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    Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    Have you ever heard this?

    RAF Pilot: “Oi’ve got 109’s on me tyle!”
    Yank Pilot: “Angels?”
    RAF Pilot: [Pitch increasing] “No, not Oinjels, one-oh-noine’s! “
    Aussie Pilot: “He manes, “Wot’s your altitude, mate.”
    Yank Pilot: “Why does he want to know my altitude?”
    Aussie Pilot: “Not your altitude, Yank… his altitude”
    Yank Pilot: “I don’t know his altitude… Hey Spitty, what’s your altitude?”
    ….Silence
    Yank Pilot: “Spitty with the 109 on your tail, what’s your altitude?”
    RAF Pilot: [Pitch now Soprano] “Oi’m in an Hurrycane, at two thousand with three 109’s on me tyle”
    Aussie Pilot: “Where are you? “
    RAF Pilot: “Over this rivah near the city….”

    Bud Abbot: “Who’s on first?”
    Lou Costello: “I don’t know!”
    Etc., etc.!

    You could sell some of our radio communications here at Cliffs of Dover (CLoD) to the late night Jimmy Fallon show. But, every goof at CLoD that I’ve heard on TeamSpeak has always been a repeat performance of mistakes that happen in the real world by pilots at every level. You’ve done it, I’ve done it, but it doesn’t need to continue that way!

    A recent forum post by a new recruit to CLoD asking for guidance with the jargon used in our simulator has inspired me to start this thread soliciting ways to effectively and realistically use our TeamSpeak radios like the RAF/RN did during the Battle of Britain. My personal experience is in the procedures and techniques used since the 1970’s, but I know that some of us (you) have learned the actual RAF and RN language of the 1940-1941 period. Please share it (and your sources) with us here as long as it is authentic and not simply “Cool”, or “the way you like to say it.”

    Radio Basics

    There is an order that aviators use when transmitting on the airplane’s radio. It has developed over many years, and while there is no requirement here that you speak this way, it does make a lot of sense. I must reemphasize that CLoD has no procedures for you to follow, other than the no Politics, no Religion and no Profanity rules, so this thread is just a way to present the historically correct radio techniques.

    What comes first? “Joe, Fidget…”

    Example: ”Fidget”, wants to talk to “Joe” and tell him that he’s waiting for him at Dover at 3000 feet to escort him in his Blenheim to the war zone in France.

    Think about it; the first thing you want to do is “Dial the number and announce who’s calling.” In other words, call the specific person to whom you wish to speak. It can be as simple as “Joe, Fidget…”. For emphasis, use “Joe, this is Fidget…”. or “Joe, Fidget calling…” (If you feel particularly British that day). The Important things to remember is that you speak the recipient’s name first, not the sender’s. It gets receiver’s attention and if it’s his name, he’ll then listen up. If it’s not his name, he can ignore the call and continue to evade the three 109’s trying to kill him in his Hurrycane. The second name is of course, your own. This is the “Caller ID” element and is essential. Properly done, the caller should precede his call sign with the aircraft model in the very first call up... Example: Spitfire Fidget, Blenheim Joe, etc.

    Movies and TV shows have given us the venerable, “ London Calling Spitfire group 42,etc.” which has, over time, confused the sequence for some of us. Calls like this are made “in the clear” to designated listeners and are usually weather or intelligence reports requiring no reply. Example: “Sky King, Sky King, message follows: Alpha, Zulu, Golf…” type coded reports may be sent this way.

    What’s next after contact is established? “Dover, Angels Three (or three thousand).”

    Next, include your position. In aviation, position is always three-dimensional, so it includes your altitude (Height in 1940’s England), following a point over the earth (Dover). You might as well include it in your initial call up because it’s the next thing someone will ask you if you don’t.

    Finally, state your message in clear, well thought out language. “Ready to escort you. Please advise when you have me in sight.Ovah’ [included for British emphasis]”

    So, there you have it; instead of a sixty second question and answer exercise, you have a five second message by saying:
    “Joe, Fidget. Dover, Angels Three, Ready to escort you. Advise when you have me in sight. Ovah!

    A few Example Call outs:

    To get someone’s attention: “Joe, Fidget…” Joe will then respond, “Go ahead, Fidget” [Starts chit-chat]

    To announce traffic pattern activity, simply address the station’s air traffic as “Traffic”:
    “Hawkinge Traffic, Spitfire Fidget taking off across the grass to the east.” [Get out of my way…]
    “Manston Traffic, Blenheim Fidget , left base , landing to the east.” [Don’t let them shoot me down…]

    For immediate assistance, simply generalize the call recipient name such as:
    “RAF Fighters, Fidget calling from ovah Dovah at Angels three. Two BF-110’s east bound, climbing through Angels four point five. Request assistance. Ovah!”

    For a general report to everyone, you may omit the receiver from the call up, but you should ID yourself:
    “Fidget’s reporting a northbound 109 at five hundred over the allied ships.”

    In the heat of battle, always at least say who you are, where you are, and your Height. (Altitude)
    “Fidget’s in a terrible fix ovah Dovah at three thousand! Help!”

    Unrealistic Callouts:

    A fundamental rule in inflight communications is that the less said over the radio, the better. In the game environment however, there is always a tradeoff between realism and recreation, so unless the mission is briefed to be authentic, be gentle with those pilots that do a lot of Polish chit-chatting.

    Play-By-Play Combat: “I see him… he’s coming around… ooo, ooo, now I’ve got him… good hits… turning right… ooo, ooo, ” Can be replaced by, “Down”, if you win or “@$#T”, if you don’t. Use a “Push-to-talk switch and don’t monopolize the radio. Save the bragging for after the fight! We all like a good re-cap.

    Position reports with no tactical information should be avoided. No one cares if you are over Deal at 9000 and going to Ramsgate (unless you are responding to a call for help). Ask yourself if this radio call you’re about to make does anyone any good? If not, remain silent.

    The plane has no voice interface. In real life, Gear Up, Throttle, Prop, Radiators, Bombsight settings, etc., are never called out over the air unless it’s for training or operational necessity. This is not, nor should it be a prohibition in CLoD, but it’s just not done when practicing authentic military aviation. However, Flaps and Gear are frequently reported down for landing, depending on the controlling authority’s procedures at the airport.

    After takeoff, leader should fly normally, except with reduced power, to provide a thrust advantage to his wingmen. Wingmen are simply expected to maintain position; therefore turns are not typically called out by leader. However, since inflight checks and large changes in attitude or power are typically hand-signaled between ships, we CLoD’ers have no choice but to use the radio for these events. If a wingman cannot keep up, he should ask the flight leader for a specific power reduction.
    Example of wingman requesting a 500 RPM cut: “Fidget Lead, this is two, give me 500 RPM”
    Normal CLoD leader call outs: “Reducing Power”, “Levelling off”, “Climb check”, etc.

    The job of a good wingman is to say “Two”, “Bingo”, and be there!
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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    There is a real world standard sequence for inflight reports:

    Acronym: I-P-T-A-R [Identification, Position, Time, Altitude, Remarks].

    I-1. [Call Sign] That is, the party you want to talk to such as "Reno 22", "Attention RAF Fighters". The recipient of the call should instantly listen up.
    I-2. [Call Sign] Your call sign comes next. That way, if it's "Sky King" or "Fidget" you can tune him out and ignore the call.
    P. Your position over or on the ground. "Over the allied ships" or "On the ground at Hawkinge", etc.
    T. The time your reported event occurred. "Five minutes ago", "Nine thirty-two", etc. Obviously, if it's right now, ignore the time item.
    A. Your Altitude. Communication is what's important. "Angels three", "Cherubs six", "One Four Thousand" (preferred over "Fourteen"), are all OK.
    R. Remarks. "Over Calais" reporting a point, "Four 109's at six thousand", "I'm under attack over Lympne at Angels three", in other words, the message from you, to the right person, in clear language.

    Basically, who you are calling, who you are, what time it is, your altitude (Height), and your message.

    For more information on comm procedures, including the phonetic alphabet, from the United States' FAA, see:

    http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publi...aim0402.html.1
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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    Thus the need, for those interested, to join a formal squadron that utilizes comms protocols ie., brevity codes.

    It won't happen in ATAG or in flying with the general public on an open server.

    Large numbers of pilots with different skill sets, different criteria etc.

    ATAG is not a formal squadron that attempts to mimic the BOB but rather a group of individuals with a common interest in WWII sims that like to fly together. I think it is in the motherhood statement for ATAG.

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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    I agree it'll never happen here, but on a 4hour sortie in SOW I can say 10 words all night and be well in control as a wingman.

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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    And in the complete opposite vein of what has been said above our Staffel use proper Luftwaffe brevity from forming up untill contact with the enemy. It just makes it a bit more immersive for us , we are all UK or USA based but also have a German pilot in our ranks , who has the decency to not laugh at our pathetic pronunciations and all round butchery of his native language What he makes of my attempts in my harsh Belfast accent is beyond me
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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    Danke schoen, Herr Meyer,

    Whether Bloke or Hun, I agree that the need for conciseness in communications is an extension of courtesy and respect for all the other folks who are also using the TeamSpeak radio system. Everyone recognizes the right that we each have to just "Shoot the bull", sometimes while online, but when there is an active mission taking place, chatter can quickly devolve into mayhem with lots of rudeness! Brevity is clarity!

    This thread is not supposed to be some "military regulation" on comm procedures. Moreover, it is simply a place to gather what works and doesn't work in the TeamSpeak environment for the sake of our friends who love the game but have no knowledge of what is proper to do and not do on the radio. If anyone has a constructive comment relating to this element of flight discipline, I urge him to post it here!

    Not long ago, I spoke with a lad on TeamSpeak who had the straight skinny on the differences between Left, Right, Port and Starboard as it applied to RAF and RN operations. Being busy with WWII at the time, I forgot all he said but I sure wish he'd post that gem of information here for all to profit from!

    That's the kind of stuff we can all learn from, whether we apply it in the game or not.
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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    Fidget have i posted something wrong in this thread by going on about how we in my squad use LW brevity ? , i suspect i have .
    If it is in the wrong thread or offends anyone please ask admin to take it out . I meant no harm, i thought people who are not native German speakers
    and play this game might have been interested in how other non German speakers but fly in a virtual LW squad try to extract that extra bit of realism
    out of the sim. My apologies i thought i was being constructive but i seem to have dropped the ball so to speak
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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    Quote Originally Posted by 9./JG52 Meyer View Post
    Fidget have i posted something wrong in this thread by going on about how we in my squad use LW brevity ? , i suspect i have .
    If it is in the wrong thread or offends anyone please ask admin to take it out . I meant no harm, i thought people who are not native German speakers
    and play this game might have been interested in how other non German speakers but fly in a virtual LW squad try to extract that extra bit of realism
    out of the sim. My apologies i thought i was being constructive but i seem to have dropped the ball so to speak
    NO, NO! You did not offend anyone. I apologize for not having split my last post due to sheer laziness!

    I wanted to reinforce the idea that people should post voluntarily to provide useful information for newcomers, not simply debate the pros and cons of having a thread like this. I should have concluded answering your very helpful post before starting a new thought. Please forgive my haste.
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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    Cheers mate thought i had derped , all's well. Thanks for your quick reply
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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    Position reports with no tactical information should be avoided. No one cares if you are over Deal at 9000 and going to Ramsgate (unless you are responding to a call for help). Ask yourself if this radio call you’re about to make does anyone any good? If not, remain silent.

    Used when getting the band together so not necessarily a no no. Especially when you don't have the fancy avionics of todays jets.

    The plane has no voice interface. In real life, Gear Up, Throttle, Prop, Radiators, Bombsight settings, etc., are never called out over the air unless it’s for training or operational necessity. This is not, nor should it be a prohibition in CLoD, but it’s just not done when practicing authentic military aviation. However, Flaps and Gear are frequently reported down for landing, depending on the controlling authority’s procedures at the airport.

    Agree for the most part with power settings, but sugar calls are given in the real world fighter community for new wingmen so its not necessarily a no no. Gear and Flaps are reported up in most cases due to retraction limitations allowing your lead to accelerate on section go's (formation takeoffs.) Some of these might be requested by a flight lead, aka airborne but usually we use an aux freq. Depends on how much of your flights bucket(task saturation) is full in regards to making those sugar calls.

    Mostly everything else is spot on.

    The key is use a dedicated TS channel or whisper lists if you wanna gnats @ss it.
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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    Salut Gents.

    Old men have a tendence to talk a bit more then needed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpPQE56Zezk

    Not every one on the TS had sink(g)ing english in the background with the dinner hanging on to does two titie´s

    I think if pilot´s need to push and talk,they get more focus on what they are and shut say over coms

    Iam not saying that you make that a rule.. iam just saying that it might help with the coms

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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarhead2b View Post
    Position reports with no tactical information should be avoided. No one cares if you are over Deal at 9000 and going to Ramsgate (unless you are responding to a call for help). Ask yourself if this radio call you’re about to make does anyone any good? If not, remain silent.

    Used when getting the band together so not necessarily a no no. Especially when you don't have the fancy avionics of todays jets.

    The plane has no voice interface. In real life, Gear Up, Throttle, Prop, Radiators, Bombsight settings, etc., are never called out over the air unless it’s for training or operational necessity. This is not, nor should it be a prohibition in CLoD, but it’s just not done when practicing authentic military aviation. However, Flaps and Gear are frequently reported down for landing, depending on the controlling authority’s procedures at the airport.

    Agree for the most part with power settings, but sugar calls are given in the real world fighter community for new wingmen so its not necessarily a no no. Gear and Flaps are reported up in most cases due to retraction limitations allowing your lead to accelerate on section go's (formation takeoffs.) Some of these might be requested by a flight lead, aka airborne but usually we use an aux freq. Depends on how much of your flights bucket(task saturation) is full in regards to making those sugar calls.

    Mostly everything else is spot on.

    The key is use a dedicated TS channel or whisper lists if you wanna gnats @ss it.

    Great Feedback Jarhead2b!

    Sometimes I get very parochial in my thinking, assuming that all trained pilots use the same comm procedures that I did (do). Not knowing your background from your ATAG profile, I have to assume you are a veteran of US Marine Corps aviation from your call sign. Great to hear from a Navy department pro!
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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    Thx Fidge...Coming from plenty of SA sucking done by me being AFU<----actual LSO short hand abbreviation @ work.

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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    Many flyers seem to be enhancing the CLoD experience by using these "Real Life" comm techniques. Some of us even play Air Traffic Controllers when the comm traffic is light... Great Fun!

    This would be a good thread to "Sticky".

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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    This is a compilation of terms submitted by fellow CLoD users in response to a request for a glossary by a new player.

    Red is Allied.
    Blue is Axis.

    Apologies for the formatting...

    TS Glossary.png
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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    Okay. But is there a way to make comms sound like broadcast from a throat mic instead of digitally corrected sound that wasn't even an itch in my daddy's pants over the channel in 1940?
    I have sex daily, or is it dyslexia? I'm so confused.

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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    Quote Originally Posted by Throweight View Post
    Okay. But is there a way to make comms sound like broadcast from a throat mic instead of digitally corrected sound that wasn't even an itch in my daddy's pants over the channel in 1940?
    indeed there is....kinda
    colander made a ts plugin http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.co...read.php?t=791

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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    Quote Originally Posted by Throweight View Post
    Okay. But is there a way to make comms sound like broadcast from a throat mic instead of digitally corrected sound that wasn't even an itch in my daddy's pants over the channel in 1940?
    Simply narrow the high and low frequency responses with:

    https://www.myteamspeak.com/addons/f...1-19c2fab29def

    However, this is a radio procedure thread, not a TeamSpeak modifications one. Please check out the TeamSpeak area of the forums for technical improvements.
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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    A question came up on TeamSpeak asking what the "Canterbury Traffic, Left base, Gear down, Full stop", call made by some of us is all about. This is an opportunity to introduce a few terms used in traffic patterns [USA] also called circuits [UK]:

    "Canterbury Traffic" - (Recipient of this call). Basically, it's a position report to whoever I'm trying to communicate with, in this case, anyone presently concerned with flight operations at Canterbury (Inflight or on the ground).

    "Left Base" - This is the caller's location in the traffic pattern. (Left base means he's 90° to final approach), intending to turn Left onto the final approach.

    "Gear Down" - (Required by some authorities, not all) This "Gets it on the tape" (Records) that the gear has been confirmed down and locked by the pilot. When not required, some pilots include this anyway as a memory jogger to check the gear down lights.

    "Full Stop"
    - The pilot is announcing what he's going to do after landing. He's going to use all of the runway until he taxis clear.

    Some Other positions reported in CLoD may be:

    Initial: Flying towards or over the runway in the direction of landing as if on final approach except at a constant height of about 1000' above ground level (AGL) in CLoD.

    Downwind: Abeam the runway flying opposite the landing direction at 1000' AGL. Preparing for the base leg.

    Break or Pitch(out): Aggressive turning course reversal from Initial to the downwind leg to slow down and configure for landing.

    Some other configuration reports:

    No Flap: Extra speed and landing distance may be required.

    Battle Damaged: Gear, Flaps other equipment is inoperative. Expect a controlled crash landing.

    Some other landing intentions:

    Touch-and-go [USA], Bump [UK]. Expect a landing and takeoff without stopping on the runway.

    Low approach: Practice go-around from final approach. No landing planned.

    Gear Down with Two: Formation approach planned. When leader adds "Gear Down" or "Low Approach", the wingman responds with "Two Gear Down" or "Two Gear Down, Low approach", to confirm he has completed the required landing checks.

    This is basic information adapted by me for CLoD only. For more details, see:

    http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publi.../AIM/index.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Fidget View Post
    [....]Unrealistic Callouts:

    Play-By-Play Combat: “I see him… he’s coming around… ooo, ooo, now I’ve got him… good hits… turning right… ooo, ooo, ” Can be replaced by, “Down”, if you win or “@$#T”, if you don’t. Use a “Push-to-talk switch and don’t monopolize the radio. Save the bragging for after the fight! We all like a good re-cap.

    Position reports with no tactical information should be avoided. No one cares if you are over Deal at 9000 and going to Ramsgate (unless you are responding to a call for help). Ask yourself if this radio call you’re about to make does anyone any good? If not, remain silent.[....]
    So many gems in this thread. Required reading. TTT!

    Thanks Fidget.
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    So many gems in this thread. Required reading. TTT!
    Glad you gave this a bump, as my radio skills need some work.

    We were flying together briefly the other night, Turn, and you might recall my confused attempts to explain where I was: "I'm at your three o'clock... Wait, nine o'clock... *glances at clock on wall* Crap, crap, three o'clock." And I recently replied, when asked a yes-or-no question: "Roger. Dammit, I mean affirmative. Or roger. Whatever."

    The worst part, though, is thinking of phonetic-alphabet terms for those of us who didn't get military training to drill them into our heads. In that spirit, I've posted these to my wall at home: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_pho...abet#Alphabets

    They're historically accurate, too, so no more "Top Gun"-sounding target callouts for me!
    "Bunch of monkeys on the ceiling, sir! Grab your egg and fours and let's get the bacon delivered!"

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    Thanks for that link, SBS. I'm changing my handle to Kaylemen... ;)

    When I hear brevity, I listen up.
    When I hear banter, I tune out.

    Best advice I have for newbs (speaking generally; not to you) is to keep off mic for those first couple hours, (or days) and just listen. Hopefully, one quickly grows an ear for what works and what doesn't. And hopefully there's enough 'Fidget-ese' online at the time to model after...!

    Thinking back at my first hours on TS, I grimace. I grimace, but I remember. That's where this poignant thread comes in...gentle guidance to most, but a cod-slap in the face to those few others.

    (again, not directed to you, SBS...had fun flying with you and hope to do it again soon!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerBanterSir View Post
    Glad you gave this a bump, as my radio skills need some work.

    We were flying together briefly the other night, Turn, and you might recall my confused attempts to explain where I was: "I'm at your three o'clock... Wait, nine o'clock... *glances at clock on wall* Crap, crap, three o'clock." And I recently replied, when asked a yes-or-no question: "Roger. Dammit, I mean affirmative. Or roger. Whatever."

    The worst part, though, is thinking of phonetic-alphabet terms for those of us who didn't get military training to drill them into our heads. In that spirit, I've posted these to my wall at home: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_pho...abet#Alphabets

    They're historically accurate, too, so no more "Top Gun"-sounding target callouts for me!
    This is a great listing! Very interesting how they changed over the years. Charlie must be royalty... they never did get rid of him on the lists.

    More British-American translations here:

    http://www.travelfurther.net/dictionaries/
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Fidget View Post
    Have you ever heard this?

    RAF Pilot: “Oi’ve got 109’s on me tyle!”
    Yank Pilot: “Angels?”
    RAF Pilot: [Pitch increasing] “No, not Oinjels, one-oh-noine’s! “
    Aussie Pilot: “He manes, “Wot’s your altitude, mate.”
    Yank Pilot: “Why does he want to know my altitude?”
    Aussie Pilot: “Not your altitude, Yank… his altitude”
    Yank Pilot: “I don’t know his altitude… Hey Spitty, what’s your altitude?”
    ….Silence
    Yank Pilot: “Spitty with the 109 on your tail, what’s your altitude?”
    RAF Pilot: [Pitch now Soprano] “Oi’m in an Hurrycane, at two thousand with three 109’s on me tyle”
    Aussie Pilot: “Where are you? “
    RAF Pilot: “Over this rivah near the city….”

    Bud Abbot: “Who’s on first?”
    Lou Costello: “I don’t know!”
    Etc., etc.!


    The job of a good wingman is to say “Two”, “Bingo”, and be there!

    yes, I am lissening (like this) more times...

    thanks for this post... very helpfull... I just give you like

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    I did say to the other pilots a few weeks ago... can we say over... because everyone talks trough each other on ts. Then they say.. i am over Dover over... over over.. ppffff. So i gave up..

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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    The term "Over" originated in the days before multiplexing when the receiving radioman had to throw a switch to stop listening and start talking. As you can imagine, common sense usually prevails but "Over" is still an emphatic way to say "I'm done speaking..."

    Terminating comments are now so varied that I'm afraid we have to depend on good listening habits and common sense to determine if the frequency (Channel) is clear. For example, these are substitutes for "Over" that I have heard in my career:

    International Flight services - They just repeat their ID such as "Gander..." instead of saying "Over".

    ATC Towers or Ground Controllers - Will use "Over..." if they are emphasizing the need for you to reply.

    Air Traffic Control Centers (USA) - Rarely anything, but sometimes, "Go Ahead..." if they want you to answer an inquiry.

    "Go ahead" is probably the most common modern way to say "I'm finished talking, and I'm waiting for you to reply." For example, "Pan American 222, do you wish to divert north or south of the storm? ...Go Ahead." PAA 222 will then answer the question.

    "Advise ready to copy" Is ATC's way of telling you to prepare to write down a new route clearance and for other listeners to stand by.

    "Ready to copy..." is then used to advise ATC to speak and for all listeners to stand by.

    "Break... " This is a way to change the person you're talking to without releasing the microphone button. For example "'Escort 2, turn left.' Break, 'Escort 1, where are you?'"

    "Blocked" is a way to tell the last speaker that his transmission was unreadable due to a simultaneous transmission by someone.

    The best way to avoid talking over each other is to listen up! But if it does occur, stop talking and let the other fellow speak. That's courtesy which will add greatly to your interpersonal respect score!
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    Re: Basic Radio Procedures and Techniques

    "Break... " This is a way to change the person you're talking to without releasing the microphone button.
    For a second there I thought commercial pilots had to deal with 109s on their sixes!

    Interesting stuff, Fidget. Now if only you can explain that stereotypical flat "pilot voice" one always hears over the intercom...
    "Bunch of monkeys on the ceiling, sir! Grab your egg and fours and let's get the bacon delivered!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerBanterSir View Post
    For a second there I thought commercial pilots had to deal with 109s on their sixes!

    Interesting stuff, Fidget. Now if only you can explain that stereotypical flat "pilot voice" one always hears over the intercom...
    My voice is modified to simulate real radio sound. I'm told that it works. To do this, download the TS3 Plugin, "RadioFX". Using its "Radio FX" Feature, I restrict "Frequency Range Out" to 600 to 6000 Hz to transmit the aviation sound.

    I also change the incoming voices to the same range, mainly to eliminate bass "Booming" through my subwoofer in the surround sound system. It also improves the performance of the "ButtKicker Gamer II" system that I use. Most guys use headphones so it may not work the same for them.

    This prevents the CIA and MI-6 from tracking me...I actually sound like Wally Cox.
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    Hi Fidget,

    Any tips on the destruction and ring modulator options for this plug in. I have no clue what they do!


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    It's ok, I figured it out


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