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    Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    I've noticed when flying my defiant that when i zoom right in, on my 4K monitor, that the skins look low res - especailly the weathering. They probably aren't for 1080p, not zoomed right in.

    Are there any UHD skins for Spits / Hurricane / Defiant ? or a process to upgrade current skins ?

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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    FLYING your defiant?

    I think 2048 x 2048 is the biggest you can go.

    After that its all down to the art, the image smoothing/blurring over groups of pixels and the attention to detail and the quality/file type. ultimately though there are only so many pixels I believe.


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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    Thinking about it, the weathering is hard coded but there are skins by MAJOR SETBACK, KEEFYBOY and CAPTAIN FARRELL that incorporate wear and weathering. These are beautifully produced skins and negate much of the need for the in game overlay.

    Finally, you have a 4K monitor but what resolution are you playing at?

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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boosterdog View Post
    Thinking about it, the weathering is hard coded but there are skins by MAJOR SETBACK, KEEFYBOY and CAPTAIN FARRELL that incorporate wear and weathering. These are beautifully produced skins and negate much of the need for the in game overlay.

    Finally, you have a 4K monitor but what resolution are you playing at?

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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    Quote Originally Posted by HurricaneHarvest View Post
    3840 X 2160 @ 30 FPS moslty high settings - textures HIGH.
    So yes Id imagine that what you are seeing are the results of lower res work from the original hardcoding (square paint chips etc). I dont think that there is a way to upgrade this other than use other's custom skins or perhaps gimp or photoshop some weathering yourself.

    I still curious as to how you are flying a Defiant.

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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    Quote Originally Posted by HurricaneHarvest View Post


    Are there any UHD skins for Spits / Hurricane / Defiant ? or a process to upgrade current skins ?
    You may have missed the download section of the forum. If so it's here:

    http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.co.../Downloads.php
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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    All parts of the aircraft exterior have to fit on the 2048x2048 skin.
    Therefore the bigger the aircraft, the less detail there will be.
    If you have a small aircraft with few parts then the wings (for example) will be bigger on the skin, so there will be more pixels per wing... so more detailed.
    Bombers will generally look less detailed than fighters.

    I don't think the planes look bad, but I'm not using a 4K screen. Can you post a screenshot of the skin you are using on the defiant? It might just be a badly made skin.

    This is about the limit to the detail you can get on a He 111 (an old skin from an older version of the game. It won't look good in the present version. It will be too dark):

    COD-MS-He-111H6-Sktz-VQ+BA-Sonderkommando-Blaich-raid-on-Fort-Lamy-Chad.jpg

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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    Not actually flying a defiant, just setting up a battle with AI then following a particualr defiant around - using SHIFT / CTRL F2 and F10 to rotate around the aircraft, Then Zoom camera as close as possible to see fine details.

    This next picture is an excellent example of the contrast between the High detailed Turret and gunner, and the lowish, blurry detail of the skin and weathering - the 2 stand out.

    DefiantDeadGunner1.jpg
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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    The skin isn't loading properly for some reason. Usually it does after a few minutes. You should clearly see the rivets. Give it a bit of time and fly for a while. It might load slowly.
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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    Quote Originally Posted by major_setback View Post
    The skin isn't loading properly for some reason. Usually it does after a few minutes. You should clearly see the rivets. Give it a bit of time and fly for a while. It might load slowly.
    That plane is flying over water .. it took off, fought, then flew over water .. how long should i wait ?
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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    You'll have to forgive me if there is something im not getting about resolutions but in zooming right into the defiant at your resolution, the a/c skin will be at 100% when its filling approx 2/3 of your screen. The further you zoom in, the more distorted the image will become. So regardless of how fast the skin renders, at your res its not going to be sharp very close up as it being stretched to probably three times its size.

    Whats interesting in the image are the parts that are sharper- i dont have a defiant skin with the machine parts but it looks as if some parts of the 3D model may be larger on the skin pack than the main scale and thus retain their integrity longer.
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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    BTW

    I know its not UHD but there is a spitfire skin in UHT

    uht.jpg
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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    Quote Originally Posted by HurricaneHarvest View Post
    That plane is flying over water .. it took off, fought, then flew over water .. how long should i wait ?
    For me there is a point where the resolution suddenly 'snaps' and the skin looks clearer. I wouldn't know why it isn't happening for you. I can't help you with that issue. I only do skinning, and don't understand the technical side of the game at all.
    I hope someone else can help you with this. If you don't get an answer in this thread then post it in another section of the forum. It might get missed here.
    Sorry I can't help more.
    I may be totally wrong, but you should see sharp rivets.

    There might even be a problem with just the Defiant skin that no one has noticed before. Can you try other skins to see if it still happens with those?

    This is the defiant skin. It's one of those released early on, probably made by the original developers. You should see the rivets in-game:
    AirwarfareTemplateDefiantMkI.jpg

    A close-up of it (I made it a bit lighter so it's easy to see):
    riviting, isn't it.. 01.jpg

    So the skins in-game should really look something like this:
    riviting, isn't it.. 01b.jpg

    Close-up:
    riviting, isn't it.. 02d.jpg

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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    I think your PC/Video card is to weak. I`ve had the same issue with my former PC (GTX 660) like you, but if I was in the air, after a while it "snaps" in, like Major said. Then if I (or the AI) landed then it was blurry again. Now with the GTX970 and a decent PC I see all details on the ground with higest settings, clouds, lots of Planes and runs like a hot knife trough butter.

    http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r739/larry691/GZ-H%201_zpsdphexiii.jpg

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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    I think Larry is correct, a 580 is a good card but at that screen resolution with everything high its probably being pushed beyond its capabilities.

    I spy an early predecessor to the Blue Man group in Larry's photo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69th_Spiritus_Mortem (US-S SM) View Post

    I spy an early predecessor to the Blue Man group in Larry's photo.
    I see, I can nothing hide!

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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    Quote Originally Posted by LARRY69 View Post
    I think your PC/Video card is to weak. I`ve had the same issue with my former PC (GTX 660) like you, but if I was in the air, after a while it "snaps" in, like Major said. Then if I (or the AI) landed then it was blurry again. Now with the GTX970 and a decent PC I see all details on the ground with higest settings, clouds, lots of Planes and runs like a hot knife trough butter.

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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    Avoid AMD for CloD. There are still issues with texture tiles on the landscape having visible lines. This is an AMD issue only, no problem with Nvidia.

    1060/1070 or 1080 would be perfect but if you can't wait a lot of us use the 970/980 and get a 60-fps constant performance
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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticpuma View Post
    Avoid AMD for CloD. There are still issues with texture tiles on the landscape having visible lines. This is an AMD issue only, no problem with Nvidia.

    1060/1070 or 1080 would be perfect but if you can't wait a lot of us use the 970/980 and get a 60-fps constant performance
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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    I'm just glad he didn't leave out the "k" in the thread title.
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    Re: Any british 4k skins - UHD ?

    Quote Originally Posted by 71st_AH_VinnieJones (XR-B) View Post
    I'm just glad he didn't leave out the "k" in the thread title.
    glad to see your mind is on the job ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 71st_AH_VinnieJones (XR-B) View Post
    I'm just glad he didn't leave out the "k" in the thread title.
    It'd be a helluva good reason NOT to upgrade the graphics card.....
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