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    "Italian Stallion G.50s"

    G.50 and BF-109s action on the ATAG server Joy Division and Steamworks maps. DRock, 1./JG26_CarlMarks, Tibsun, ATAG_Ribbs, Timber and I join up to form the Italian Stallions in our G.50s and fight the RAF.

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    It's always satisfying to watch those .50 cal rounds land on target. I think I must have replayed the hits at the 3:00 mark about 5 times .

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    Re: "Italian Stallion G.50s"

    Quote Originally Posted by CarlMarks View Post
    It's always satisfying to watch those .50 cal rounds land on target. I think I must have replayed the hits at the 3:00 mark about 5 times .
    If only I could aim worth a crap in G50...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydog View Post
    If only I could aim worth a crap in G50...
    ditto

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    Re: "Italian Stallion G.50s"

    I third that

    Like throwing stones the trajectory needed. But when they hit

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    Re: "Italian Stallion G.50s"

    I hope the American ( Browning)50 Cal's come with more punch..and they should have a faster muzzel velocity. Maybe Buzz can confirm?

    I love these videos Jaydog! Itallian Stallions! Like it!

    To be honest..I feel like firing at enemy with the G50 seems to feel like what it would be in actual airial combat. If you watch the combat footage...so many time shots land and you don't see damage..like the G50..till you put one on target.
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    Video blocked by 'UMPI' for me!

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    What does UMPI stand for btw?
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    Re: "Italian Stallion G.50s"

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Lewis View Post
    Video blocked by 'UMPI' for me!

    I'm not sure what that means mate. Is it formatting?

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    Re: "Italian Stallion G.50s"

    This video contains content from UMPI, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.


    blocked for me also

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydog View Post
    I'm not sure what that means mate. Is it formatting?
    Sounds like maybe copyright issues related to the song in the video are restricting it in their regions

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    Re: "Italian Stallion G.50s"

    Quote Originally Posted by CarlMarks View Post
    Sounds like maybe copyright issues related to the song in the video are restricting it in their regions

    That sucks. Can't believe some countries actually do that. Damn censorship

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    Re: "Italian Stallion G.50s"

    Nice flying, jaydog.

    Was wondering how a twin engine like the beau can keep up in a sustained turn with the G50, as seen in the clip. Yet the Spits could not out turn it. Was the G50 way under its best turning speed?
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    Re: "Italian Stallion G.50s"

    This video contains content from UMPI, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.
    Sorry about that.
    Also blocked in The Netherlands.

    UMPI is Universal Music Publishing International, London, United Kingdom

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    Universal Music Publishing Group headquarters in Santa Monica, California, USA

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    That sucks. Can't believe some countries actually do that. Damn censorship
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    Re: "Italian Stallion G.50s"

    Quote Originally Posted by katschmarek View Post
    Nice flying, jaydog.

    Was wondering how a twin engine like the beau can keep up in a sustained turn with the G50, as seen in the clip. Yet the Spits could not out turn it. Was the G50 way under its best turning speed?
    Yeah, I was really surprised he held off that long. I'm guessing the pilot had a trick up his sleeve.

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    Re: "Italian Stallion G.50s"

    Quote Originally Posted by 69th_Zeb View Post
    Yeah, I was really surprised he held off that long. I'm guessing the pilot had a trick up his sleeve.
    Yeah, thrust vectoring by using asymmetric power settings.

    I have a recording where I, in a 109, was against a Blenny a few months ago. When I saw him getting into a turn fight with me, I thought, "ok, it'll be over quickly". It was quite deep behind our lines, so I decided it was safe to go low and slow and have a bit of fun (yes, bnz gets boring after a while). After a few seconds of the turn I was surprised he was out-turning me in a sustained flat turn on the deck, so much so that I had to break the turn, gain speed, and b'n'z him.

    I was under the impression that both the Beau and Blenny had a higher wing loading and lower T/W than the G50 and the 109 and possibly a higher stall speed and couldn't pull as much G. The only thing that I'd imagine being better, is the smaller turn circle.
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    Re: "Italian Stallion G.50s"

    Quote Originally Posted by katschmarek View Post
    Yeah, thrust vectoring by using asymmetric power settings.

    I have a recording where I, in a 109, was against a Blenny a few months ago. When I saw him getting into a turn fight with me, I thought, "ok, it'll be over quickly". It was quite deep behind our lines, so I decided it was safe to go low and slow and have a bit of fun (yes, bnz gets boring after a while). After a few seconds of the turn I was surprised he was out-turning me in a sustained flat turn on the deck, so much so that I had to break the turn, gain speed, and b'n'z him.

    I was under the impression that both the Beau and Blenny had a higher wing loading and lower T/W than the G50 and the 109 and possibly a higher stall speed and couldn't pull as much G. The only thing that I'd imagine being better, is the smaller turn circle.
    I now don my tin hat of simulatory-world physics. Yeh, the Blenny has very low wingloading compared to the Beaufighter, but if the Beau is carefully transitioned from 180 to 135 indicated using flaps, you can maintain a good rate of turn with full fuel. Thrust-vectoring actually creates a lot of drag, so everything is run at full power.

    Here's a fight from today (Blenheim in this case), where I used a bit of flaps to gain a pinch of lower stall speed. I have the engines shut off in the dive to keep the propellers from overspeeding.

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    Re: "Italian Stallion G.50s"

    Quote Originally Posted by katschmarek View Post
    Yeah, thrust vectoring by using asymmetric power settings.

    I have a recording where I, in a 109, was against a Blenny a few months ago. When I saw him getting into a turn fight with me, I thought, "ok, it'll be over quickly". It was quite deep behind our lines, so I decided it was safe to go low and slow and have a bit of fun (yes, bnz gets boring after a while). After a few seconds of the turn I was surprised he was out-turning me in a sustained flat turn on the deck, so much so that I had to break the turn, gain speed, and b'n'z him.

    I was under the impression that both the Beau and Blenny had a higher wing loading and lower T/W than the G50 and the 109 and possibly a higher stall speed and couldn't pull as much G. The only thing that I'd imagine being better, is the smaller turn circle.


    They are not to be underestimated that's for sure. Turn fighting against a Beau or Blenni can be dangerous in a 109 or G50 but more often than not I can defeat them with full power and flaps ....or by extending , climbing and dropping on them again bnz style. The only plane that scares me in the G50 is the Hurricane. Even against Spits its possible to get a maneuver kill in the 109, especially the E4B which has excellent handling and power down low by adding some flaps. Usually it becomes a matter of will and the first person to blink or make a mistake loses. As a general rule, if you cant get a good shot or maneuver kill within 2 revolutions, it might be best to break extend and gain energy and height and pray that help didn't come to bail him out. I will say the G.50 is extremely unforgiving and you have to know its limits. Just one pull too hard and you will kill your self. I have maneuver killed my self more often than I'd like to admit, but that is one of the reason why I like flying the G50 lately. It's slow, under powered and challenging and getting kills in it is rewarding.

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    Re: "Italian Stallion G.50s"

    Quote Originally Posted by 69th_Zeb View Post
    Yeah, I was really surprised he held off that long. I'm guessing the pilot had a trick up his sleeve.


    I had no choice but to keep the Beau in the turn since he was bouncing me from my 6. Breaking and extending would have been a bad idea as there is no way to outrun the Beau in a G50 and I wanted to stay out of the gunsight and cannons. Luckily I had a wingman to attack him in the turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydog View Post
    I will say the G.50 is extremely unforgiving and you have to know its limits. Just one pull too hard and you will kill your self. I have maneuver killed my self more often than I'd like to admit, but that is one of the reason why I like flying the G50 lately. It's slow, under powered and challenging and getting kills in it is rewarding.
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