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    Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!



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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    Hardly something you should label with "enjoy" but yeah..

    Desperate times.

    Can't even imagine the feelings both Allied and Axis pilots went through.
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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    Interesting...We all know it went on...even when pilots denied it...it happened

    Thanks for sharing Beagle...good spot!
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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    Enjoy! Was intended to appreciate the seldom story of a WWII pilot telling his tale, which is, of course horrific. I believe a Gentlemans agreement was in force here and for one unfortunate German pilot, by breaking this agreement, his life ended in the same horrific manner. So yeah. Enjoy!

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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    I'm confused. Clarence "Bud" Anderson relates exactly the same story, except he was the one doing the shooting. Maybe it's just them getting old, and confused.

    I take my hat off to them both, and all the other pilots who knew the odds and went up everyday, anyway.

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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    Spot on! I had a check and found this old gem:



    Buds most important statement, in my opinion comes at 1:39

    Thanks for the heads up badfinger!

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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    Sometimes though, things went a little different, like in the case of Franz Stigler and Charlie Brown :



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie...igler_incident
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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    Now that was a real cool story. Thanks ashikaga!

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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    I remember reading George Beurling's wartime memoirs in which he talks about an incident where a 109 pilot bailed out and was shot in his chute by his wingmen because they thought he was a British pilot. It made him almost physically sick to watch.

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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    I read about a German pilot who bailed and while hanging there in his chute the p-51 came screaming down and started to do a slowly shrinking orbit around him. He was sure he was going to get shot. and then the p-51 pilot did thumbs up and snapped a picture of him with a camera... i have no clue if its true or not.
    Tried to find it on the net again. could been Wikipedia.. but i could not, but i found this... its about bailing... but he bailed with a unstrapped chute...
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rapped-on.html
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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    Excellent read ATAG_Otyg. Thanks for the link.

    That must have been horrifiying. I also recall the story you have quoted however, can't find anything on the net.
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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    Quote Originally Posted by ashikaga View Post
    Sometimes though, things went a little different, like in the case of Franz Stigler and Charlie Brown :



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie...igler_incident
    There is another case of a P47 and a German who let it go limping back to England.

    Does anyone know any other case in any side? I just know these two cases.

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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    Quote Originally Posted by spartan18a View Post
    There is another case of a P47 and a German who let it go limping back to England.

    Does anyone know any other case in any side? I just know these two cases.
    Was that Robert s Johnson? In his case I believe the 190 ran out of ammunition after expending all of his remaining 7.9mm bullets (he'd already used the cannon) into the Jug but it just didn't go down! Eventually he landed back at Manston, but the plane was a write off. There were about 25 cannon shells in the plane and Johnson said that while counting the small calibre holes he got to 100 before he had to look in a different area!

    The P47 was sure tough.

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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    Mystic Puma made a phenomenal film about the Robert Johnson incident:

    http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/a...my-time-to-die

    About 30 minutes long and worth every second. There may be a better site to watch
    it, I just did a quick google search.
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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    Yes, I've seen this one before. Quite good! Robert S. Johnson also has an autobiography called "Thunderbolt!" and it is a very good read.

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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    Yep that was the one. Any other case?

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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    Quote Originally Posted by SorcererDave View Post
    I remember reading George Beurling's wartime memoirs in which he talks about an incident where a 109 pilot bailed out and was shot in his chute by his wingmen because they thought he was a British pilot. It made him almost physically sick to watch.
    Look up a guy named Clive "Killer" Caldwell.

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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    OWen J. Baggett - B-24 pilot, supposedly shot with his M1911 pistol at strafing Zero pilot while descending in parachute.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_J._Baggett
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_parachutists
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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    Quote Originally Posted by IIJG27Rich View Post
    Look up a guy named Clive "Killer" Caldwell.
    I know all about Clive Caldwell. If you're trying to make some sort of point that "the allies did it too!" I'm fully aware both sides did it. Doesn't stop the guys who did it from being cunts though.

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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    Quote Originally Posted by IIJG27Rich View Post
    Look up a guy named Clive "Killer" Caldwell.
    There are examples from all sides.

    Otto Schulz was a pilot with JG27 in the Desert, who ranked second only to Hans Joachim Marseille at one point in the scoring race there. (44 victories to 48)

    He ended up with 50 victories before being shot down and killed.

    He was an ardent Nazi and had a reputation for shooting enemy pilots in their chutes as well as strafing crash landed enemy pilots and planes... that was how he died... too focused on strafing his 50th kill to notice another Allied pilot coming in as he zoomed after the strafing run.

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    Re: Richard "Bud" Peterson: P-51 ace on shooting at parachutes...enjoy!

    Quote Originally Posted by RAF74_Buzzsaw View Post
    There are examples from all sides.

    Otto Schulz was a pilot with JG27 in the Desert, who ranked second only to Hans Joachim Marseille at one point in the scoring race there. (44 victories to 48)

    He ended up with 50 victories before being shot down and killed.

    He was an ardent Nazi and had a reputation for shooting enemy pilots in their chutes as well as strafing crash landed enemy pilots and planes... that was how he died... too focused on strafing his 50th kill to notice another Allied pilot coming in as he zoomed after the strafing run.
    Even though this was short, it was a good read.
    Great example of why if you REALLY go out looking for blood, you will find it.

    See-decide-attack-reverse.

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