Loadouts

[GeorgePreddy]

Loadout appears to be one of the largest factors in getting successful kills.

Here's the loadout I currently use:

(200x200 convergence)

Gun1:
Incendiary Tracer
Armor Piercing
Armor Piercing
Incendiary
Incendiary

(Guns 2-8 are using same loadout)

I've found this setup gives me enough tracers (every 5th bullet) and the alternating AP/INC shreds and burns to maximum effect.

Would love to hear what other people are using.

[*Helo*]

After testing for months now different setups for I came to a weird conclusion or gun setup concerning performance and efficency. With a 109 you can attack and down multiple targets without running out of ammo, since especially the cannons are efficent. Additionally the MGs are also a very handy tool for precise damage againsttargets in a turn.

So now to the 8 .303 guns of the British planes. I tested out different configurations like DeWilde on the 2 outer and Armor Piercing ROunds on the 2 inner guns, but I soon found out that naturally, your target isnґt always flying in the range of your gun convergence and particularly all your 8 guns donґt your traget at the same time unless itґs big and not changing its course. With the 2 outer DeWilde and 2 AP on the inner guns config or ice versa setup brought the problem that sometimes the wrong bullets were hitting the right locations like AP rounds constantly perforating the Fuel tanks. An igniting DeWilde round would help more here.

So one could put a healthy mix of DeWilde AP into every gun or arrange a asymmetric gun config at 200m convergence:

1: Red Tracer, DeWilde
2. Red Tracer, AP
3. AP
4. DeWilde
5. AP
6. DeWilde
7. Red Tracer, AP
8. Red Tracer, DeWilde

For me that setup is effective concerning efficency and perfomance meaning that you donґt have to blow all your ammo into your target to bring it down. Cutting of the wings or tails of bombers is very easy with that config and also fighters, at close range take a lots of damage. Despite the convergence you use, I found it most useful to get as close as possible and fire into the target, ripping off the rudder, ailerons or elevators. The 2 times Red tracers remind me of the P-51 config from Il-2 FB :happy with red tracers on the two most outer guns. FOr me two tracers per side are more visible at longer shots or at deflection shots to keep track of the trajectory.

[Dutch]

I have convergence at 150 x 150 with;

1. De Wilde
2. AP
3. AP
4. De Wilde

5. De Wilde
6. AP
7. AP
8. De Wilde

Hit them in the fuel tanks and kerboom! :Grin:

[Catseye]

I've been doing a lot of reading on this subject and have a document that shows the historical loadouts of both the Luftwaffe and RAF in the early stages of the war. I've tried them both and then modified.

The big issue for me is that the AP rounds do not penetrate enough to do damage as they were designed. Apparently, and I don't know if this is modeled correctly, but they had a tendency to enter the outer skin only and then flatten and fall short of penetrating successive structures.

I've found Ball ammo to be much more lethal in this sim.
I do NOT use tracers as the DeWilde flash is enough as designed to show my hits and I therefore do not warn the bandit.

My settup is as follows for all eight guns:
DeWilde
DeWilde
DeWilde
DeWilde
DeWilde
Ball
Ball
Ball
AP

x8 guns

Convergence 230 Metres. (250 yds)

This really shreds the crap out of any bomber or fighter I encounter.

S!
Cats . . .


addendum:
Further evaluation shows that in the sim the AP does have effect on structures. Wings tear off and controls snap.
I now have the following loadout.

DeWild
DeWild
DeWild
DeWild
AP
AP
AP

For all guns.

Convergence 180 Metres (200 yds)

[ATAG_Snapper]

Thanks, Catseye. I will give this load out a try!

[TWC_Fatal_Error]

OK as a novice to this sim I would like to be able to script the gun package iI currently find desirable and have it apply to each spit or hurricane i fly in combat. Is there no easy way to do this laborious task? Bringing in new pilots to this sim already takes valuable time teaching them set up each aircraft with just the ability to fly the sim and learn navigation let alone tactics and aircraft identification.
Our Squadron which is interested in this simulation is slowly creeping in and a script for gun loadout would be a wonderful time saver once the pilot decided to what loadout and convergence that best suited his flying style.

I have only been here a short time and have found a suitable loadout for my aircraft package

all convergence set to 200
1/8 ap nitro,de wilde, 30 red naval
2/8 ap nitro,de wilde, 30 red naval
3/8 ap nitro,de wilde, 30 red naval
4/8 white incedary tracer 30 red naval
5/8 white incedary tracer 30 red naval
6/8 ap nitro,de wilde, 30 red naval
7/8 ap nitro,de wilde, 30 red naval
8/8 ap nitro,de wilde, 30 red naval

red at 30 time to go but still have a bit of sting for that 109 hanging around the field.

[dburne]

I would love to as well, but as I understand it loadouts do not work properly in single player offline... :(
Course I found this out after I customized a few planes loadouts lol.

[ATAG_EvangelusE]

OK as a novice to this sim I would like to be able to script the gun package iI currently find desirable and have it apply to each spit or hurricane i fly in combat. Is there no easy way to do this laborious task?


There is a tutorial here........http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3003

This tutorial is applicable for on line multiplayer.

Loadouts that you create are saved in the User.ini file located in the 1csoftclub - il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover MOD directory. This can be opened with Notepad or Wordpad -

a) to check your convergence and loadouts are actually saved

b) or to edit it manually to create/modify loadouts.

There is another thread regards editting the User.ini file here....http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5193.

[Catseye]

OK as a novice to this sim I would like to be able to script the gun package iI currently find desirable and have it apply to each spit or hurricane i fly in combat. Is there no easy way to do this laborious task? Bringing in new pilots to this sim already takes valuable time teaching them set up each aircraft with just the ability to fly the sim and learn navigation let alone tactics and aircraft identification.
Our Squadron which is interested in this simulation is slowly creeping in and a script for gun loadout would be a wonderful time saver once the pilot decided to what loadout and convergence that best suited his flying style.

I have only been here a short time and have found a suitable loadout for my aircraft package

all convergence set to 200
1/8 ap nitro,de wilde, 30 red naval
2/8 ap nitro,de wilde, 30 red naval
3/8 ap nitro,de wilde, 30 red naval
4/8 white incedary tracer 30 red naval
5/8 white incedary tracer 30 red naval
6/8 ap nitro,de wilde, 30 red naval
7/8 ap nitro,de wilde, 30 red naval
8/8 ap nitro,de wilde, 30 red naval

red at 30 time to go but still have a bit of sting for that 109 hanging around the field.


Hi Fatal_Error,

Go to the location below and open User.ini with a text editor.


C:\Users\XXXX\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover - MOD\User.ini

Once you have one set of guns configured through the in-game editor, you can go to the above file and cut and past that into all the RAF aircraft you want.

Mine is below. Different descriptions of course for your loadouts.

(ps. give mine a try) :)

Cheers,
Cats . . .



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beltPreset CatMix _Gun01 Gun.Browning303MkII MainBelt 2
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beltPreset CatMix _Gun04 Gun.Browning303MkII MainBelt 11 11 11 11 10
weapons 1

[ATAG_Monkeynut]

You can set your loadouts and convergence for single player in a roundabout way.

If you set the loadout in multiplayer and save it, the next time you fly single player with this aircraft type it will have the loadout and convergence you set up in multiplayer. A bit laborious, but handy for single player campaigns and setting up quick missions for gunnery practice with different loadout settings.

[9./JG52 Mindle]

After reading some about custom loadouts etc, decided to look at my use.ini file...

There is no User.ini file in either my 1csoftclub directory or the x86 route?


Any ideas? Can i create a user.ini file myself to edit, not that much of a techhead.

Any help appreciated!!

[ATAG_Septic]

Hi Mindle,

I believe I've offered this reply elsewhere on here but in case I'm mistaken; There won't be a user.ini until you create and save a custom load out in game.

Septic.


After reading some about custom loadouts etc, decided to look at my use.ini file...

There is no User.ini file in either my 1csoftclub directory or the x86 route?


Any ideas? Can i create a user.ini file myself to edit, not that much of a techhead.

Any help appreciated!!

[92 Sqn. Philstyle (QJ-P)]

OK here's mine... at the moment (it changes quite often). For spitfire mainly. Hurricane, you can extend the horizontal by around 20m or so.

Guns 1 and 8:
Vertical: 400m
Horizontal 180m
De-Wilde and AP ammo

Guns 2&3 and 6&7:
Vertical: 400m
Horizontal 145m
De-Wilde and AP ammo

Guns 4 and 5:
Vertical: 400m
Horizontal 200m
De-Wilde and AP ammo

I avoid using tracers like the plague. Two reasons;
1. It gives Jerry advanced warning of your presence, more often than not
2. It teaches you to aim poorly, and to "walk" your fire onto the target

At first I had trouble without tracers, getting hits. But over time, I learned to wait longer before I engage. Wait until I can't miss.
Hopefully, from many of my videos, you'll see that my first burst will hit the target, without the aid of tracers. It's only spending a few months not using tracer that my aim has improved.

[Zisi]

For red: AP, AP, Inc 155 horiz / 200 vert
For blue: AP Hart, Inc 1000 horiz / 200 vert Cannons: Sprgr (E3's) or M-Geschos (E4s) 155/200

It could be argued to mix in the explosive MG round on blue, it causes some surface damage types that the other rounds do not, however it's also visual, so I don't use it because it gives away your firing position. Tracer is a bad idea for the reasons Phil pointed out. On blue, I've come to the conclusion that incendiary is only relevant vs bombers, I don't remember the last time I caused a fire on a spit, and a fuel secondaries fire (by far the most likely fire) on spits doesn't kill the pilot anyway, so if you don't intend on shooting at bombers, then don't take Inc. VS bombers you have more time to set up an IV of bullets into the engine, and since ai bail on any fire (even a wingtip), it's well worth having.

There are a variety of strategies when it comes to horizontal convergence, a granular distribution like Phil's, long or short range, or a single convergence like what I use. Different strategies will work better for different people, you just need to find out what works for your shooting style. I would make the recommendation though that whatever you do for vertical convergence, that you do it the same for all aircraft you fly, learning the deflection takes time, and if you are changing it around all the time you will never gain the needed intuition for harder deflection shots.

Also keep in mind that even with a short range setup, you can still shoot at much longer range by only using one wing.

[StormBat]

Okay this is what I have for my convergences for the spit and hurricane.

Horizontal: 183 meters
Vertical : 200 meters

Guns 1 to 8

Armour piercing
Incendiary De Wilde
303 Cordite mark VII
Incendiary De Wilde

AP rounds puncture (great for pk's ) letting De Wildes rounds start fires inside the aircraft.
303 Cordite Mark VII's rip trough wings and engine blocks, destroying ailerons and elevators also letting De Wildes enter the aircraft to start fires.

At short accurate bursts (1-2 seconds) at optimal gun sight range (200 yards) I get black smoke, fires and either them hitting the silk or dead or dying(red screen) in their cockpit. If they do survive they are out of the fight and are lucky to get back home. Extremely effective against fighters and bombers alike.

If you need a tracer round( I don't use them) then put in another AP round followed by an incendiary white round for 4 and 5 guns only, you don't want to present yourself to the enemy lighting up the sky with your rounds.
:cheers:

[Headshot]

For those of you flying only single player the easiest thing to do is go to you multi player page, find an empty server,enter the server then change your loadouts. Most importantly hit the save button. Now you can quit the server and try your new load out.

Another thing to do (please correct me if I'm wrong guys) once you have changed your ammo type clear your cache in the documents folder otherwise you may get the wrong graphic happening during play.

[zuma75]

I can't seem to get the loadouts to work in single player. I followed the directions and set them up in multiplayer. They all work fine in multiplayer. I go into single player and always end up with the default loadout. I just named the loadout custom in multiplayer, and if I select custom in single player I still get the default loadout. If I select loadout for the plane in single player, I see my custom loadout, but it never loads to the plane when I launch a quick mission to test it. Sometimes the game completely freezes up when I go into loadout in multi or single player and I have to use task manager to close the game. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Does anyone have any ideas?

[fly4ever]

Hi chaps,

I suppose the "Vertical" & "Horizontal" settings you're stating here counts for the correct position rather than the reversed one due to the wrong translation from our Russian friends.Thus,by saying for example "Vertical:400" & "Horizontal:145" you're meaning the "400" must be placed in the "Hor.Convergence" (bottom) box and the "145" in the "Vert.Convergence" (top) box, is that correct?

Nick

[1lokos]

Fly4ever,

This Horizontal X Vertical translation issue was corrected in TF patchs.

Sokol1

[fly4ever]

Ah,o.k...then values must be entered as seen in game,Horiz.to Horiz. and Vert.to Vert.!

I already tried Phil's settings with my Spit and...hooray!!!
...They all gone down in flames!!! :thumbsup:

Thanks Sokol and Phil for the settings!!!

Cheers
Nick

[Mysticpuma]

Great post Catseye.

I wonder if any 110 pilots or 109 pilots would add there settings like you did so they can be copy and pasted into the user ini file.

Much appreciated, cheers, MP


Hi Fatal_Error,

Go to the location below and open User.ini with a text editor.


C:\Users\XXXX\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover - MOD\User.ini

Once you have one set of guns configured through the in-game editor, you can go to the above file and cut and past that into all the RAF aircraft you want.

Mine is below. Different descriptions of course for your loadouts.

(ps. give mine a try) :)

Cheers,
Cats . . .



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serialNumber CAT
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[Aircraft.SpitfireMkI]
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weapons 1

[Catseye]

Great post Catseye.

I wonder if any 110 pilots or 109 pilots would add there settings like you did so they can be copy and pasted into the user ini file.

Much appreciated, cheers, MP

Hi MP,
Glad I could be of help.
I too would like to know the settings of some of the 109 pilots.

Cheers,
Cats . . . .

[ATAG_Lolsav]

This thread has so many valuable input. Stickie? :thumbsup:

[Catseye]

This thread has so many valuable input. Stickie? :thumbsup:

It does indeed.
It's great to see how different pilots use their loadouts and particularly for me - is to understand their reasoning for choice.

All good stuff,

Cheers,
Cats . . .

[\Hawk/]

Are the different colour traces supposed to do just that. e.g. Yellow - Fire Yellow and Red fire Red because all my tracers look white in the game.

[Little_D]

I too would like to know the settings of some of the 109 pilots.

Hi catseye here is a setting from a 109 Pilot :),

Nose MG`s: H: 250m V:150, belting: default loadout ( is Historical ) AP,AP,AP,AP, Tracer, Incendary,Incendary,Incendary,Incendary
Cannons: H: 150m V:400m, belting: default loadout (is Histroical + some changes) 3x Minengeschoss, 1x Brandsprenggranate, 1x Panzersprenggranate ( is AP+HE ), so i have a HE that explode on impact and one HE that go into the plane and explode than.

this belting and convergence is good for shots from 175m down to 125m and was in 4.0 very usefull for PK`s :) and is in 4.3 too, even with this little problem. as i aim in most of the fights for the engin/cockpit section there is no difference for me between 4.0 and 4.3 in getting PK`s.

regards

Little_D

[Catseye]

Hi catseye here is a setting from a 109 Pilot :),

Nose MG`s: H: 250m V:150, belting: default loadout ( is Historical ) AP,AP,AP,AP, Tracer, Incendary,Incendary,Incendary,Incendary
Cannons: H: 150m V:400m, belting: default loadout (is Histroical + some changes) 3x Minengeschoss, 1x Brandsprenggranate, 1x Panzersprenggranate ( is AP+HE ), so i have a HE that explode on impact and one HE that go into the plane and explode than.

this belting and convergence is good for shots from 175m down to 125m and was in 4.0 very usefull for PK`s :) and is in 4.3 too, even with this little problem. as i aim in most of the fights for the engin/cockpit section there is no difference for me between 4.0 and 4.3 in getting PK`s.

regards

Little_D

Good stuff Little_D,
Thanks a bunch . . . I will have to load these up and compare results.
Always nice to see what the "other pilot" uses. :)

Cheers,
Cats . . .

ps. just to confirm - is your figure correct for the nose mg's - - - not the reverse?

[ATAG_Lewis]

Spits and Hurris

183 x 183

Armour Piercing (1 in every gun)
De Wilde (1 in every gun)

[Little_D]

ps. just to confirm - is your figure correct for the nose mg's - - - not the reverse?

Hi Catseye,

no, it is all ok as it is :) explanation, hope this makes sence :-):

with V:400m for the cannons, the 20mm rounds will cross the gunsighn line the first time at 150m and the second time at 400m. to get the max of both bullet typs on the target at 150m, i put V:150m for the nose MG`s and they will cross the gunsighnline the second time at about 250m - 300m. so for long range shots 250 - 300m with the nose MG`s i have the same lead angle as at 150m and this is 0 lead angle.

and for red planes i use H: 125m, V:125m with catmix :)

regards

Little_D

[Catseye]

Hi Catseye,

nput V:150m for the nose MG`s and they will cross the gunsighnline the second time at about 250m - 300m. so for long range shots 250 - 300m with the nose MG`s i have the same lead angle as at 150m and this is 0 lead angle.

Little_D

Interesting!

Do you not find that at V:150m that they fall short at 300m?

The reason I'm asking is because I use the reverse process and I'm curious now as to which one would work better for close in and distance shots.

For example: I have H:183m and V:440m. Which makes the bullet travel slightly high at the first crossing and crosses again at around 350-400m. Because my guns are all wing mounted, the H:185 allows me to reach out to about 350m and make contact. Having to deal with both Cannons and Rifle Calibre rounds to land on target is quite an interesting set of ballistics.

I'm going to play around a bit with your settings on a Hurricane and see how they compare for close in and distance. + plus the turning fight and how much lead is required.

Cheers,
Cats . . .

[Little_D]

Hi Catseye,

damn you are right, i looked at the balistic pic i have from the 109 and worked on it with gimp ( move the line from Nose MG`s to 150m ) the bullets will drop at 200m little bit under the gunsighn line. but ingame i hit with this settings at 250m - 300m the target with my nose MG`s, from death six without any lead angle. so is only the pic wrong as is has not the right scale or is something wrong ingame? it was in 4.0 so and is in 4.3 the same.

when you try out my settings for the Hurricane H:125, V:125, it works up to 150m distance and is also good for ranges under 125m. please check this too in game:

sensetivety for elevator to 1.0, sensetivity for ailerons to 0.5 and for rudder to 0.75. this makes at least for me, that the redplanes flying smooth and i get no nosebouncing when i have to correct my lead, to aim for special parts. this is also my settings for my 109.

8613

regards

Little_D