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    Nvidia Control Panel Settings...


    Nvidia Control Panel Settings / Ingame Video Settings


    These settings are Spiritis_Mortem settings for the Nvidia Control panel and Video option ingame.

    They can be seen as a go to before you make your own experimentation with your own specific rig...Any successful changes you make will be appreciated via posts on this thread and please make sure to include your system spec.


    1) Nvidia Control Panel Settings


    These settings are for the 'Global' section in your Nvidia Control panel. You can make these settings specifically for your game by selecting the 'Program Settings' option and choosing the specific game and then making the changes the same as below.






    2) Ingame 'Video' Settings




    We appreciate any feedback for information you find out from your own experimentation with this game.

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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    Thanks for posting these Lew.
    Team Fusion has certainly done a great job with 4.5.

    The settings I use are almost identical, with two exceptions.
    Negative LOD Bias - I have this set to "Clamp". This was recommended for use with Anisotropic Filtering enabled. This has always been a bit of a mystery feature to me, if anyone can explain why it should be set to "Allow", please correct me.
    The second is the AA settings.
    Could someone from TF maybe clarify the situation with in game AA.
    I read in another thread that trying to enable any standard AA through the Nvidia Control Panel is not working. FXAA is working and possibly MFAA. These seem to be the only two options via the NVCP.
    Is it still a case of the in game AA basically operating as an on/off feature, select any setting to enable it, higher settings making no difference?
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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    I had been using these too until last night

    I was getting some pretty bad lag on my Track IR (which didnt affect FPS on the counter but was noticable blurry when moving my head)

    last night i reintsalled everything again anbd forgot to update my Nvidia settings beyond setting fast sync and "prefer maximum preformance" globally...

    Track IR lag gone. (YEY !!) FPS still great. (Double YEY!!)

    Might just be my system... but I have actually found that running the stock nvidia settings (with fast sync and prefer max performance) to be very good indeed.

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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    I notice the screen shots show global settings. Shouldn't they be specific settings for Launcher64.exe?
    Seas, nice observation. I may go back and try defaults, plus high performance and fast sync. I have been getting pretty decent fps though.

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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    I assume the in game screenshots of the options are from the old version of CLoD right?

    Because those options are different for me in the Blitz Edition. Sorry for my confusion but just wanted to make sure I don't have something wrong with my install.

    Also I have been playing around with my settings since Blitz released and I can tell you that for me Anisotropic Filtering was causing alot of the shimmering I was seeing. I disabled it and that was solved at least.
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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    Quote Originally Posted by Screamadelica View Post
    Thanks for posting these Lew.
    Team Fusion has certainly done a great job with 4.5.

    The settings I use are almost identical, with two exceptions.
    Negative LOD Bias - I have this set to "Clamp". This was recommended for use with Anisotropic Filtering enabled. This has always been a bit of a mystery feature to me, if anyone can explain why it should be set to "Allow", please correct me.
    The second is the AA settings.
    Could someone from TF maybe clarify the situation with in game AA.
    I read in another thread that trying to enable any standard AA through the Nvidia Control Panel is not working. FXAA is working and possibly MFAA. These seem to be the only two options via the NVCP.
    Is it still a case of the in game AA basically operating as an on/off feature, select any setting to enable it, higher settings making no difference?
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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    The nice thing now about using Steam to Verify the Integrity of Your Folder is that it verifies that it is truly TFS version 4.5. No longer does it put you back to Clod vanilla (ie pre-Team Fusion version), then make you have to update from there — which took a lot of time.

    It’s wise to first copy and save all your .ini files first in your 1C Softclub IL2-Sturmovik folder first (paste ‘em into a different, easy-to-find location). After your Clod game has been “verified”, you can then paste these saved .ini files back in their original location. This’ll save you from having to redo all your video settings, joystick mappings, ammo belt loads, etc etc.


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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    There is no AA in cliffs!

    I have been saying this for many years but these suggestions keep coming back. There is only FXAA, which you can enable in game or in NV CP but there's no point in doing both it will just double the load for no benefit.

    I would caution against changing default settings in NVCP, just use the Launcher64 program settings.

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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    Thanks for posting, Lew.

    It's good that someone is going over this stuff even if a lot of us won't use it. I'm sure many just leave things set to default in NVCP, without ever getting any benefit from using it. I've never touched my NVCP settings other than for dual display and everything seems to be working fine so I think 'Seas to be making a valid point about defaults. However, it is useful to know this stuff and keep one's options open.


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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Septic View Post
    There is no AA in cliffs!

    I have been saying this for many years but these suggestions keep coming back. There is only FXAA, which you can enable in game or in NV CP but there's no point in doing both it will just double the load for no benefit.

    I would caution against changing default settings in NVCP, just use the Launcher64 program settings.

    Septic.
    Thanks for this Septic. Would you recommend that anything that starts with AA in the NVCP be turned off?
    Or is it just that it won't help?
    If having it on just adds more stress to the system, then I will turn it off.

    thanks for your help with this!
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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    Quote Originally Posted by farley View Post
    Thanks for this Septic. Would you recommend that anything that starts with AA in the NVCP be turned off?
    Or is it just that it won't help?
    If having it on just adds more stress to the system, then I will turn it off.

    thanks for your help with this!
    It's so long ago that I properly tested all this I can't be certain turning all this on adds any load or not but it certainly doesn't add any AA so I'd turn it all off old chap. You can use FXAA via NVCP or in game. To turn on FXAA in game any setting other than 0 turns FXAA on.

    People report different results on using Anisotropic filtering. Again, from my alcohol degraded memory based on pre 4.5, it is likely to improve the look of models and in cockpit but may make the landscape shimmer.

    Other than DSR, perhaps power management and your choice of Vsync I don't see any value or improvement in changing from default.


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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    Hello,

    I have Lenovo Z500
    - i7-3632QM CPU @ 2.20GHz
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    - nVidia 645M

    I set resolution to 1366x768, everything to low and I see like no difference in FPS between medium / high settings - it looks like 1-2 FPS currently.

    Is there any recommendation for me, beyond new hardware?

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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Septic View Post
    There is no AA in cliffs!

    I have been saying this for many years but these suggestions keep coming back. There is only FXAA, which you can enable in game or in NV CP but there's no point in doing both it will just double the load for no benefit.

    Septic.
    Here you go mate

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    Lew - honestly mate there are so many things in the NCP settings posted that either don't have any effect or may even have a negative effect its not helping anyone. I know they have been popular in testing but they are going to hinder as many players as they help especially in busy environments. Moreover they are going to lead players up garden paths they don't need to go. Wasting time and further adding to confusion as yet another set of "recommended settings" hits the forums.

    I know me banging on about it is starting to bug the crap out of people here and in TFS but wrong is wrong. And trusted personalities on here advising (in good faith) people to make non effective or even counter productive changes to their settings even in the face of all evidence presented to the contrary is wrong also. The less tpeople need to worry about messing with stuff the more they can concentrate on the things that do make an impact.

    Anyhow - instead of starting some weird geek flame war - why don't we use this as an opportunity to bottom exactly what works and what doesn't.

    Then we can present it not as "hey try this - don't know what the hell I did but it worked for me" but as a concise guide to what does what, how it impacts the game and how adjusting parameters affect it. That way players can make an informed decision about settings based on their specs and expectations of the game.

    Seems to me Baffin, Septic, Thee and me are the chief protagonists but obviously anyone else is free to join if they have something positive to add (and can perhaps explain why)

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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    Well I'd add my two cents worth, but in terms of my opinions here, I'm just

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    because I have nothing of value to add..... So I'll just wait for the consensus and follow that

    So bloody hell, hurry up and consense already.....
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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking

    "It'll need a beast of a rig to run those settings at that resolution !"

    Good point Boo. The game needs to run well on most systems.

    The boys with monster rigs can set pretty much what they want.

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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    So - for the hell of it. Here is what ive research and tested about the NCP settings. My opinions but all backed up with in game tests. Debate with evidence welcomed

    Blue - works
    Orange - works but isn't so important
    Red - leave it alone

    Ambient Occlusion - not supported in game.

    Ansiotropic Filtering - Works - can help to remove shimmers and improve overall quality but can also make shimmers worse (go figure). Lightish GPU load but can affect some systems adversely. Use if you can and see if the changes it makes suit. Setting is also affected by "Texture Filering - Ansiotropic Sample optismisation" (See below) - WORTH SOME TIME INVESTED

    Anti aliasing - FXAA - works but can reduce spotting. Is similar to in game AA (which is probably MSAA), - use one or the other. In game AA is more pronounced. WORTH EXPERIMENTING WITH

    Anti Aliasing Gamma Correction - I really don't know! No impact on performance. Is supposed to affect MSAA (some say FXAA too)- TRY ESPECIALLY IF USING IN GAME AA BUT DONT BREAK YOUR HEART OVER IT - may (just may) blur out some fuzzie but the overall effect isn't worth more than a minute of your time.

    Anti aliasing Mode - Does not affect Clod. Leave

    Anti Aliasing Setting - Does not affect Clod - Leave

    Anti-aliasing transparency - Super sampling - Works. Settings over X4 may adversely affect image. Overall effect in Clod is small. May reduce distance shimmer but Downsampling or DSR is more effective if your system can cope. - WORTH EXPERIMENTING BUT NOT OBSESSING OVER

    CUDA GPUs - Irrelevant to Clod - leave


    Maximum Pre-rendered frames - Works - Application setting is unknown - lower settings (1 -2) may improve input lag but increase the risk of stutter, higher settings may smooth out the frame rate to reduce stutter but introduce latency - most likely felt in head tracking movements - 4 is about the max before you enter pukeville - the effect can be offset by reducing the "smoothness" setting in some headtraking software. WORTH A GOOD EXPERIMENT.

    Multi Frame Sampled AA (MFAA) - Clod is not supported - Leave

    Open GL rendering GPU - Clod is D3D - Leave

    Power Management Mode - Prefer Max Performance - nothing else.

    Shader cache - Set to On

    Texture Filtering - Ansiotropic Sample Optimisation - Works - When used with Ansiotropic filtering this can reduce the load on the GPU but can also reintroduce shimmer - EXPERIMENT IF USING ANSIOTROPIC FILTERING ONCE - BEST LEFT OFF IF YOU CAN BUT MAY GAIN YOU AN EXTRA NOTCH IF YOU CANT

    Negative LOD Bias - NO longer functioning - leave

    Texture Filtering - Works - Setting to High seems to be the best compromise for Clod - if you can run it higher do so - lower setting may not gain you much on newer GPUs (700 plus)

    Ti-linear Optimisation- works. This is automatically turned off if you set Texture Filtering to High Quality. On lower setting you have the option to switch it on or off.. Basically reduces some texture quality WORTH ONE TIME TEST IF YOU ARE REALLY ON THE EDGE BUT SHOULD HAVE LITTLE OR NO IMPACT ON NEWER GPUS

    Threaded Optimisation - Leave on Auto

    Triple Buffering - Nvidia Driver supports open GL only - not supported by Nvidia in D3D - Leave

    Vsync - see post #16 here - https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.c...ad.php?t=27309
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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    Quote Originally Posted by BOO View Post
    why don't we use this as an opportunity to bottom exactly what works and what doesn't.

    Then we can present it not as "hey try this - don't know what the hell I did but it worked for me" but as a concise guide to what does what, how it impacts the game and how adjusting parameters affect it. That way players can make an informed decision about settings based on their specs and expectations of the game.
    Great suggestion BOO.
    This is what I have been trying to sort out, as there seems to be so much conflicting advice.
    An official settings guide would be very helpful and make things a lot easier.
    I'll give your settings a try. Thanks for these tips.
    Cheers, Scream.

    Thanks for the info Baffin, much appreciated.
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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    The Bono in me would like to produce something that would take a new player from an unset virgin game through to a full set up.

    I'm very apprehensive about saying "put this exact combination in" because everybody has different rigs and different tastes and tolerances. For instance a single judder will have me quitting the game whilst others are happy to fly with a few barely noticeable jitters now and then because 95% or their flight is glorious.

    Something that covers not only the NCP settings but also the ingame settings (what they do and to what), and also more advanced tweaks using Inspector and Reshade as well as using the games SP missions to help set up is kinda what I had in mind.

    The (admittedly small) part of me without the ego tho just worries ill get sommat wrong, so whilst I'm happy to do the reading and testing , if that is something people think would be useful, it would be nice to have whatever I posted here checked over by anyone with an interest (even if its just one aspect of the post - testing and comparing is really, REALLY boring I know)

    Then maybe gather it all together in a PDF and give it to Snapper to decide what to do with it.
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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    The "Horse's mouth" description of features can be found in the Nvidia Control panel under the "Manage 3D Settings" menu. There are a few pitfalls in this menu, however:

    Leave the "Global Settings" page alone unless you know that you want to universally apply a modification to the driver.

    Select the "Program Settings" page.

    Under "1. Select a program to customize:" page, DO NOT SIMPLY ACCEPT THE FIRST "IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover (... " THAT YOU SEE. (There are TWO of them!). Click on the little "˅" to open the programs list and select "IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover (launcher64.exe)". It's easy to carelessly select the executable file for the old version of CLoD. Be sure you are working with the 64 bit version! (launcher64.exe)

    Next, expand the window so that you can read the "Description:" and "Typical usage scenarios:" annotations at the bottom. These are controlled by the position of the mouse cursor, not the selected or highlighted setting. Avoid selecting a setting and reading the wrong notation because of careless mousing.

    The description and typical usage scenarios will provide you with very general explanations of all these settings but is by no means exhaustive or absolutely current. A good example is "Texture filtering - Negative LOD bias". The typical usage scenario explains the "Clamp" setting as if it was a current feature. A careful perusal of the "388.59-win10-win8-win7-desktop-release-notes.pdf" file that we all religiously download and memorize with each new driver, has relegated the "Clamp" setting to the NVIDIA scrap heap for the last couple of years. Beware!

    A fun and effective way to TEST Anisotropic filtering on your system is to somehow position your airplane close to a brick building. Brickwork has lots of detail so as you change AF settings, you can judge the impact on your virtual world. The fun part comes in getting close to a brick building without becoming part of it! I like to land north of the railway yard that's just south of the Thames river near Westminster. There's lots of buildings off to the north. Good luck!

    A Note on Driver Upgrades: The "IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover (launcher64.exe)" program does not appear in the programs list until I have run the program a few times. A universal loader, "launcher.exe", has shown up right after upgrade, but modifying it does no good because after "IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover (launcher64.exe)" finally shows up, you have to put all the changes in again. Exporting user profiles just hasn't worked for me.

    Finally, the "Nvidia Profile Inspector", part of the "Nvidia Inspector" freeware download, provides access to more Driver mods than does the Nvidia Control Panel, but does not include these descriptive notes. Changes made using this utility will show up in the NCP.

    Here endeth the lesson...
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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    Thank you for this Baffin! Have you found any settings via the Nvidia Profile Inspector that are worth tweaking for CLOD?

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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    Quote Originally Posted by Creep View Post
    Thank you for this Baffin! Have you found any settings via the Nvidia Profile Inspector that are worth tweaking for CLOD?
    Certainly! I recommend you try whatever you feel like. There is an option in NCP to simply revert back to the basic driver if you feel you've messed things up. I do not recommend using someone else's "Best" settings. It's mindless and may even make things worse on "your" computer. Make a hobby of it... become your own "expert"!
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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    Thanks for your input Baffin.
    Lots of good information in this thread.
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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    Quote Originally Posted by BOO View Post
    So - for the hell of it. Here is what ive research and tested about the NCP settings. My opinions but all backed up with in game tests. Debate with evidence welcomed

    Blue - works
    Orange - works but isn't so important
    Red - leave it alone

    Ambient Occlusion - not supported in game.

    Ansiotropic Filtering - Works - can help to remove shimmers and improve overall quality but can also make shimmers worse (go figure). Lightish GPU load but can affect some systems adversely. Use if you can and see if the changes it makes suit. Setting is also affected by "Texture Filering - Ansiotropic Sample optismisation" (See below) - WORTH SOME TIME INVESTED

    Anti aliasing - FXAA - works but can reduce spotting. Is similar to in game AA (which is probably MSAA), - use one or the other. In game AA is more pronounced. WORTH EXPERIMENTING WITH

    Anti Aliasing Gamma Correction - I really don't know! No impact on performance. Is supposed to affect MSAA (some say FXAA too)- TRY ESPECIALLY IF USING IN GAME AA BUT DONT BREAK YOUR HEART OVER IT - may (just may) blur out some fuzzie but the overall effect isn't worth more than a minute of your time.

    Anti aliasing Mode - Does not affect Clod. Leave

    Anti Aliasing Setting - Does not affect Clod - Leave

    Anti-aliasing transparency - Super sampling - Works. Settings over X4 may adversely affect image. Overall effect in Clod is small. May reduce distance shimmer but Downsampling or DSR is more effective if your system can cope. - WORTH EXPERIMENTING BUT NOT OBSESSING OVER

    CUDA GPUs - Irrelevant to Clod - leave


    Maximum Pre-rendered frames - Works - Application setting is unknown - lower settings (1 -2) may improve input lag but increase the risk of stutter, higher settings may smooth out the frame rate to reduce stutter but introduce latency - most likely felt in head tracking movements - 4 is about the max before you enter pukeville - the effect can be offset by reducing the "smoothness" setting in some headtraking software. WORTH A GOOD EXPERIMENT.

    Multi Frame Sampled AA (MFAA) - Clod is not supported - Leave

    Open GL rendering GPU - Clod is D3D - Leave

    Power Management Mode - Prefer Max Performance - nothing else.

    Shader cache - Set to On

    Texture Filtering - Ansiotropic Sample Optimisation - Works - When used with Ansiotropic filtering this can reduce the load on the GPU but can also reintroduce shimmer - EXPERIMENT IF USING ANSIOTROPIC FILTERING ONCE - BEST LEFT OFF IF YOU CAN BUT MAY GAIN YOU AN EXTRA NOTCH IF YOU CANT

    Negative LOD Bias - NO longer functioning - leave

    Texture Filtering - Works - Setting to High seems to be the best compromise for Clod - if you can run it higher do so - lower setting may not gain you much on newer GPUs (700 plus)

    Ti-linear Optimisation- works. This is automatically turned off if you set Texture Filtering to High Quality. On lower setting you have the option to switch it on or off.. Basically reduces some texture quality WORTH ONE TIME TEST IF YOU ARE REALLY ON THE EDGE BUT SHOULD HAVE LITTLE OR NO IMPACT ON NEWER GPUS

    Threaded Optimisation - Leave on Auto

    Triple Buffering - Nvidia Driver supports open GL only - not supported by Nvidia in D3D - Leave

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    Salute Everybody,

    I've just checked out this Nvidia settings and works pretty well in my computer ( i5 core, 16 GB RAM, Nvidia 1060 6 GB). I checked first as original ( Post Mortem's): Anti-Aliasing FXAA ENABLED. I got and stable 118 FPS, but spots were very small.

    Same settings but FXAA DISABLED: Depending on the light of the map: from 50 to 123 FPS, but spotting is betteer. It's up to you.

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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    Thanks Boo and Baffin, really clears up a lot of stuff.

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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    Here you can find also information about how the DSR ( acronym of Dynamic Super Resolution ) works: https://www.geforce.com/hardware/tec...dsr/technology

    Said in brief...use it only if you have a monitor that does not have a native resolution of 4K or superior.
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    Re: Nvidia Control Panel Settings...

    Boo's settings are working very well with my system.
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