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    Radio Navigation

    Can anyone enlighten me as to how (if?) radio navigation aids work in CLOD?
    Some maps have radio frequencies implemented.
    How do we make use of that?
    Are these just Lorentz landing aids, or can they be used as long range beacons (gonio, ADF, etc.)?
    Which aircraft are equipped to use them?
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    Re: Radio Navigation

    Beacons - Non-Directional Beacons and Long Range Beacons

    Only the He-111, Ju-88 and BR20 have gear to use these. The Bf-110 carries the gear but you can't access it because it is in the observer's position. The mission builder must set the beacon to a specific frequency, 200 - 600 khz. If you are building missions please use a frequency other than 300, the default. Also, please provide a list of frequencies in the briefing.

    If your aircraft is equipped, just tune the primary navigation frequency to the beacon you are interested in. The German aircraft have a white arrow on the master compass that will point to the beacon. Switch between two beacons to triangulate. The BR20 has an indicator showing the relative direction of the beacon.

    Lorenz

    All German aircraft except the Bf-109 have a Lorenz setup. On the ground there is a transmitter and two upward facing beacons. If you are lined up on the beam your indicator will show your alignment to the runway and signal strength. As you pass over the beacons a light will flash on the instrument so you know you are on course. They should be placed 300m and 3km from the end of the runway. Some installations had the outer beacon 5km from the runway. Again the transmitter must be set to a specific frequency. The inner and outer beacon are both at 380. Use the secondary navigation frequency to tune in. You will get interference from Non-Directional or Long Range beacons if they are at the same frequency. If you are building missions there is no reason not to have every transmitter at a unique frequency.

    The Lorenz did not work in the original version. I'm not sure when the update that fixes it will be finished testing and released.
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    Re: Radio Navigation

    Take a look at this post and maybe read some of the upper posts aswell https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.c...l=1#post141791

    EDIT: Well just look at the frequencies at first post.
    Last edited by Tibsun; Jul-05-2019 at 16:30.

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    Re: Radio Navigation

    Battle of the Beams missions: One daylight to train on, 2nd to bomb Ramsgate in the middle of the night. The airfield will give a % damaged thanks to Freya!

    https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.c...t=battle+beams

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    Re: Radio Navigation

    Also, easy training while on the London Ruft mission if it is still the same: 88 for the best results.

    Spawn at Oye Plage and fly TO Lympne on the Lympne freq.

    Spawn at Oye and fly FROM Oye to Lympne or anywhere else w/in the signal strength on Oye freq

    Target out West of Littlestone: Fly FROM Littlestone to the target area flying on the Littlestone freq.
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    Re: Radio Navigation

    This is exactly what I was looking for.

    This forum is full of knowledge

    Thank you all for your replies and for helping dig these very interesting discussions from the past.
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    Re: Radio Navigation

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Oskar View Post
    Beacons - Non-Directional Beacons and Long Range Beacons

    Only the He-111, Ju-88 and BR20 have gear to use these. The Bf-110 carries the gear but you can't access it because it is in the observer's position. The mission builder must set the beacon to a specific frequency, 200 - 600 khz. If you are building missions please use a frequency other than 300, the default. Also, please provide a list of frequencies in the briefing.

    If your aircraft is equipped, just tune the primary navigation frequency to the beacon you are interested in. The German aircraft have a white arrow on the master compass that will point to the beacon. Switch between two beacons to triangulate. The BR20 has an indicator showing the relative direction of the beacon.

    Lorenz

    All German aircraft except the Bf-109 have a Lorenz setup. On the ground there is a transmitter and two upward facing beacons. If you are lined up on the beam your indicator will show your alignment to the runway and signal strength. As you pass over the beacons a light will flash on the instrument so you know you are on course. They should be placed 300m and 3km from the end of the runway. Some installations had the outer beacon 5km from the runway. Again the transmitter must be set to a specific frequency. The inner and outer beacon are both at 380. Use the secondary navigation frequency to tune in. You will get interference from Non-Directional or Long Range beacons if they are at the same frequency. If you are building missions there is no reason not to have every transmitter at a unique frequency.

    The Lorenz did not work in the original version. I'm not sure when the update that fixes it will be finished testing and released.
    Sorry for repeating post written here few days ago but I have huge problem: cannot change any frequency only on Germans planes secondary Nav. Freq. that is always default 300 KHz, others don't shows anything, Lorenz is dead too. BR 20 changes Primary Radio Nav. Freq. but indicator is dead too. All NDB are tuned properly, markers turned right on proper places, simply radio navigation don't exist in my case.

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    Re: Radio Navigation

    Quote Originally Posted by COA View Post
    Sorry for repeating post written here few days ago but I have huge problem: cannot change any frequency only on Germans planes secondary Nav. Freq. that is always default 300 KHz, others don't shows anything, Lorenz is dead too. BR 20 changes Primary Radio Nav. Freq. but indicator is dead too. All NDB are tuned properly, markers turned right on proper places, simply radio navigation don't exist in my case.
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