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    Ripetitive freezes

    CoD always run fine...untill now:

    during the game lot of freeze occur, each one about 1 / 4 seconds then go well (several seconds), freeze again and so on. During the freeze there no sound.
    I haven' t any ideas, I reinstalled the game , updated driver. Nothing work

    Anyone can help me?

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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    Check that your game, in video options, is set to Pseudo...probably reinstalling it, is now on Full screen on
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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    I run full screen with no issue at all. I think this was fixed and only affected 1080ti cards from memory...

    my memory is terrible though.

    First thing I would do is clear your game cache located in "My Documents" 1C SoftClub

    open up the cache and delete everything in there.

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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    All done right now, but don' t work.

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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    Is this in single player or multiplayer (if so which server) or both?

    can you post your machine specs / internet speeds?


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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    1-Both
    2-cpu: i5 750;
    gpu: gtx 660;
    ram: 6 MB;
    internet speed: 20 MB.

    However it' s always ran smooth, usually about 45 fps, res 1080, settings high.
    Could it be video driver?

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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    Quote Originally Posted by Lou View Post
    1-Both
    2-cpu: i5 750;
    gpu: gtx 660;
    ram: 6 MB;
    internet speed: 20 MB.

    However it' s always ran smooth, usually about 45 fps, res 1080, settings high.
    Could it be video driver?
    Try your graphics settings to medium or low and test it out.

    I it runs smooth, the card is most likely your problem.

    Not sure that gtx660 can run on high graphic setting. Mine couldn’t.

    I’d recommend at least a 1000 series card for this sim.



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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    High or low settings doesn ' t make any differences.
    The issue appears suddenly, when I played it the day before it was ok. Or maybe it was the same day some hour later, I exactly don' t remember.

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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    So check that you don't have any program like antiviruses, Hamachi or similar. Most of the times stutters comes from programs running in background unnoticed by the user.
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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    Possibly windows update?

    When was it ok for you?

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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    Another option: Have you tried to reload a restore point of when the game was running fine?
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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    I may be related to an update of either Windows or a Video Card driver.

    You might think about checking your NVidia updates and rolling back your video card driver if it was updated just at the time you had problems.

    The also may be the video card failing... when did you purchase the card? Does it work well with other games?

    Also check your RAM... are they ok?

    Then there is the dreaded 3rd party software.... Did you install anything about the same time you started having problems?

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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    Quote Originally Posted by Erpr.Gr.210_Molders View Post
    So check that you don't have any program like antiviruses, Hamachi or similar. Most of the times stutters comes from programs running in background unnoticed by the user.
    No hamachi, antivirus as always.

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_DRock View Post
    Possibly windows update?


    When was it ok for you?
    windows is updated

    Quote Originally Posted by Erpr.Gr.210_Molders View Post
    Another option: Have you tried to reload a restore point of when the game was running fine?
    I don' t have a restore point

    Quote Originally Posted by RAF74_Buzzsaw View Post
    I may be related to an update of either Windows or a Video Card driver.

    You might think about checking your NVidia updates and rolling back your video card driver if it was updated just at the time you had problems.

    The also may be the video card failing... when did you purchase the card? Does it work well with other games?

    Also check your RAM... are they ok?

    Then there is the dreaded 3rd party software.... Did you install anything about the same time you started having problems?
    FSX run well. I checked with gpu-z and I saw graphic card stop working during the freeze. Ram is ok.

    I remembered a pop up message by nvidia, but I didn' t read it.

    Is it possible downshitfting to old driver ? On nvidia website there' s only the last drivers.

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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    Quote Originally Posted by Lou View Post


    Is it possible downshitfting to old driver ? On nvidia website there' s only the last drivers.
    Yes it is possible, just head over to this site and where it says Beta and Older Drivers, click on that, then choose your GPU


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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    If all the software is ok, it is worth removing the PC case and checking the dust/fluff levels.

    Clumps of fluff can overheat GPU's and CPU's if air cooled (fins and fans). I call these clumps of dust/fluff "wookies". The blades of the fans, especially the edges should be clean and cleared from all debris - a small amount of dirt here really reduces the effectiveness of the fan. The cooling fins should also be clear to allow airflow.

    If you have not done this before, it is well worth doing. I treat this as a Winter / Summer maintenance task. During winter as the heating is normally on (warm) and Summer as it is normally ambiently hot.

    There are plenty of videos on the web about this, watch a few of them to get a good grasp of the task. If in doubt, seek further advice.

    It is common for a GPU to overheat and fail/restart - which you mentioned : "FSX run well. I checked with gpu-z and I saw graphic card stop working during the freeze. Ram is ok." This could have been the pop-up you missed reading. "Graphics card or driver has failed and has been restarted" or "Graphics card/driver has encountered and problem and has been restarted" or similar.

    Check your software and see if you can get any temperature data of the cards/cpu - compare that to the spec-sheet of your cards/cpu - you might be spiking above its specified range.

    Also, avoid confusion between GPU usage dropping during the freezing and the GPU no longer working - the GPU has very little to draw during a hung application - thus lower usage. Compare messages in your GPU software and Windows Event Viewer to get a clearer 'picture' (no pun intended) of the problem/symptoms. If Event Viewer stats the software/driver has been restarted around the same time as the freezing - then it's a good indication to use.

    With Windows 10, some updates can upset Directx on some cards/variants - which requires the removal and re-installation of the GPU software and driver. It is worth googling your particular card and windows 10. You can get the DirectX version the PC thinks it is running via DXdiag. Compare that with what your GPU can/should be.

    Some GPU software has "overclocking" options, try lowering/restoring anything you may have changed - some software has a default of "overclocked" or "Turbo" etc - try un-selecting/disabling the option. It is counter-intuative to reduce/lower these settings - but for trouble-shooting I would give it ago.

    Also, when in the game, there could be a pattern of when issues arise. On some servers there are 'custom skins'. As these are recieved by your client - there will be a stutter/pause while the transfer is completed. Most servers ask that the skin be 500kb max to reduce the impact to a second or two - rather than 1-2minutes of slideshow for a 2mb skin. Check your 'Cache' folder in the 1csoft folder (my documents) - sort by size. Ignore the 12mb Picture.bmp - the game uses that to process a recieved skin.

    You mentioned this occured in single player - were there any fires in the scene or was there a bombing run in progress? How many aircraft were in the scene? These all add up and can cause stutters/problems. Example, if I have 12 Ju88 bombers on a bomb run with lots of little bombs - when the bombs expode - I get a stutter due to sheer amount of seperate blasts.

    Smoke in the game is a massive hit as it is 'particle based' (gazzilions of dots) - if you arrive onto a scene where there is a fire - the fire will re-create itself as you near it - this can cause a stutter.

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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    I had this problem a few years back with ARMA2, random freezes, almost drove me mad. Turned out to be Windows search indexer was running overtime in the background and was hogging resources, once i disabled the service problem solved. Might not be relevant to you but worth a check. I used the program below to identify what was eating up my computers resources so might be of help

    https://www.moo0.com/?top=https://ww...SystemMonitor/
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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    Before you start cleaning the Computer make sure you turn off the power and unplug!!!!!

    And don't put anything metal in the case which touches the CPU or motherboard!!!!!

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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    I' ve a new: if I quit the game (pressing windows button) and resume after half an hour it go well.

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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    Quote Originally Posted by Lou View Post
    I' ve a new: if I quit the game (pressing windows button) and resume after half an hour it go well.
    Then the problem is likely your computer is overheating.

    Either that or somehow you are building up a cache during the play of the game which overloads the computer.

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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

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    CPU temperature is about 50/55 °C

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    I was guessing a thing...If you are using Win 10 disable the Ibernate state ( it generates problems very often ) and drains resources...

    - Have you tried disabling/enabling hyper threading?
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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    Quote Originally Posted by TWC_Mackers View Post
    If all the software is ok, it is worth removing the PC case and checking the dust/fluff levels.

    Clumps of fluff can overheat GPU's and CPU's if air cooled (fins and fans). I call these clumps of dust/fluff "wookies". The blades of the fans, especially the edges should be clean and cleared from all debris - a small amount of dirt here really reduces the effectiveness of the fan. The cooling fins should also be clear to allow airflow.

    If you have not done this before, it is well worth doing. I treat this as a Winter / Summer maintenance task. During winter as the heating is normally on (warm) and Summer as it is normally ambiently hot.

    There are plenty of videos on the web about this, watch a few of them to get a good grasp of the task. If in doubt, seek further advice.

    It is common for a GPU to overheat and fail/restart - which you mentioned : "FSX run well. I checked with gpu-z and I saw graphic card stop working during the freeze. Ram is ok." This could have been the pop-up you missed reading. "Graphics card or driver has failed and has been restarted" or "Graphics card/driver has encountered and problem and has been restarted" or similar.

    Check your software and see if you can get any temperature data of the cards/cpu - compare that to the spec-sheet of your cards/cpu - you might be spiking above its specified range.

    Also, avoid confusion between GPU usage dropping during the freezing and the GPU no longer working - the GPU has very little to draw during a hung application - thus lower usage. Compare messages in your GPU software and Windows Event Viewer to get a clearer 'picture' (no pun intended) of the problem/symptoms. If Event Viewer stats the software/driver has been restarted around the same time as the freezing - then it's a good indication to use.

    With Windows 10, some updates can upset Directx on some cards/variants - which requires the removal and re-installation of the GPU software and driver. It is worth googling your particular card and windows 10. You can get the DirectX version the PC thinks it is running via DXdiag. Compare that with what your GPU can/should be.
    Some GPU software has "overclocking" options, try lowering/restoring anything you may have changed - some software has a default of "overclocked" or "Turbo" etc - try un-selecting/disabling the option. It is counter-intuative to reduce/lower these settings - but for trouble-shooting I would give it ago.

    Also, when in the game, there could be a pattern of when issues arise. On some servers there are 'custom skins'. As these are recieved by your client - there will be a stutter/pause while the transfer is completed. Most servers ask that the skin be 500kb max to reduce the impact to a second or two - rather than 1-2minutes of slideshow for a 2mb skin. Check your 'Cache' folder in the 1csoft folder (my documents) - sort by size. Ignore the 12mb Picture.bmp - the game uses that to process a recieved skin.

    You mentioned this occured in single player - were there any fires in the scene or was there a bombing run in progress? How many aircraft were in the scene? These all add up and can cause stutters/problems. Example, if I have 12 Ju88 bombers on a bomb run with lots of little bombs - when the bombs expode - I get a stutter due to sheer amount of seperate blasts.

    Smoke in the game is a massive hit as it is 'particle based' (gazzilions of dots) - if you arrive onto a scene where there is a fire - the fire will re-create itself as you near it - this can cause a stutter.

    Sorry for the wall of text - I am literally awaiting paint to dry - thus have too much time on my hands. However, I hope some of this may help discover the problem/fix/expectations.
    Good stuff there Mackers, well worth a careful read of all of that post.
    Have had the Windows update messing up the nVidia drivers thing, a royal PIA but easily fixed with a clean re-install of the driver.
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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

    - Can you post a video of your problem so to being capable of understanding in a better way what's going on on your pc ? It will surely help a lot!
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    Re: Ripetitive freezes

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    CPU temperature is about 50/55 °C
    Oddly, with Arma 3 during the summer months a few years ago - I noticed my motherboard [GA-990FXA-UD3] throttled itself at 55 degrees. Didn't crash the game nor generate a pop-up - simply turned the game into a slide-show. Exiting the game until the motherboard cooled down - allowed me to play again. This took some exploring to discover the cause - it wasn't the usual CPU/GPU clogged up with wookies. It was a motherboard thermal protection system to prevent it overheating before it could cause damage.

    I would have thought the outrage this caused [55 degrees is a bit low] no other motherboard would have had this sensitivity so low. It is however worth investigating on your components - just incase.

    I could play CloD for 3 hours or Arma for 1 hour before the thermal protection on the motherboard kicked in. My GPU and CPU were both in a happy place. Goes to show - not all games are equal in terms of the stresses put upon your machine.
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