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    Balloon winches causing CTDs

    When using the mission editor and placing balloon winches, my game usually crashes. Anyone else experiencing this?
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    Re: Balloon winches causing CTDs

    Hi Mat,
    Just tried placing both German winch and damaged winch on a test map and no crash. They are the only winches I could find. Are they the ones ?
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    Re: Balloon winches causing CTDs

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Torian View Post
    Hi Mat,
    Just tried placing both German winch and damaged winch on a test map and no crash. They are the only winches I could find. Are they the ones ?
    The ones I’m talking about are German Balloon Winch and British Balloon Winch. I can place one with no problem, but after placing a few I usually get a CTD.
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    Re: Balloon winches causing CTDs

    What grouping are they located in in the object browser ? Those ones I mentioned are the only ones I could find.
    I only placed 2 so will place more....about how many of them are u placing and getting crashes ?
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    Re: Balloon winches causing CTDs

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Torian View Post
    What grouping are they located in in the object browser ? Those ones I mentioned are the only ones I could find.
    I only placed 2 so will place more....about how many of them are u placing and getting crashes ?
    They’re in the “winches” section of the object browser, beneath “vehicles”.

    I usually place 6-10, maybe even 20-30, before getting a CTD.

    hstart and hend are at 2000m each, if that’s a factor.
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    Re: Balloon winches causing CTDs

    Quote Originally Posted by Cybermat47 View Post
    I usually place 6-10, maybe even 20-30, before getting a CTD.

    20 - 30 is too much, seems the problem is balloon cables - that curiously is "immaterial", don't harm planes, or, are less sophisticated than ones in il-2:46.

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    Re: Balloon winches causing CTDs

    Quote Originally Posted by Cybermat47 View Post
    They’re in the “winches” section of the object browser, beneath “vehicles”.

    I usually place 6-10, maybe even 20-30, before getting a CTD.

    hstart and hend are at 2000m each, if that’s a factor.
    D'oh I obviously didn't scroll down far enuff. Was looking in static objects.

    Ok so I placed 30 Brit and 30 German winches all at 2000m on my Manston Raid map and no ctd.

    If u want u can send me the map u are working on and I will see if it is the map or if it is rather your pc.
    PM me and I will give u my email if u want me to test it.
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    Re: Balloon winches causing CTDs

    I've done some more testing, and found that the winches will cause a CTD when placed in a specific area. I'll post the mission in the TF private section, as it's one I'm working on for 5.0.
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    Re: Balloon winches causing CTDs

    So did some more testing on 2 different pcs and not only do these winches cause a ctd in the fmb when u zoom in on them but in game they will cause a ctd as well when u fly low towards them. And this is in 4.55.
    There is obviously a BIG bug with these so would advise mission builders to remove them until a fix.
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