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    TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Hi All,

    As you are aware, TFS have been busy fixing a number of bugs, whether identified by us, and/or by community members.

    Our team have also been working on existing sounds,. Where improvements have been identified, work is in progress on improving the sound and quality of a large number of these components.

    Below is a list of some of the of the bug fixes and sound improvements we are planning on introducing in 5.0. There will also certainly be further additions.



    General

    Fixed issue rendering 75% of land vehicle sounds (armoured car, trucks, etc..) inaudible
    Fixed distance drop off for above land vehicles
    Fixed an issue causing external backfire sounds on certain aircraft to play in an infinite loop.
    Fixed missing ground impact sounds.
    Fixed missing water impact sounds.
    Fixed missing canopy movement sounds
    Fixed dynamic blasts (added to explosions and cannons)
    Revised Over-stress SFX (Restricted to Spitfires and Bf 109's only for testing)
    Revised aircraft buffeting SFX (Restricted to Spitfires and Bf 109's only for testing)
    Pneumatic brake hiss (awaiting coding)
    New supercharger whistle
    Requested klaxon coding (sound already present)
    Added dynamic panning to aircraft exterior view (pan slowly around your favourite aircraft to find out
    Implemented basic 3D positional audio (It should now be easier to locate a sound source)

    Engines

    Revised Fiat A-74
    Revised Fiat A-80
    Revised DB601 series
    Revised Jumo211 series
    Fixed Merlin sounding idle if throttle was moved under 20%-30%
    Replaced MerlinIII-RG-Spitfire/Hurricane events with Merlin I and Merlin II
    Revised Merlin early series (I to XII)
    Merlin XII Coffman Starter
    Merlin XX sound event (with later series sfx)
    Merlin 45 sound event
    DB601E variant
    DB601F variant
    DB605A variant (using experimental load sfx)
    Alfa-Romeo R.A.1000 R.C.41-I Monsone
    Allison V-1710
    Hispano Suiza 12Y-45
    Pratt & Whitney R-1830 Twin Wasp

    Weapons

    Browning M2AN
    Browning.303 variants (single, x4 and x8)
    Vickers 40mm Class S
    MAC1934
    Revised Hispano
    Revised Browning .303s

    Props

    Curtis Electric CS5315(S) prop
    Ratier 1606M prop

    Transport

    Ship_Horn_03 sound event for larger ships
    Ship_Horn_04 sound event for larger ships


    Environment

    Native bird calls.

    Bug tracker

    IL-2: Cliffs of Dover, Team Fusion Bug #850 (Resolved): Fiat G.50 engine sound cut out at high rpm when listening from outside
    IL-2: Cliffs of Dover, Team Fusion Bug #1099 (Resolved): Bad engine sound above idle in Blitz on He 111 and Ju 88 Aircraft
    IL-2: Cliffs of Dover, Team Fusion Bug #952 (Resolved): Merlin engine sounds louder at low revs than at high power
    IL-2: Cliffs of Dover, Team Fusion Bug #736 (Resolved): Bf 109: /B variants sound bug
    IL-2: Cliffs of Dover, Team Fusion Bug #1062 (Resolved): Beaufighter engine sounds periodic bass pulsing
    IL-2: Cliffs of Dover, Team Fusion Bug #547 (Resolved): Fighter 303 sounds cut out


    Cheers,

    Pattle

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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Sounds good to me!


    Thanks for the update Pat, and, as always, hat's off to TF for their ongoing hard work and dedication to this sim.

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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Good one Pat!

    Thanks mate.

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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Sounds awesome.
    Can't wait for the new sounds!

    Will the "over-stress" engine sound be over-rpm or over-boost related?
    And will there be an agressive engine sound that's independently boost (not just rpm) related?

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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Hi Tibsun

    The overstress mentioned is related to the airframe, not the engine.

    But yes, engine load effects have been in progress for a while now, however at this stage they are only tied to the DB605A, which is currently an internal engine that is being used as a test bed. Its uncertain whether they will be present in TF5 at this point.

    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tibsun View Post
    Sounds awesome.
    Can't wait for the new sounds!

    Will the "over-stress" engine sound be over-rpm or over-boost related?
    And will there be an agressive engine sound that's independently boost (not just rpm) related?

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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Slipstream View Post

    ......The overstress mentioned is related to the airframe, not the engine.
    Tibsun, if you are older, as I am, think of it as the sound your knees make when walking up the stairs....
    as opposed to the sound of your heart pounding...
    "If you want to fly, give up everything that weighs you down"......

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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    I am curious about the .303 sound. More volume or totally different sound?

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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Its totally different and quite unique. You might say, kin to the sound of heavy fabric tearing.

    I'll leave it at that for now

    Quote Originally Posted by Bussard View Post
    I am curious about the .303 sound. More volume or totally different sound?

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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Slipstream View Post
    Its totally different and quite unique. You might say, kin to the sound of heavy fabric tearing.

    I'll leave it at that for now
    Sounds awesome. If it's more like the 4.3 sound than the downgraded 4.5 sound that would be great. If you guys can go that direction with the radiator venting effects and the smoke plumes as well that would be awesome too!

    Also, what plane in 5.0 would use a DB605? Is TF up to something special?

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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Flare View Post
    Sounds awesome. If it's more like the 4.3 sound than the downgraded 4.5 sound that would be great. If you guys can go that direction with the radiator venting effects and the smoke plumes as well that would be awesome too!

    Also, what plane in 5.0 would use a DB605? Is TF up to something special?
    Smoke and flame is better now than its ever been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Slipstream View Post
    Its totally different and quite unique. You might say, kin to the sound of heavy fabric tearing.

    I'll leave it at that for now
    Very intresting

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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    As stated at the time the 4.5 sound was only interim anyway. It would have likely been the same as 4.3 if it wasn't for the fact as a professional modding team we have to verify our sources and a few couldn't be, but the majority were and included in 4.5 so it wasn't actually so much of a downgrade, except a few key sounds were missing.

    In fact it was a milestone as it was the first sound engine we could fully manipulate and I think its proven to be robust in 4.5 and a solid foundation for TF5, which should have a few surprises in store for all.

    The DB605A is currently un-used, which is why I use it as a canvas and a test bed to avoid messing up working sounds.

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Flare View Post
    Sounds awesome. If it's more like the 4.3 sound than the downgraded 4.5 sound that would be great. If you guys can go that direction with the radiator venting effects and the smoke plumes as well that would be awesome too!

    Also, what plane in 5.0 would use a DB605? Is TF up to something special?

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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Thanks for the info. Pattle.


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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Slipstream View Post
    Its totally different and quite unique. You might say, kin to the sound of heavy fabric tearing.

    I'll leave it at that for now
    Fantastic - the current sound seems too rat-tat-tatty; contemporary accounts speak of a much faster rate of fire sound, like 'calico tearing'...

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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by carbolicus View Post
    Fantastic - the current sound seems too rat-tat-tatty; contemporary accounts speak of a much faster rate of fire sound, like 'calico tearing'...
    Closer in sound to Snapper’s pants’ seam when he stoops down to pick up a dropped Figgy Duff.



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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper View Post
    Closer in sound to Snapper’s pants’ seam when he stoops down to pick up a dropped Figgy Duff.

    Now I’m gonna have this image stuck in me every time someone shoots at me with .303s
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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Noofy View Post
    Now I’m gonna have this image stuck in me every time someone shoots at me with .303s
    Have I told you about a time long ago when Snapper mistook my Hurricane for a BF109 over Sittingbourne and team killed me with a single 303 burst to the head?

    The amazing thing about it, was that the shot was perfectly placed directly through the front pane, which I saw break before lights out.

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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Slipstream View Post
    Have I told you about a time long ago when Snapper mistook my Hurricane for a BF109 over Sittingbourne and team killed me with a single 303 burst to the head?

    The amazing thing about it, was that the shot was perfectly placed directly through the front pane, which I saw break before lights out.
    It’s the only time I succeeded in a head on shot!



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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by carbolicus View Post
    Fantastic - the current sound seems too rat-tat-tatty; contemporary accounts speak of a much faster rate of fire sound, like 'calico tearing'...
    Calico?!

    DAMN IT !!

    I wanted Hessian... or canvas.

    I HATE the sound of calico in the morning



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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Highseas View Post
    Calico?!

    DAMN IT !!

    I wanted Hessian... or canvas.

    I HATE the sound of calico in the morning

    Below is a little preview of the new .303 effects and the video below that shows the effect on the enemy






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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Top stuff Pattle!

    This is a massive update update from the standpoint of emerssion!
    Will be 110% looking forward to hearing these changes


    Good work TFS and good luck with the work

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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Slipstream View Post
    Below is a little preview of the new .303 effects and the video below that shows the effect on the enemy
    Hmmm, the first video I'm seeing is of a still picture of a recorder titled "The Whistler" with a recorder music track. The second video titled "What happens when you play venga boys boom bo..." that looks like cell phone video of street activity with a boom box soundtrack. Did someone hijack the .303 effects and the effects on the enemy videos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_B_Spectre View Post
    Hmmm, the first video I'm seeing is of a still picture of a recorder titled "The Whistler" with a recorder music track. The second video titled "What happens when you play venga boys boom bo..." that looks like cell phone video of street activity with a boom box soundtrack. Did someone hijack the .303 effects and the effects on the enemy videos?
    I think it was intended as a joke...
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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    I don't think there is one sim on earth that has got a 109s external sound right yet..Don't overdo that supercharger whistle
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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Aye, it is all about finding that balance Rich, but I have plenty of faith in the chaps typing the numbers.

    I also think Cliffs is the only sim I have actually heard with the supercharger whistle, so that is definitely a bonus. All about the details

    Definitely looking forward to all those lovely effects though, really is a massive part in the emmerssion

    I wonder if a tinsy little sneak "listen" could be arranged over the next couple of months :3

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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Nice to hear
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    Re: TFS Developer Update 19 June, 2019

    Any new pix or vids available ? Any rough rock & roll ETA???
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    Quote Originally Posted by atag_snapper View Post
    it’s the only time i succeeded in a head on shot!

    mwahahahaha
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