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    Tab-7-1 Removed?

    So during the bomber night on server #2 a lot of us noticed that ATAG has found a way to disable the Tab-7-1 messages. Will that find it's way to the main server soon?

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    Re: Tab-7-1 Removed?

    Could be.
    This was an experiment. Would like to hear what the community think before moving it to server 1.

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    Re: Tab-7-1 Removed?

    I agree TAB 7 1 is too much like AWACS (except for the missing altitude info).

    Yesterday I found the otherwise-better TAB 4 1 flawed: "I have no trade for you" or "No enemy aircraft in range" when clearly enemy aircraft were aloft in droves all over the map at various altitudes. I repeatedly checked throughout the mission both the North and Central Radar Posts and never got a plot. Needs fixing.

    Ideally the gap in time from requesting a plot from radar and actually getting it should take a few minutes rather than the current 30 seconds or so. This would reflect the the chain of communication delay between pilot and Control.

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    Re: Tab-7-1 Removed?

    Only things wrong with Tab-7-1 are that it notes contacts that would be below a radar's horizon or are in ground or sea clutter (low-level a/c), contacts that are inland UK (although the network of spotters would presumably make possible some sort of approximate track), it differentiates between fighters and bombers, it's range is too great (over the continent), and it only gives approximate range and bearing for contacts outside a 15-mile radius. Oh yeah, and the Germans shouldn't have it at all. As each in-flight RAF squadron had their own controller who kept a running track of the squadron's position as well as any enemy contacts, an extended delay in reporting positions (including approximate altitudes) shouldn't be necessary. However, I'm not sure the resolution/target discrimination of CH radars, so once friendlies and enemies were mixed closely, the controller probably wasn't much help (perhaps "you should see him" should be about it when within a mile or two).

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    Re: Tab-7-1 Removed?

    Still, flying alone and on an unpopulated server, tab71 is very nice. especially for people who aren't blessed with a massive screen for spotting. It's only accurate within 15 miles anyways, so whats the big deal?
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    Re: Tab-7-1 Removed?

    Quote Originally Posted by KansasCS View Post
    Still, flying alone and on an unpopulated server, tab71 is very nice. especially for people who aren't blessed with a massive screen for spotting. It's only accurate within 15 miles anyways, so whats the big deal?
    If you fly a bomber you would know its a big deal, for both sides. There are ones who specialised themselves to be bomber hunters using Tab 7/1. When i flew a bomber i would think its normal to get shot down in over 50% of the times (beeing realistic), specially if the sortie is without cover. I wouldnt expect to get shot down 90% of the times, no matter what altitude or course i try to take. So.. it will increase the chances of the bombers to actually get to the target and come back.

    Colander the only odd thing i found when i was in the bomber, during bomber night, was that my compass would only work if i put the mouse over. It didnt move to correct heading... something within the script?

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    Re: Tab-7-1 Removed?

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Lolsav View Post
    the only odd thing i found when i was in the bomber, during bomber night, was that my compass would only work if i put the mouse over. It didnt move to correct heading... something within the script?
    That has nothing to do with me and I doubt the mission could cause that.

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    Re: Tab-7-1 Removed?

    Is it possible to have one of the missions on server 1 to have Tab-7-1 removed as part of a trial?

    I loved not having it on the bombing mission, thanks for the great surprise ☺


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