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    AI tweaks for Quick Missions (SP)

    Author: von Pilsen

    http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=31193

    The link in the topic for download files is now dead, but I find a version in my "junk" files, attached.

    This tweaks is what is possible do in FMB, reducing the Rookie AI fire all their ammo in a long "spray and pray" and ACE do that i/F-16/UFO maneuvers.

    This is not cure for that basic flaws of AI, e.g. a fighter group tasked to "Attack bombers" will ignore other fighters attacking then.

    Or fighters with next waypoint as "NORMAL_FLY" will ignore other fighters attacking then - example the QM "Dogfight - Allies Advantage" wheres Hurricanes
    jump a row of G.50 than continue their path ignoring the fighters firing at their six, they only react when reach the next waypoint tasked as " AATTACK_FIGHTERS",
    and as all in CloD is 'Murphy Law' at their best, that QM has only 2/3 waypoints: NORMAL_FLY > AATTACK_FIGHTERS> NORMAL_FLY.

    This issues require fix in game code.

    von Pilsen tweaked QM files (don't affect much gunners): 40 Quick Missions - Modified AI v0.6.zip

    I modify AI gunner skill in the QM - Bomber Intercept Channel - Low level (Hurricanes x Do-17), individually per plane and per gunner lowering then a bit to see in the mission became more survivable due the new "Laser aim computer" installed for AI. But 1 bomber of the 9 has skilled gunners.

    I want feedback about this mission, if worth do with others.

    QM # 11 011 - Bomber Intercept - Channel - Low Level.zip

    Place this files in Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\mission\quick\
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    Re: AI tweaks for Quick Missions (SP)

    I'll check it, TY.
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    Re: AI tweaks for Quick Missions (SP)

    Quote Originally Posted by 1lokos View Post
    Author: von Pilsen

    http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=31193

    The link in the topic for download files is now dead, but I find a version in my "junk" files, attached.

    This tweaks is what is possible do in FMB, reducing the Rookie AI fire all their ammo in a long "spray and pray" and ACE do that i/F-16/UFO maneuvers.

    This is not cure for that basic flaws of AI, e.g. a fighter group tasked to "Attack bombers" will ignore other fighters attacking then.

    Or fighters with next waypoint as "NORMAL_FLY" will ignore other fighters attacking then - example the QM "Dogfight - Allies Advantage" wheres Hurricanes
    jump a row of G.50 than continue their path ignoring the fighters firing at their six, they only react when reach the next waypoint tasked as " AATTACK_FIGHTERS",
    and as all in CloD is 'Murphy Law' at their best, that QM has only 2/3 waypoints: NORMAL_FLY > AATTACK_FIGHTERS> NORMAL_FLY.

    This issues require fix in game code.

    von Pilsen tweaked QM files (don't affect much gunners): Attachment 33287

    I modify AI gunner skill in the QM - Bomber Intercept Channel - Low level (Hurricanes x Do-17), individually per plane and per gunner lowering then a bit to see in the mission became more survivable due the new "Laser aim computer" installed for AI. But 1 bomber of the 9 has skilled gunners.

    I want feedback about this mission, if worth do with others.

    QM # 11 011 - Bomber Intercept - Channel - Low Level.zip

    Place this files in Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\mission\quick\


    1Lokos

    Você poderia reupar o AI Tweaker? O link está inválido.

    Could you upload the AI Tweaker again? The link is invalid.


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    Re: AI tweaks for Quick Missions (SP)

    Please note that if you install these tweaked Quick Missions, then later "Verify Integrity of Game Files..." in Steam, the tweaked missions will be overwritten as Steam will re-download these 19 Quick Missions as originally published.

    Also note the false advertising: "40 Quick Missions - Modified AI v0.6.zip" contains precisely 19 missions, not forty.
    Last edited by Bonditaria; Dec-28-2017 at 12:52. Reason: 40?

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    Re: AI tweaks for Quick Missions (SP)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonditaria View Post
    Please note that if you install these tweaked Quick Missions, then later "Verify Integrity of Game Files..." in Steam, the tweaked missions will be overwritten as Steam will re-download these 19 Quick Missions as originally published.
    Ease avoid this.

    Copy QM files from:

    ... \steamapps\common\IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs of Dover Blitz\parts\bob\mission\Quick

    to:

    Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\mission\quick

    Game engine priorize files there, example, read key mappings from ConfUser.INI stored in 1C folder and not the one in SteamApps folder.

    Like with DCSW custom files in USER folder STEAM update don't touch in 1C folder, so custom files are safety and original QM remain as "backup" in SteamApps folder (case someone care with the originals).

    I have custom, modified QM's in 1C folder that survive some patches.

    Also note the false advertising: "40 Quick Missions - Modified AI v0.6.zip" contains precisely 19 missions, not forty.
    No clue about that number on file tittle.

    CloD "vanilla" QM's count 29, TF add one with number 33 (no idea what happens with # 30, 31, 32).

    But some QM - that fool pointless "Free Flights" have just one aircraft, AI tweak is not needed.

    The important is: von Pilsen tweaks really change AI behavior or that skill sliders in FMB are just placebos?

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    Re: AI tweaks for Quick Missions (SP)

    An feedback about this tweak gunners skill, they change gunner "sniper" but not so much.

    https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.c...l=1#post299890

    The gunners in von.Pilsen tweaked mission, only one gunner (Person_10.1) remain with Artillery in ACE (1), but some are VETERAN (0.74) and 4 is ROOKIE (0).

    [BoB_LW_KG2_III.17]
    Flight0 B N R
    Flight1 Q L S
    Flight2 U A O
    Class Aircraft.Do-17Z-2
    Weapons 1 1 1 1 1 1 2

    Person0_0 0 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7
    Person0_1 1 0.74 0.74 0.74 0.32 0.74 0.74 0.74 0.74
    Person0_2 2 0.74 0.74 0.74 0.26 0.74 0.74 0.74 0.74
    Person0_3 3 0.74 0.74 0.74 0.37 0.74 0.74 0.74 0.74

    Person1_0 0 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3
    Person1_1 1 0.32 0.32 0.32 0.11 0.32 0.32 0.32 0.32
    Person1_2 2 0.32 0.32 0.32 0.16 0.32 0.32 0.32 0.32
    Person1_3 3 0.32 0.32 0.32 0.16 0.32 0.32 0.32 0.32

    Person2_0 0 0 0 0.053 0.053 0.053 0.053 0 0
    Person2_1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Person2_2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Person2_3 3 0 0 0 0.053 0.053 0.053 0 0

    Person10_0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
    Person10_1 1 1 1 1 0.42 0.95 0.95 0.95 0.95
    Person10_2 2 1 1 1 0.58 0.68 0.79 0.79 0.89
    Person10_3 3 1 1 0.89 0.74 0.63 0.95 0.95 0.63

    Person11_0 0 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7
    Person11_1 1 0.74 0.74 0.74 0.42 0.74 0.74 0.74 0.74
    Person11_2 2 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7
    Person11_3 3 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7

    Person12_0 0 0 0 0 0.16 0.11 0.79 0 0
    Person12_1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Person12_2 2 0 0 0 0.11 0.053 0.21 0 0
    Person12_3 3 0 0 0 0 0.053 0.053 0.84 0.053

    Person20_0 0 0.74 0.74 0.74 0.42 0.68 0.74 0.79 0.74
    Person20_1 1 0.74 0.74 0.74 0.42 0.74 0.74 0.74 0.74
    Person20_2 2 0.74 0.74 0.74 0.26 0.47 0.74 1 0.74
    Person20_3 3 0.74 0.74 0.74 0.37 0.74 0.68 0.26 0.95

    Person21_0 0 0.32 0.32 0.32 0.16 0.32 0.32 0.32 0.53
    Person21_1 1 0.32 0.32 0.32 0.16 0.32 0.32 0.37 0.32
    Person21_2 2 0.32 0.32 0.32 0.053 0.32 0.32 0.32 0.79
    Person21_3 3 0.32 0.32 0.32 0.47 0.32 0.32 0.63 0.32

    Person22_0 0 0 0 0 0.16 0.053 0 0.89 0
    Person22_1 1 0 0 0 0.11 0 0 0.21 0.79
    Person22_2 2 0 0 0 0.053 0 0 0.68 0
    Person22_3 3 0 0 0 0.16 0.11 0.053 0.42 0
    From the same mission (in 4.312 - I have no more the files of 4.50, overwrite with the above, but believe that is the same) - skill is set per plane and not per person (crew).

    [BoB_LW_KG2_III.17]
    Flight0 B N R
    Flight1 Q L S
    Flight2 U A O
    Class Aircraft.Do-17Z-2
    Formation VIC3
    CallSign 20
    Fuel 73
    Weapons 1 1 1 1 1 1 5 2
    Skill0 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 < VETERAN
    Skill1 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 < AVERAGE
    Skill2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 < ROOKIE
    Skill10 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 < ACE
    Skill11 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 < VETERAN
    Skill12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 < ROOKIE
    Skill20 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 < VETERAN
    Skill21 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 < AVERAGE
    Skill22 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 < ROOKIE
    The quotes show why mission makers don't bother much with this, is very boring to set.

    The default set in FMB is AVERAGE for bombers and fighters (per group).

    [BoB_LW_KuFlGr_706.07]
    Flight0 1 2 3
    Flight1 11 12 13
    Flight2 21 22 23
    Class Aircraft.Do-17Z-1
    Formation VIC3
    CallSign 26
    Fuel 100
    Weapons 1
    Skill 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 <<<< AVERAGE.
    Last edited by 1lokos; Jan-06-2018 at 23:56.

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    Re: AI tweaks for Quick Missions (SP)

    Same QM - 011 - Bomber Intercept Channel - Low Level with all gunner's "artillery" in 0.1 - other parameters (e.g. bravery I supposed for continue fire under fire) in Average or Veteran.

    0011 - Bomber Intercept - Channel - Low Level.zip

    Drop in ...Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\mission\quick

    Please report if is too "easy".

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    Re: AI tweaks for Quick Missions (SP)

    Quote Originally Posted by 1lokos View Post
    Same QM - 011 - Bomber Intercept Channel - Low Level with all gunner's "artillery" in 0.1 - other parameters (e.g. bravery I supposed for continue fire under fire) in Average or Veteran.

    0011 - Bomber Intercept - Channel - Low Level.zip

    Drop in ...Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\mission\quick

    Please report if is too "easy".
    I have played this mission in 4.312 and it seems realistic to me!
    (I now play it quite often!)
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    Re: AI tweaks for Quick Missions (SP)

    Quote Originally Posted by SD_MBen View Post
    I have played this mission in 4.312 and it seems realistic to me!
    (I now play it quite often!)
    Ben
    I suggest you play this tweaked QM in 4.50 and after (if have installed) play the "default" in 4.312.

    You find that in 4.312 gunners are ... "Mr. Magoo".
    Last edited by 1lokos; Jan-28-2018 at 08:49.

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