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    Thrustmaster TPR



    HEART (HALL sensor).

    http://www.thrustmaster.com/pt_BR/pr...ze-game-flight

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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    Interesting.

    Still have no idea why trhey didnt make a new gimbal for the Warthog instead of letting Virpil do it !

    Those pedals look interesting... will keep my eyes out for the review....

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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    I'm thinking it's gonna be the price of Crosswinds/Baur/Slav without the quality
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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightdare View Post
    I'm thinking it's gonna be the price of Crosswinds/Baur/Slav without the quality
    Exactly. A fail in other words.
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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    Someone hit a set of rudder pedals with the ugly stick and in the process managed to squash the pedals together. What on earth could be the benefit of pedals that close? Am I missing something here?

    Is there an extension bar missing? Mind you if I were living in a small 1bedroom flat with 14 members of my extended family, 2 dogs and a bowl of small fish, I could see the potential benefit of such a design.
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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    So negative …. personally I'm happy to see new stuff coming out and hope its at a price point that will get new people interested in making the investment. A lot of people don't want to muck around with VKB or Virpil (I know I've about had my fill sometimes) , something that is mainstream available and reasonably well made (which they really do look to be) should be well received.

    *Price point will be make or break with these, who in their right mind would pay as much as crosswinds for …. umm not crosswinds

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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    It’s not negative at the price they will be expecting to obtain to save some poor soul from outlaying cash on something with terrible design. People get stuck on a thought process that just because it’s new, it good. Like because its new “they” learned from the mistakes of earlier designs and developed something far more worthy and improved.

    In this instance, I don’t think it’s down to a case of my personal taste, nor being negative for the sake of being negative. That design is flawed and heaven help the ill advised who lay out hard earned cash for it.

    It reminds me of cheap and nasty saitek rudders. Ughhhhhhhh.

    I love the line, “essentially ripped from the fuselage of an aircraft”...."

    A 1/16th scale RC aircraft maybe.
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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    Lol, ok. Price is unknown and there has been 0 reviews or vids of them even being used but ok. If only any of the Saitek products actually had hall effects or ANY metal in the construction other than the combat pedals. Not here to argue just sayin I didn't understand the pre-hate.

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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    This pedal is clearly based on airlines pedals (e.g. Boeing 757NG) - their previous TFRP is based on Cessna 177, as the GA market (FSX, X-PLane...) is bigger than CFS market (IL-2's, DCS...). Anyway some US warbids like P-51, P-47 use the similar arrange for pedals.

    The steel, aluminum parts suggest strength/little play in pivots (like BRD, MFG, Slaw, VKB), and fortunately is used HALL sensor (what Tm call H.E.A.R.T.) in all three axes, the price certainly will be on Warthog range, although an Tm racing pedal with metal structure is not too expensive.

    This TPR pedal can share the same 3 axes USB adapter used in TFRP and by other Tm products.
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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    Quote Originally Posted by TWC_Sp00k View Post
    Someone hit a set of rudder pedals with the ugly stick and in the process managed to squash the pedals together. What on earth could be the benefit of pedals that close? Am I missing something here?

    Is there an extension bar missing? Mind you if I were living in a small 1bedroom flat with 14 members of my extended family, 2 dogs and a bowl of small fish, I could see the potential benefit of such a design.
    I suspect this "squashing", is a visual illusion. I have used Saitek Pro-Flight Combat rudder pedals for the last five years with NO Problems. They are generally acclaimed for their 7.5" (19 cm) wide spacing between pedals (the reason I chose them), and by using the sunglasses in the picture for scale, these TPR's seem to appear to be just as wide as my Saiteks.

    I'm hoping to see ThrustMaster producing a lower cost, high quality product, manufactured closer to home. I have liked dealing with Guillemot Corporation Group, and their subsidiaries in the past. Maybe some competitive pricing is just what the computer accessories market needs!
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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    Quote Originally Posted by TWC_Sp00k View Post
    What on earth could be the benefit of pedals that close?
    The picture is in perspective, beta tester (on CheckSix) suggest (NDA) that TPR is around ~50 cm width.

    Say that for reference an (RL) F-16 cockpit width 20 "3/8 = 51,52cm, and looks that pilots there don't have problems with the... erh... "belly ball".

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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixCNE View Post
    If only any of the Saitek products actually had hall effects
    Don't you mean Hall-sensors?
    If so: The X-65 and -55/-65 did

    or ANY metal in the construction other than the combat pedals.
    The X-65 was all metal, and I have to say, the Combat rudder may have metal pedals, the rest is all plastic, including the stems, which get to bear the biggest load, on which the pedals are attached
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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    X-65F has "force sensor" (load cell) in X, Y axes, but potentiometer in throttle axes.

    X-52's, X-55, X-65 has HALL sensor in X, Y axes, but potentiometer in twist and throttle axes.

    Saitek Combat Pedal (discontinued) has the foot rest in aluminum, all the rest in plastic - share the same base of Saitek PRO Flight Rudder Pedals, with cheap potentiometers.



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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightdare View Post
    Don't you mean Hall-sensors?
    If so: The X-65 and -55/-65 did



    The X-65 was all metal, and I have to say, the Combat rudder may have metal pedals, the rest is all plastic, including the stems, which get to bear the biggest load, on which the pedals are attached
    Hall effect sensor yes, and we were kind of talking about the rudder pedals sorry. The metal on the combat pedals was rather pointless yes and I never saw the reason to spend more than the pro flight pedals when I bought my initial sim gear. Never did have any kind of experience with the x-65 but both the piece of kit itself and the quality of the construction seemed an oddball for Saitek.

    *on a side note now that theres an actual video AND more importantly price point (unless lokos was joking) these look like a horrible choice. Who in their right mind wouldn't just get crosswinds? (other than the weirdo in the vid)
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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    The old tweezers with "detent" center system (CH, Saiteks...).

    print screen

    Impressions

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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    I shall be waiting for someone to do a like for like comparison review against Slaw / Crosswinds

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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    Here's Jabbers thoughts on his visit to the TM kiosk at E3. He talks about the TPR, a new TM headset and the (hopefully) soon to be announced F-18 stick.



    The pedals are pretty "meh" to me. I'd have been interested in them a few years ago when I used the Obutto Ozone cockpit. It looks like they would fix in the small area the Ozone gives you for pedals. Keep in mind the Ozone is primarily made for racing sims and associated hardware....racing pedals are pretty narrow. The only decent pedals I could find that fit in the Ozone were VKB's T-Rudder pedals and they did not have toe brakes. I really liked the T-Rudder pedals, but the lack of toe brakes was a real downer, so for the toe brakes alone I'd probably have bought the TPR pedals. But now that I have ditched the Ozone and have a set of MFGs the TPRs really don't interest me.

    The F-18 stick is a different story. That's going to be an instant buy for me, especially since I'm switching from my VKB Black Mamba to the Virpil stick. Since the Virpil is compatible with and uses the same interface as the TM Cougar and Warthog the F-18 stick should work fine. I'll be able to swap handles depending on plane types e.g. Virpil handle for Russian DCS planes like the Su-27, my Warthog handle for the DCS Warthog module, my Cougar handle for Falcon BMS and the new F-18 stick for the DCS F-15C, Hornet and Harrier modules. The Harrier handle is very similar to the one used in the F-15 and F18, but the trip and castle hats are reversed.....but it's close enough for me.



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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    By adding a "slider" with up, down and push, plus push button in castle and 'shoulder' HAT's, Tm F-18 grip has the same number of buttons than Warthog grip:19 + POV HAT.

    BTW - "F-18'ish" grip is made in the old and good... plastic.

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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    Quote Originally Posted by 1lokos View Post
    BTW - "F-18'ish" grip is made in the old and good... plastic.
    Not a problem for me. Metal feels nice...but paint tends to peel.
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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    Review - by TPR beta tester, on CheckSIx:

    http://www.checksix-fr.com/test-thru...ndular-rudder/

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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    User review - but seems receive pedal for free for this review.



    The guy consider a improvement over MFG Crosswind - he own a 1st generation, MJoy16 based USB controller and analog contact less sensor, Crosswind of 2nd generation upgrade for MFG Simm8Rge USB controller and contact less sensor in digital mode (Melexis similar to Warhog, X-55/56).

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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    He needs to ask 'TIM' why you cant get replacement parts from TM hog hardware anymore.
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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    The best review of TPR until now - written and with screwdriver's.

    https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/...ht-sim-pedals/

    Author pedal references: Slaw "Friedrich" and RX Viper.

    Why TPR use the "low tech" pincer center system?

    - Because is more friendly for "Average Joe Simmer's" set their preferences.

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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    You know, for that money they could at least have put a powered USB hub in the 'bollard'

    As it is, I still consider the price insane, regardless how hard it is to get a set of Baurs or Slavs
    added to that pricetag that TM presents this as "moddable" while it should be an "off the shelf solution" kinda makes me think they either didn't release a finished product
    and shoved the responsibility of the profit they are making on the DIY FS community
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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    My Slaws wil live with me until I lose the ability to fly

    (and if you ask the Rag Tags how long that willl be they will most likely retort, some time after he finds it)

    at that price... ?

    I'm very happy with my choice.

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    Re: Thrustmaster TPR

    I think I stick to low production long wait rudders. These are probably very good, but my crosswinds are oldest models, never failed me yet. And that say something

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    I changed from Windows 7 to Windows 10 last christmas and my Saitek rudder pedals stopped working and nothing I could to to make them work. So I decided to buy these rudder pedals and I'm astonished with them. At first it was hard to get accustomed to them, but two weeks later I wouldn't change them. I only left one spring (it comes with two springs to adjust the... force? (sorry for my English). The downside: yes, they are expensive.

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