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    Actors who experienced the real thing...

    Hi Fellas,

    As a 60's child and living through the era of some of the greatest war movies I was always surprised when I found out later that some of the actors I loved had really experienced combat. The knowledge that actors had faced the real dangers of war was fascinating to me and added to the credibility of some of the characters they played as actors.

    Below is a list I have edited to include a couple of actors who did serve and fight in reality but not necessarily made war films during their acting career.

    There will be others. Please include them if you know of any.

    Thanks, Lew...


    Clarke Gable (USA)- Served in the US air-force during WW2. He worked primarily in public relations and morale-boosting but also trained as a gunner and he flew five missions on B-17s over Germany. War movies he appeared in included Command Decision

    Jimmy Stewart (USA)- Trained as a bomber pilot for the USAAF in WW2, he served in the 8th Air-Force and flew 25 bombing missions over enemy territory as the pilot of a B-24. When he was interviewed for the 1970s documentary TV series 'The World at War', he recalled as the biggest fear- "the (German) fighter was the boogey-man....the fighter had eyes!" War movies he appeared in- Strategic Air-Command .

    Walter Matthau (USA) - During World War II, Matthau served in the U.S. Army Air Forces with the Eighth Air Force in Britain as a Consolidated B-24 Liberator radioman-gunner, in the same 453rd Bombardment Group as James Stewart. He was based at RAF Old Buckenham, Norfolk during this time. He reached the rank of staff sergeant and became interested in acting.

    Richard Todd (UK)- Was a Paratrooper in the British 6th Airborne division in WW2 and he saw action on D-Day in Normandy, 1944. He fought at the famous action at Pegasus Bridge and later acted in a scene in a film that re-created this battle. War movies he appeared in included- The Dam Busters, The Longest Day, D-Day: the 6th June, Operation Cross-Bow.

    Donald Pleasance (UK) Flew as a Navigator in Lancaster bombers in British RAF Bomber-Command during the night-air offensive against Germany in WW2. His plane was shot down in 1944 and he was captured and placed in a POW camp where he was interrogated & tortured by the Gestapo. After the war, he seldom spoke about his wartime experiences. War movies he appeared in - The Great Escape, The Great Escape II (TV)

    Charles Bronson (USA) Joined the United States air-force during WW2 and served in the war in Pacific against the Japanese. He flew 25 combat missions as a tail gunner in a B-29 in 1944/45, flying long-range bombing missions over Japan and received a Purple Heart for being wounded by shrapnel from anti-aircraft fire. War movies he appeared in include:- The Dirty Dozen, The Battle of the Bulge

    Lee Marvin (USA) Joined the US Marine Corps at the outbreak of WW2. He fought in the Pacific against the Japanese and was wounded in the buttocks by shrapnel during the battle of Saipan in 1944. War movies he appeared in included:- The Dirty Dozen, The Big Red One, Hell in the Pacific.

    Hardy Kruger (Germany). Was a member of the Hitler Youth until he was old enough to join the German army during the last stages of WW2. He fought against the Allies in Europe in 1945 as an infantryman in the Waffen-SS. War movies he appeared in included:- The One that got away, A Bridge Too Far, The Wild Geese and the Battle of the river Neretva.

    Kirk Douglas attended the midshipman school at Notre Dame University, and graduated as a naval ensign. He was assigned as a communications officer to Anti-Submarine Unit 1139 in the Pacific, and spent most of 1942 and 43 on small patrol craft. He was injured in an encounter with a Japanese sub when a depth charge went off almost immediately after being discharged. Suffering internal injuries, he later got complications from amoebic dysentery. He spent five months at Balboa Hospital at San Diego Naval Station, and was given a medical discharge in 1944.

    Harry Andrews (UK) - Served in the Royal Artillery during WW2. Famous for portraying the stiff-upper lipped British officer in many war films. War movies included:- Battle of Britain, Charge of the Light Brigade, Too late the Hero, A Hill in Korea, The Hill.

    Denholm Elliot (UK) - Served in the RAF as a Gunner/Navigator in Bomber Command (I wasn't able to find out what type of aircraft). Shot down over Denmark in 1942, spent the remainder of the war in a POW camp where he helped organise theatricial entertainment for the other prisoners. War movies included:- A Bridge Too Far, Too Late the Hero, The Cruel Sea.

    Gert Frobe
    (Germany)- film actor best-remembered for playing the villian Goldfinger in the James Bond film of the same name. He also played German officers in the war films 'The Longest Day' and 'Is Paris Burning?' and played the pompous Prussian officer in 'Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines'. In WW2, Frobe was a member of the Nazi Party but he led a double-life by secretly hiding Jewish families from the Gestapo. After the war, he had no proof of his deeds and the movie 'Goldfinger' was banned in Israel until a Jewish family that he had saved publicly thanked him.

    Ernst Schroder (Germany)- film and stage actor who played a German General (Von Salmuth) in 'The Longest Day'. In WW2, he served in the Whermacht on the Italian Front in 1944 and was wounded and taken prisoner by Allied troops. He took his own life in 1994.

    Christopher Lee (UK) - The actor who has achieved recent fame for playing villians in the Lord of the Rings trilogy and the two most recent Star Wars films was a member of the Royal air-force Intelligence service in WW2 and saw action with the Special Forces in Finland during the Finnish-Soviet war in 1940.

    Toshiro Mifune (Japan). Served in the Imperial Japanese Air-Force during WW2 as a member of an aerial reconnaissance and photography unit. War movies he appeared in included:- Midway, 1941, Hell in the Pacific.

    Woody Strode (USA)- film actor who played the reluctant Private Franklin in the 1959 Korean War film 'Pork Chop Hill' but is probably best-remembered for playing the Gladiator Draba who spares Kirk Douglas' life and sacrifices his own after a fight in the arena in the 1960 Ancient-Roman epic 'Spartacus'. He served in the US Army during WW2 as a soldier in a segregated African-American unit.

    Kenneth Moore (UK) received a commission as a lieutenant in the Royal Navy, and saw active service aboard the cruiser HMS Aurora and the aircraft carrier HMS Victorious.

    Rod Steiger (USA). Served in the United States Navy in the Pacific during WW2 on board a Destroyer. His first introduction to war was when he was ordered to machine-gun and sink an un-armed Japanese civilian fishing boat whilst his ship was escorting the carrier USS Hornet en route to launching the Doolittle Raid on Tokyo in 1942. War movies he appeared in included:- Lion of the Desert, Waterloo, The Longest Day.

    Henry Fonda (USA). Also served in the United States Navy in WW2 and, like Steiger, also fought in the Pacific on board a Destroyer. However he gained a higher rank (Quarter-Master) and was already an established actor when he enlisted in the Navy in 1943. He earned a Bronze Star for bravery. War movies included:- The Longest Day, Midway, Battle of the Bulge

    Ernst Borgnine (USA). Served in the US Navy in WW2, rising to the rank of Gunner's 1st Mate. War movies included:- The Dirty Dozen, From Here to Eternity, All Quiet on the Western Front (1979 remake)

    Dirk Bogarde (UK). Served in WW2 as an officer in a British Photo-Intelligence Unit. Took part in the liberation of the Belsen death camp in 1945 and he once had to kill a wounded allied officer to put him out of his misery. War movies included:- Ill-met by moonlight, A Bridge Too Far.

    Harold.H.Corbett (UK)- TV and Stage actor, best-known for playing the younger half of the scrap-dealing father and son team of the long-running sitcom 'Steptoe and Son' (1962-1974). In WW2, he served in the British Royal Marines and ended the war as a qualified radiographer.

    Eddie Albert (USA). Served in the US Navy in the Pacific in WW2. During the battle of Tarawa in 1943, he drove a Landing Craft and was credited with rescuing 70 wounded soldiers whilst under Japanese fire. War movies included Attack!, The Longest Day

    Alec Guiness (UK). Served in the Royal Navy during WW2 and was a crew-member on board a Landing Craft for the allied invasion of Sicily and also participated in ferrying supplies to Yugoslav partisans. War movies included:- Bridge on the River Kwai.

    David Niven (UK). Fought in WW2 with the British army in a rifle regiment and later in the Commandoes. He was present at the evacuation at Dunkirk in 1940 and later in the war took part in missions behind enemy lines. War movies included:- The Way ahead, Spitfire, The Guns of Navarone

    Michael Caine
    (UK). Fought as a rifle-man in a British Army Regiment during the war in Korea 1950-53. War movies included:- Zulu, A Hill in Korea, The Last Valley, Play Dirty, Battle of Britain, A Bridge Too Far.

    James Garner (USA) Fought in Korea for 14 months, as a rifleman in the 5th Regimental Combat Team during the Korean War. He was wounded twice, first in the face and hand by shrapnel fire from a mortar round, and the second time in the buttocks from friendly fire from U.S. fighter jets as he dove headfirst into a foxhole. Garner received the Purple Heart in Korea for the first wound.

    Audie Murphy (USA). Fought with the US Army in Sicily, Italy and France, surviving several wounds to become the highest-decorated US soldier in WW2. Played himself in the movie based on his wartime experiences To Hell and Back. Privately, he said he disliked the film, saying it 'missed by a mile'.

    Paul Newman (USA). Joined the US Naval air-force and served in a torpedo Squadron as a gunner/radio-operator on Grumman Avengers. In May 1945, his crew was about to be sent to reinforce the Torpedo Squadron on board the carrier USS Bunker Hill during the battle for Okinawa. At the last moment, his crew was held back as his pilot developed an ear infection. Shortly afterwards, Bunker Hill was hit by a Japanese Kamikaze and hundreds of men were killed, including most of the fliers of the ship's Avenger squadron. Newman's pilot falling ill was a quirk of fate that almost certainly saved his life.

    Fred Gwynne (USA)- actor best-known for his role as Herman Munster in the 1960s TV sitcom 'The Munsters'. In WW2 he served in the US Navy and was able to study art & dramatics with the help of the post-war G.I Bill.


    Jack Palance did not get to experience actual combat but he trained as a bomber pilot in WW2. During a training flight over California, his B-24 accidently crashed and Palance received severe facial burns, creating his gaunt, lined features that he was famous for as an actor.

    Don Adams (USA) (TV's Get Smart) - Fought in WW2 as a rifleman in the US Marines, taking part in the bloody battles on Guadalcanal in 1942-43. After one action, he was the only survivor of his platoon.

    Jack Warden (USA) - Served in the US Navy and then the Merchant Marine 1938-42 but then joined the US Army Airborne, serving in the 501st Regiment of the 101st Division. Holding the rank of Staff Sargeant, Warden broke his leg landing on a fence during a night practice jump in England just prior to D-Day so he was unable to participate in the Normandy campaign. However he recovered in time to rejoin his unit and he saw action in the Ardennes in December 1944. Ironically, in the 1959 movie 'That Kind of Woman', he played a paratrooper from his rival unit, the 82nd Airborne. War movies he appeared in included:- From here to Eternity, The Thin Red Line (original 1964 version) and Run Silent, Run Deep.

    Lee Van-Cleef (USA). Van-Cleef, who starred in many famous Westerns and also appeared as a bullying Sargeant who picks on Montgomery Cliff in the 1958 film 'The Young Lions' served in the US Navy during WW2. War movies included:- The Young Lions.

    Randolph Scott (USA). The popular chiselled-jawed actor who starred in a great many Westerns from the 1930s through to the 1960s, Scott served in WW1 at the age of 19 in the US Army. He saw action as an Artillery Observer on the Western front in 1918 with the 2nd Trench Mortar Battalion, 19th Field Artillery. In WW2, he attempted to enlist again but was turned down due to a previous injury. He did, however, perform in a touring comedy act to entertain troops. War movies he appeared in included:- To the Shores of Tripoli, Bombardier, China Sky, Corvette K-225.

    Glenn Ford (USA). - Served in the US Marine-Corps Reserve during WW2, working in communications and public-relations. He also served in the US Naval Reserve periodically until the 1970s which included a month-long visit to Vietnam in 1967 as a location-scout for military-training films. War movies included:- Torpedo Run, Advance to the Rear, Destroyer, Midway.

    Jack Watson (UK). -Served in the British Royal Navy in WW2 as a PT Instructor. War Movies included:- Tobruk, The McKenzie Break, The Devils Brigade, The Wild Geese.

    Percy Herbert (UK). -Served in the British Army during WW2, taking part in the defence of Singapore and was captured by the Japanese in February 1942, spending the remainder of the war in a POW camp. A prolific character actor, he appeared in many British war films, including: A Hill in Korea, Tobruk, The Sea of Sand, Bridge on the River Kwai, The Wild Geese, The Guns of Navarone, Tunes of Glory, Too Late the Hero, Cockleshell Heroes and Guns at Batsai.


    James Doohan ('Scotty' in Star Trek) - served in the Canadian artillery during WW2 and fought in Normandy in 1944.

    At least three cast members of BBC TV's Dads Army all experienced war for real. Clive Dunn (Corporal Jones) was captured in North Africa in WW2 and spent 4 years in a POW camp. John Laurie (Private Frazer) fought in the First World war as did Arnold Ridley (Private Godfrey), the latter taking part in the terrible Battle of the Somme in 1916. Ridley was badly wounded in both legs and his left arm and also sustained a severe head injury when a German soldier struck him with a rifle butt. He volunteered again to later fight in WW2 but suffered shell-shock during the retreat through France in 1940 and was discharged. It was therefore very ironic that Ridley played the most gentle and timid member of Captain Mainwaring's Home-Guard platoon!

    Jon Pertwee (UK) ( BBC TV's Dr Who in the 1970s)- served in the British Royal Navy in WW2 on board the Battleship HMS Hood. Was lucky enough to be transferred from the ship shortly before it was sunk in 1941.

    Charles Durning (USA) had an extraordinary experience in WW2. As a soldier in the famous 1st US army division, he survived the bloody landing on Omaha beach on D-Day. Six months later, he was captured by the Germans during the battle of the Bulge and he was one of only three men to survive the infamous Malmedy massacre where over 100 captured Americans were machine-gunned by Waffen-SS.

    Raymond Burr (USA) (TV's Ironside and Perry Mason) fought in WW2 in the Marine Corps and was wounded at the battle of Okinawa in 1945.

    All information copied from Pete Hills post on the 'Aerodrome' website.

    http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=35649

    If you know of any more, please let us know.

    ...Lew...
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    Re: Actors who experienced the real thing...

    Great info Lew.

    Thanks mate.p:thumbsup

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    Re: Actors who experienced the real thing...

    Very interesting,thank you!
    Maybe an addition for the german side could be Klaus Kinski,who appeared in some 70ies WW2 movies and who was a Paratrooper at the end ofwar.He was captured by british forces 1944 in the Netherlands.I added a picture because I don't know how famous he actually is outside of Germany,but probably you have once seen this face.
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    I know all about Klaus Kinski...First time I saw him was the twitchy hunchback in One of the Dollars films...and then Nosferatu
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    Klaus Kinski also had a brief cameo appearance in Doctor Zhivago. His sister Natasha has appeared in a number of films, including Tess of the D'Urbavilles and Wings of Desire.
    I read somewhere that Audey Murphy suffered from terrible PTSD and often was a wreck during the shooting of the Civil War film "The Red Badge of Courage" because shooting the battle scenes in that film caused flashbacks.

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    Notice John Wayne and Ronald Reagan are missing.

    Of the actors who took part, one correction... Jimmie Stewart also flew B-17's.

    Stewart was one of the biggest stars in Hollywood at the time... could have applied for any number of deferrals... but he accepted his draft notice.

    Stewart then had a second chance to back out of the war... he was examined by a medical board and was rejected for failing to meet height and weight requirements. But he refused to accept the finding, went into a special training program with the athletic trainers at Metro Goldwyn Mayer to get up to standards, and tried again at the Army Airforce medical board... and was accepted.

    Then, because of his celebrity status, he was given less dangerous assignments, and could have spent the war flying in training situations in the US... but again, he refused to accept this, and asked for a transfer to a combat squadron. He was then assigned to a combat group.

    Stewart flew as a bomber pilot at the time when the chances of surviving a 25 mission tour were negative. He flew during late '43 and early '44 when the Luftwaffe was still a big force, he saw action during 'Big Week'. He flew missions over Berlin. He volunteered for additional missions, flying for pathfinder squadrons in the most dangerous positions in the Bomber stream.

    He was eventually promoted to command a Bomb Wing... he was one of the few volunteers to rise from Private to Colonel in the course of the war. He was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross, the Air Medal with three clusters, and the French Croix De Guerre.

    Stewart never made a big deal about his service or tried to gain any advantage or PR from it.

    About his PTSD:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rful-Life.html

    Some stories on Stewart's service:

    http://www.historynet.com/mr-stewart-goes-to-war.htm

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    Australian actor Bud Tingwell flew photo recon missions in spitfires and mosquitos in north Africa and Sicily . Was in the 1953 movie Desert Rats and 1958 film Dunkirk. Also did some voice work in the original Thunderbirds and Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons, the first series of catweazle and a heck of a lot other movies. Its weird to think that if they had just a bit of bad luck in those times that no one would have known who they were. Also in a Dracula film in 1966 with Christopher Lee who is on your list.
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    Thanks for compiling this list Lew, very interesting.

    I know that this man doesn't strictly meet your criterea, as he wasn't an actor. However, I think that the well known BBC television presenter Raymond Baxter is worth a mention as he was a spitfire pilot during WW2, flying with 93 sqn over Sicily in 1943, where he was mentioned in dispaches

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    The Daily Mail article on Stewart interesting, but contains a couple of errors. It repeatedly, and incorrectly, describes him as a fighter pilot. He flew B 24s, which as we all know, were bombers. A less glaring error is the account of him staying with his friend and fellow actor Peter Fonda after the war. In fact it was Peter's dad, Henry Fonda.
    Both articles worth reading, though the second one is much better written.
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    Quote Originally Posted by =FI=Murph View Post
    The Daily Mail article on Stewart interesting, but contains a couple of errors. It repeatedly, and incorrectly, describes him as a fighter pilot. He flew B 24s, which as we all know, were bombers. A less glaring error is the account of him staying with his friend and fellow actor Peter Fonda after the war. In fact it was Peter's dad, Henry Fonda.
    Both articles worth reading, though the second one is much better written.
    Yeah, typical Daily Mail...

    But enough of it is factual to provide some illumination... the book the article references is the best option for more detail.

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    I just watched the series "Five Came Back" on Netflix, which is about the well known Hollywood directors John Ford, William Wyler, John Huston, Frank Capra, and George Stevens, who served overseas ad were responsible for much of the newsreels and documentaries filmed for the US during WWII. I found it very interesting, and so I am finding this thread ties in quite nicely with that.

    I must admit to never having thought much about the men who put the films together for the war department during the war (other than the poor buggers who had to film it - if it were me filming, the camera would be shaking so violently that any shots would be unusable), and i really enjoyed the series.

    Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_C...ck_(TV_series)


    This thread ties in with that series quite nicely, so i will pass on a thank you for writing this up Lew.
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    No Rambo?

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    Only one that I didn't know and that came as a surprise was Don Adams.

    I can imagine him on the shoe phone calling in the mortar barrage.
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    Remember this guy? He dropped off for a while and joined the military.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaggy_(musician)

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    The kid from Forrest Gump left acting to go serve also. Michael Connor Humphrey's


    http://metro.co.uk/2016/02/17/the-ki...-hero-5701890/
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAF74_Buzzsaw View Post
    Notice John Wayne and Ronald Reagan are missing.[/img]
    Yeah...We knew about the John Wayne thing...My dad is a movie buff and he would mention this every time when we were watching his films throughout the 70s...I never watched one without feeling he was a bit of a charlatan...I still can't...

    As for Jimmy Stewart...What can I say...The article below says it all...If you don't know about his war service then read it...Only short article...but you get him...He gets my full respect...Again my dad knew all this stuff and my brother and I were fully aware of it as kids...

    http://www.historynet.com/mr-stewart-goes-to-war.htm

    Jimmy Stewarts old airstrip 'Tibenham' is still there by the the way...Its a gliding club now that host large scale models too...



    He revisited it in 1975...

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    Re: Actors who experienced the real thing...

    No need to apologize for John Wayne. For anyone interested, see:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywo...and-the-draft/

    As for Ronald Reagen, see:

    http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/s...-world-war-ii/

    There were valid reasons for their service choices, and they served where they could.
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    The kid from Forrest Gump left acting to go serve also. Michael Connor Humphrey's


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    It's amazing how much he still looks like his character in the film!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baffin View Post
    No need to apologize for John Wayne. For anyone interested, see:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywo...and-the-draft/

    As for Ronald Reagen, see:

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    There were valid reasons for their service choices, and they served where they could.
    I didn't know any of this. But that Wayne piece is a long way from measured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Highseas View Post
    I didn't know any of this. But that Wayne piece is a long way from measured.
    Could not agree more HS.

    So i measured it. 153 lines!

    You can now consider it measured
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    Quote Originally Posted by farley View Post
    153 lines!

    You can now consider it measured
    Phew!... glad that is resolved!

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    Charles Bronson also had an important role in The Great Escape playing Danny 'Tunnel King'. My Dad was impressed enough to name me after his character (born after about 1 year after the movie was 1st released).

    coincidentally, I enlisted (USMC) as soon as I was old enough.

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    Late to the list but shouldn't be missed is another hero who never talked much about his war record, Sterling Hayden. "The Asphalt Jungle", "Dr. Strangelove", "Johnny Guitar". A Boothbay Harbor, State Of Maine boy.
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    Charlton Heston (Ben-Hur, 10 Commandments, El-Cid) was another veteran
    He was a radioman/Gunner on a B-25 Mitchell of the 77th Bombardment Squadron.
    According to his son he REFUSED to talk about his wartime experience

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