log.txt
LOGKEEP=0
[rts]
; 0 - not use, 1 - show cursor and not capture, 2 - not show cursor, and capture
mouseUse=2
; 0 - not use, 1 - use if hardware exist
joyUse=1
; 0 - not use, 1 - use if hardware exist
trackIRUse=0
[rts_mouse]
SensitivityX=1.0
SensitivityY=1.0
SensitivityZ=1.0
Invert=0
SwapButtons = 0
[rts_joystick]
FF=1
[core]
RandSeed = 0
TexQual=3
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=0
Shadows=1
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=1
LandShading=1
LandDetails=1
Sky=3
Forest=2
VisibilityDistance=3
LandGeom=2
DrawCollisions=1
Water=-1
Effects=1
EffFlags.Light=1
EffFlags.SpriteRender=0
Grass=3
CordEffect=1
UseFog=0
UseLandCube=1
UseLandConnectedObject=1
LinearObjectManager=1
Roads=1
Sun=1
Clouds=1
EffFlags.LightSpritesProj=1
ShadowMapSize=5
TexFlags.AsyncLoad=1
TexFlags.ShowTexture=0
SimpleMesh.SWTransform=0
SimpleMesh.QuadTreeClip=1
SimpleMesh.InstancingHW=1
EffFlags.LightContextSprites=1
CloudsFlags.Detailed=1
TexFlags.CreateHDR=1
Decals=1
EffFlags.SWLight=0
TexFlags.CockpitOnePass=0
MegaTexture=0
TexFlags.Reflection=0
RenderTargetQual=3
MSAA=0
MeshStatics=1
MeshStaticsDetail=2
SimpleMesh.QTNoCompose=0
MeshFirstLod=0
MeshShowLod=0
SpawnHumans=0
[sound]
SoundUse=1
DebugSound=0
SoundEngine=1
Speakers=1
Placement=0
SoundFlags.reversestereo=0
RadioFlags.Enabled=1
RadioEngine=2
MusicVolume=14
ObjectVolume=7
MusState.takeoff=1
MusState.inflight=1
MusState.crash=1
MusFlags.play=1
MasterVolume=14
Attenuation=7
SoundMode=0
SamplingRate=0
NumChannels=2
SoundExt.occlusions=1
SoundFlags.hardware=1
SoundFlags.streams=1
SoundFlags.duplex=1
SoundExt.acoustics=1
SoundExt.volumefx=1
SoundFlags.voicemgr=1
SoundFlags.static=1
VoiceVolume=8
Channels=1
SoundFlags.bugscorrect=0
SoundExt.extrender=0
SoundSetupId=8
ActivationLevel=0.02
Preemphasis=0.8
RadioLatency=0.5
AGC=1
PTTMode=1
RadioFlags.PTTMode=0
RadioFlags.PlayClicks=1
ActLevel=9
MicLevel=10
SoundFlags.UseRadioChatter=0
SoundFlags.AutoActivation=0
SoundFlags.forceEAX1=0
speakers=1
Its also centering, when im using zoom in and out button.
ATAG_Colander
Mar-13-2014, 09:50
Hi gombrowitch,
Do you have Freetrack installed by any chance? If so, you'll have to start it even if you're not using it or things like this will happen.
Is a Freetrack issue and not a game issue.
Colander.
.
Game is now improved so you can wear a hat while playing.
sorry.. couldnt resist.... :/
gombrowitch
Past here you User.ini code - I will test on my install.
Sokol1
gombrowitch
Mar-13-2014, 17:49
confuser.ini
[BOB]
hotkeys = HotKey BOB
difficulty=131072
lastSingleMiss=missions/Single/Bomber Intercept - Ships.mis
[HotKey BOB]
S=static
Alt F4=exit
P=pause
L=land
Alt X=exit
PrintScreen=ScreenShot
[Config viewSet]
AzimutSpeed=0.1
TangageSpeed=0.1
LenSpeed=0.1
MinLen=1.0
DefaultLen=20.0
MaxLen=30000.0
Speed=6
Offset=2
[DashBoard]
0=1 153.600 0.000 0.600
1=1 870.400 0.000 0.600
2=1 0.000 281.600 0.500
3=1 0.000 153.600 0.500
4=1 0.000 409.600 0.500
5=1 870.400 153.600 0.600
6=1 870.400 307.200 0.600
7=1 716.800 0.000 0.600
8=1 0.000 0.000 0.600
[HotKey gui]
Escape = activate
MouseRight = popupmenu
[HotKey Console]
;BackQuote=Activate
Control Tab =Activate
[FreeFly]
MouseLeft=
A=Azimut-
D=Azimut+
S=Tangage+
W=Tangage-
Q=Kren-
E=Kren+
V=Speed+
C=Speed-
[FreeFly Config]
AzimutView=1.0
TangageView=1.0
SpeedAzimut=50.0
SpeedTangage=50.0
SpeedKren=50.0
MaxSpeed=1000.0
Acselerate=100.0
[HookViewFly Config]
timeFirstStep=2.0
deltaZ=10.0
[FreeFlyXYZ]
Left=Y+
Right=Y-
Down=X-
Up=X+
Home=Z+
End=Z-
Delete=A-
PageDown=A+
Control Left=SpeedMul
Control Right=SpeedMul
Control Down=SpeedMul
Control Up=SpeedMul
Control Home=SpeedMul
Control End=SpeedMul
Control Delete=SpeedMul
Control PageDown=SpeedMul
[FreeFlyXYZ Config]
SpeedXYZ=20.0
SpeedAzimut=20.0
SpeedMul=0.1
[HotKey artillery_gunner]
Up = GunUp
Down = GunDown
Right = GunRight
Left = GunLeft
Space = GunFire
S= StopMovement
M= StartMovement
F = FastTracking
T = FineTrackig
[Config pilotMove]
aileron=1 0.01 0.02
elevator=1 0.01 0.02
rudder=1 0.02 0
trimaileron=0 0
trimelevator=0 0
trimrudder=0 0
throttle=0.05 0.95 0.02 0.02 0.02
pitch=0 0
mix=0 0
compressor=0 0
oilradiator=0 0
radiator=0 0
flaps=0 0
underc=0 0
brakes=0 0
throttle0=0 0 0 0 0
throttle1=0 0 0 0 0
throttle2=0 0 0 0 0
throttle3=0 0 0 0 0
throttle4=0 0 0 0 0
throttle5=0 0 0 0 0
throttle6=0 0 0 0 0
throttle7=0 0 0 0 0
pitch0=0 0
pitch1=0 0
pitch2=0 0
pitch3=0 0
pitch4=0 0
pitch5=0 0
pitch6=0 0
pitch7=0 0
mix0=0 0
mix1=0 0
mix2=0 0
mix3=0 0
mix4=0 0
mix5=0 0
mix6=0 0
mix7=0 0
radiator0=0 0
radiator1=0 0
radiator2=0 0
radiator3=0 0
radiator4=0 0
radiator5=0 0
radiator6=0 0
radiator7=0 0
oilradiator0=0 0
compressor0=0 0
oilradiator1=0 0
compressor1=0 0
compressor2=0 0
oilradiator2=0 0
compressor3=0 0
oilradiator3=0 0
oilradiator4=0 0
compressor4=0 0
oilradiator5=0 0
compressor5=0 0
oilradiator6=0 0
compressor6=0 0
compressor7=0 0
oilradiator7=0 0
bombbaydoor=0 0
impellerretr=0 0
airbrake=0 0
carbheater=0 0
carbheater0=0 0
carbheater1=0 0
carbheater2=0 0
carbheater3=0 0
carbheater4=0 0
carbheater5=0 0
carbheater6=0 0
carbheater7=0 0
leslats=0 0
brakeslt=0 0
brakesrt=0 0
throttle_wep=0 0
[Config turretMove]
turretyaw=0.5 0 0
turretpitch=0.5 0 0
[HotKey vehicleDriver]
Control S=start_movement
Alt S=stop_movement
Control D=toggle_dir
Down=brake
Right=turn_right
Up=accelerate
Left=turn_left
Alt D=toggle_hand_brake
[HotKey vehicleGunner]
Space=gun_fire
[Config vehicleMove]
ower=0 0.9 0 0 0
power=0 0.9 0 0 0
[HotKey camposMouseXYZ]
MouseLeft=AT
MouseRight=XYZmove
F7=SpeedFast
F6=SpeedNormal
F5=SpeedSlow
F8 MouseLeft=Kmove
[LastFocus]
969305076=bExtras
-1332861808=bStatistic
-1137074434=bRealism
1899961994=bQuickMission
-372350066=bServer
628377810=training5
1862295808=bControls
2134622242=bBuilder
2084280354=bExtras
[HotKey pilotMove]
Joystick1+AXE_Z=1rudder
Joystick+AXE_Z=-1throttle
Joystick2+AXE_Y=1elevator
Joystick2+AXE_X=1aileron
[HotKey view]
Control F2=outsideViewNextEnemy
Control F1=toggleShowCabin
Y=padlockViewPrev
Alt F7=outsideViewEnemyDirectGround
U=padlockViewNext
Alt F6=outsideViewEnemyDirectAir
Alt F2=outside
Alt F1=inside
M=toggleShowMirror
C=nextCabin
Shift C=changeCabin
Control C=prevCabin
Alt 9=cabin9
Alt 8=cabin8
Alt 7=cabin7
Joystick2+Key3=padlockViewForward
Alt 6=cabin6
Alt 5=cabin5
Alt 4=cabin4
Alt 3=cabin3
F8=outsideViewFollow
Alt 2=cabin2
F7=outsideViewEnemyGround
Alt 1=cabin1
F6=outsideViewEnemyAir
F5=padlockViewGround
F4=padlockView
F3=outsideViewFly
F2=outsideView
Shift F7=outsideViewFriendGround
F1=insideView
Shift F6=outsideViewFriendAir
Shift F5=padlockViewFriendGround
Shift F4=padlockViewFriend
Shift F2=outsideViewNextPlane
Shift F1=toggleAim
[HotKey viewSet]
Alt MouseLeft=DashBoard
End=fov70
PageDown=fov90
Delete=fov30
Mouse5=FOV
MouseMiddle=Rotate
F10=StartStop
MouseRight=Len
MouseLeft=Offset
NumPad/=Reset
[HotKey viewPan]
NumPad-4=PanLeft2
NumPad-3=PanRight3
NumPad-2=PanDown
NumPad-1=PanLeft3
Pov225 Joystick+Pov=PanLeft3
Pov270 Joystick+Pov=PanLeft2
Pov315 Joystick+Pov=PanLeft
Pov0 Joystick+Pov=PanUp
Pov45 Joystick+Pov=PanRight
Pov90 Joystick+Pov=PanRight2
Pov135 Joystick+Pov=PanRight3
NumPad-9=PanRight
NumPad-8=PanUp
Pov180 Joystick+Pov=PanDown
NumPad-7=PanLeft
NumPad-6=PanRight2
NumPad-5=PanReset
[HotKey viewSnap]
NumPad-4=Snap_m2_0
NumPad-3=Snap_3_0
NumPad-2=Snap_0_m2
NumPad-1=Snap_m3_0
Pov225 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_m3_0
Pov270 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_m2_0
Pov315 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_m1_0
Pov0 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_0_2
Pov45 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_1_0
Pov90 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_2_0
F9=SnapPanSwitch
Pov135 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_3_0
Pov180 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_0_m1
NumPad-9=Snap_1_0
NumPad-8=Snap_0_0
NumPad-7=Snap_m1_0
NumPad-6=Snap_2_0
NumPad-5=Snap_0_2
[HotKey timeSpeed]
CloseBracket=timeSpeedUp
OpenBracket=timeSpeedDown
Quote=timeSpeedNormal
[HotKey common]
O=door_open
Shift L=csec_lights
A=autopilot
Control O=door_close
Control L=cpri_lights
Control J=door_jettison
Control E=bailout
Alt L=cste_lights
MouseLeft=fire
Control Space=door_toggle
[HotKey pilot]
Joystick1+Key1=trigger1
Z=rudder_leftx
X=rudder_rightx
W=thtl_110
Joystick+Key15=airbrake
Control NumPad-9=site_alt_plus
V=landingflaps_d
Shift BackQuote=engselect_all
Control NumPad-8=site_dist_plus
T=thtl_psicutout
Control NumPad-7=site_spd_plus
Control NumPad-6=site_side_right
R=rad_auto
Control NumPad-5=site_auto
Control NumPad-4=site_side_left
Joystick2+Key0=trigger01
Control NumPad-3=site_alt_minus
Joystick+Key0=pitch_plus
Control NumPad-2=site_dist_minus
Control NumPad-1=site_spd_minus
I=enginei01
Joystick+Key14=trigger3
G=uc
Control Z=ruddert_left
F=landingflaps_u
Control X=ruddert_right
Control W=abwurf_arm
B=wheelbrakex
Control T=thtl_slowcutout
Equals=thtl_plus
9=extinguisher
6=rad_plus
5=rad_minus
Control G=uc_down_emer
Shift 8=engselect_n7
Joystick+Key12 Joystick+Key18=autorudder_off
Shift 7=engselect_n6
Shift 6=engselect_n5
Control C=pilot_switch
Shift 5=engselect_n4
Control B=bombbaydoors
Shift 4=engselect_n3
Shift 3=engselect_n2
Shift 2=engselect_n1
Shift 1=engselect_n0
Down=elevator_downx
Right=aileron_rightx
Up=elevator_upx
Left=aileron_leftx
Control 7=rudder_leftx
Joystick+Key12 Joystick+Key17=autorudder_low
Shift Down=elevatort_ndown
Shift Right=aileront_right
Space=trigger0
Shift Up=elevatort_nup
Shift Left=aileront_left
Joystick+Key12 Joystick+Key16=autorudder_high
Joystick1+Key3=trigger2
Joystick+Key3=pitch_auto
MouseLeft=MouseControl
Underscore=thtl_minus
Backspace=thtl_wep
Joystick+Key2=pitch_minus
[HotKey turret]
Control O=trt_park_toggle
Down=trt_mount_d
Right=trt_mount_r
Up=trt_mount_u
Left=trt_mount_l
Shift Down=trt_down
Shift Right=trt_right
Shift Up=trt_up
Shift Left=trt_left
[HotKey orders]
9=order9
8=order8
7=order7
6=order6
5=order5
4=order4
3=order3
2=order2
1=order1
0=order0
Escape=deactivate
Alt=select
Control=expand
Enter=Enter
Tab=activate
Backspace=Backspace
[HotKey vehicle]
Down=brake
Right=turn_right
Up=accelerate
Left=turn_left
Alt D=toggle_dir
Space=fire
[HotKey builder]
NumPad-4=stepAzimut-15
NumPad-3=stepAzimut30
NumPad-1=stepAzimut-30
NumPad-0=insert+
Alt MouseRight=select-
Alt MouseLeft=select+
Alt Control=unselect
A MouseLeft=battleArea
Control Z=Undo
Control Y=Redo
Control X=cut
Control V=paste
Insert=insert+
Control C=copy
Control B=addBranch
Home=change--
End=change++
PageDown=change+
PageUp=change-
Delete=delete+
MouseRight=popupmenu
F10=land
MouseLeft=objectMove
Shift MouseLeft=worldZoom
Enter=freeView
NumPad.=delete+
Tab=cursor
Backspace=cursor
Alt Right=Forward
Alt Left=Backward
NumPad-9=stepAzimut5
NumPad-8=resetTangage90
NumPad-7=stepAzimut-5
NumPad-6=stepAzimut15
Control MouseRight=delete+
NumPad-5=resetAngles
Control MouseLeft=insert+
[HotKey builderMouseXYZ]
F4 MouseRight=Zmove
F5 MouseLeft=Amove
Mouse5=Amove
MouseRight=XYmove
MouseLeft=Len
F6 MouseLeft=Tmove
F3=SpeedFast
F2=SpeedNormal
F1=SpeedSlow
F7 MouseLeft=Kmove
[ChatWindow]
0:-1=-posSize '0.003 0.870 0.206 0.130' -titleStr "Motor Controls" -alpha 130 -ualpha 0 -wrap -history 100
0:262144=-lay 1 -fnt 0 -clr 0
1:-1=-posSize '0.818 0.543 0.181 0.145' -titleStr "Secondary Controls" -alpha 130 -ualpha 0 -history 10 -timeout 15
1:5=-font 0
1:4=-font 0
1:7=-font 0
2:-1=-posSize '0.002 0.000 0.460 0.186' -titleStr "Info. Window 1" -alpha 130 -ualpha 25 -vscroll -wrap -history 100
2:393216=-fnt 0 -clr 54 -al 2 -tf 1 -sz 1 -sl 1
2:3=-font 0
2:131072=0
2:1=-font 0
2:6=-font 0
3:-1=-posSize '0.518 0.002 0.418 0.275' -titleStr Voice -border -alpha 130 -ualpha 0 -wrap -history 40 -timeout 30
3:2=-font 1
4:-1=-posSize '0.171 0.323 0.687 0.352' -titleStr NetStats -title -border -alpha 50 -ualpha 0 -custom
4:-2=-font 3 -color 139 -columnWidth '0.100 0.183 0.322 0.144 0.093 0.081' -columnSort 2
I tested you ConfUser.ini but dont notice nothing strange in use HAT to PAN VIEW's (SNAP dont work - see bellow). Or no spontaneous randomly return to center view.
I deleted all links in Snap menu and its still an issue. I dont use FreeTrack. Only HAT. When i press F9 i cant move at all or i can move, but view is centered randomly.
When you hit F9 - to change for default PAN mode to SNAP mode - your HAT stop to work because SNAP views are mapped to POV (HAT) on Joystick 2 (how come the game) in your ConfUser.ini.
http://i57.tinypic.com/mjsh7r.jpg
If want use, remap pressing your joystick HAT.
BTW - The only "strange" thing that I notice is that most planes I shoot start big fires or loose a wing... Your ConfUser.inu "realism" is all in "Easy mode". :)
Sokol1
gombrowitch
Mar-14-2014, 05:53
I dont know. Mine conf.ini dont have influence on server, so i dont care + i dont know, what is there easy mode, because i have full realism options in single players, besides unlimited ammo (i practice shooting in single player). I dont want use snap view. I just want have normally working HAT without this stupid random centering.
Just in case, test your joystick in Windows Control Panel > Game Controllers wizard to see if HAT are not send random press.
You dont have a gamepad/steering wheel plugged on computer? Or other controller that became this "joystick 2".
Make a copy of ConfUser.ini and then go to Controls > Snap View and delete all entries for joystick and keyboard commands, hit APPLY an test.
Sokol1
Mysticpuma
Mar-14-2014, 11:10
Do you have a control pad plugged in too? I know if I have a control pad plugged in (xbox 360 controller) my rudder pedals stop working. Just checking that you have only controllers necessary to play Clod plugged in?
Maybe worth (as a possible test), unplugging your joystick and launching the game, then using the numpad keys for snap view. If you get the same result (centres after 5-seconds) it's not a Joystick issue. Also, maybe unplug the joystick and plug it into a different USB socket?
Just a thought?
Cheers, MP
gombrowitch
Mar-21-2014, 06:02
Just in case, test your joystick in Windows Control Panel > Game Controllers wizard to see if HAT are not send random press.
You dont have a gamepad/steering wheel plugged on computer? Or other controller that became this "joystick 2".
Make a copy of ConfUser.ini and then go to Controls > Snap View and delete all entries for joystick and keyboard commands, hit APPLY an test.
Sokol1
Its working ok in other games. Mine joystick has 3 modes (Defender Cobra M5). Joystick 2 is probably second mode. I also dont have pad.
"joystick 2".
Joystick 2 in Controls is not related with joystick mode (1, 2, 3)*, is how the game ordering plugged joysticks on computer, starting in "0".
Joystick 0 = 1st joystick
Joystick 1 = 2nd joystick
Joystick 2 = 3rd joystick
...
"joystick" means any kind of HID controller (joystick, rudder, throttle, gamepad/joypad, steering wheel...)
* In Cobra M5 mode change buttons order, because this stick have 7 physical buttons (not include triggers) but his USB controller is capable to handle 21 buttons, so on mode 1 you use (controller) buttons 1-7, on 2 8-14 on 3 15-21 (or something similar).
Sokol1
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