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    Angry More armies more colours!

    Sooo... I can get the airfields to be different armies[colours], and get the spawn flags for different coloured armies. When I try to select the gold army the spawn turns white to select, and nada.. wont let me spawn.

    Is it even possible to have 3-6 different armies as a selection for multiplayer? I'm trying to do away with the red and blue, and have Turquoise, Gold, Emerald, and Brown.



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    Re: More armies more colours!

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    Re: More armies more colours!

    Sounds like the old Fighter Ace days!
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    Re: More armies more colours!

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    Re: More armies more colours!

    Exactly, or group on group dogfights!

    My intent was to make 4 armies, and have one group low skill ai, another group ai higher, and the last one expert ai. thus you cna fight in Tigermoths, and hunt for specific skill levels. Get some varied practice in.

    Or, capture teh spawn point. Have bombers land at opposing airfields and take control.

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    Re: More armies more colours!

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Lord Wukits View Post
    Exactly, or group on group dogfights!

    My intent was to make 4 armies, and have one group low skill ai, another group ai higher, and the last one expert ai. thus you cna fight in Tigermoths, and hunt for specific skill levels. Get some varied practice in.

    Or, capture teh spawn point. Have bombers land at opposing airfields and take control.
    I hope you get this to work - sounds like it is going to be a lot of fun with plenty going on for every skill level.

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    Re: More armies more colours!

    The answer is that there are only 3 Nations that have the code in place to be able to select aircraft. UK, Germany and Italy.
    So u can create the Spawn point in any colour that is available but it must have 1 of those 3 nations selected in the "Armies" menu and since there are only 3 available it means u are limited to 3 colours that can have aircraft as each of those 3 nations can only be assigned once to one colour only.
    U will see that when u go into Object Browser and select "Spawn point" that the "Spawn area" tab drop down menu will only show a max of 3 colours which are the ones u have assigned one of those 3 nations to.
    All aircraft are available to each spawn point but they will bear the insignia of the nation selected.
    My guess is that the original coders built in the capacity to add more nations with their corresponding aircraft insignia and have the capacity to assign different colours to their spawn points.
    I don't know what it would take for our current coders to be able to make available the current aircraft set to every nation in the "Armies" menu and thus be able to use all the colours but of course there would not be the matching insignia and the code may not permit multiple instances of the same insignia of our current 3 nation set in a different "Army" colour.

    Interestingly, Australia is not one of the nations listed but New Zealand is...go figure.
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    Re: More armies more colours!

    I've been fiddling with it for a few weeks, too. With its csharp (c #) support iL2Cod offers quite good conditions. But knowledge in c# sharp is essential.

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    Re: More armies more colours!

    Changes would have to be made to the game code to support this.

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    Re: More armies more colours!

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Torian View Post

    Interestingly, Australia is not one of the nations listed but New Zealand is...go figure.

    Yeah, I was shocked at this too. Maybe we should start calling them all kiwis....<hide>


    The list of available nations was kinda uprising as some of the heavy pre/early war hitters are not listed, but some countries that may have had one meaningful engagement are listed.

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    Re: More armies more colours!

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Torian View Post
    The answer is that there are only 3 Nations that have the code in place to be able to select aircraft. UK, Germany and Italy.
    So u can create the Spawn point in any colour that is available but it must have 1 of those 3 nations selected in the "Armies" menu and since there are only 3 available it means u are limited to 3 colours that can have aircraft as each of those 3 nations can only be assigned once to one colour only.
    What about the army "None"?

    I'll have to try this asap when I get home.

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    Re: More armies more colours!

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Lord Wukits View Post
    What about the army "None"?

    I'll have to try this asap when I get home.
    Same rule applies. U wont get any aircraft unless u assign GB, Germany or Italy to it and it wont appear in the drop down menu in Spawn area.
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    Re: More armies more colours!

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Ribbs View Post
    Sounds like the old Fighter Ace days!
    I think the MMO or multiplayer aspect back then was more fun, the simplistic Idea of the 5-way country setup appeals to me still.

    You knew who you were fighting for and everyone else was the enemy You lose all your territory pick another team. Last country standing flips the Map.

    Green - GB, Yellow - USA, Red - Soviet, Purple - Germany, Light Blue - Japan.

    More recently games tend to be hung up on visuals and accuracy when all we wanted to do was kill everything.

    To get ahead of the competition I think alot of effort needs to be placed on the mission editors and server admins to create an online space that people keep coming back for more.

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