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    Spitfire Vb' v Bf-109F-4' over the channel

    IL-2 Sturmovik Desert Wings Tobruk, sees the channel map scenario extend from the end of the Battle of Britain to August, 1941. Here are screenshots of a dog fight between Spitfire Vb's and Bf 109F-4's!

    Vb v F4(2).jpg

    Vb v F4.jpg

    F4 v Vb (1).jpg

    F4 v Vb (2).jpg

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    Re: Spitfire Vb' v Bf-109F-4' over the channel

    I just saw the post in Facebook.

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    Re: Spitfire Vb' v Bf-109F-4' over the channel

    Beautiful! I love the first shot

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    Re: Spitfire Vb' v Bf-109F-4' over the channel

    Looks great accept for the placement of the I./JG27 insignia. That's where they all showed up in all the old IL-2 games but most Jagdgeswader insignias were on the cowling. Don't mean to be a pain but I do the Homer DOH! every time I see them on the side of the fuselag. If "BOS "can get everything in the right place can't we??


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    Re: Spitfire Vb' v Bf-109F-4' over the channel

    nice shiny new spitty, straight out of the factory, beautiful
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    Re: Spitfire Vb' v Bf-109F-4' over the channel

    Excellent screenshots, thanks for sharing! Definitely liking the look of that Vb

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    Re: Spitfire Vb' v Bf-109F-4' over the channel

    I'm sorry, but I can't help but comment that the markings are much, much too bright and way too colourful. This looks terrible.
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    Re: Spitfire Vb' v Bf-109F-4' over the channel

    Quote Originally Posted by major_setback View Post
    I'm sorry, but I can't help but comment that the markings are much, much too bright and way too colourful. This looks terrible.
    Yes, I agree with major setback - but I never use the sim's paintschemes anyway for this reason, and hopefully we'll get some great skins from contributors like we did before - including you of course major! I create my own with little difficulty (although they are basic compared with the experts')

    But also disappointed to see in the third pic both aircraft with rudders jammed hard over. Believe me, real pilots don't do that at speed unless you want to pull the tail off. Full rudder is only used in low airspeed manoevers (steering on the ground, spin recovery, or to fly a stall-turn or a flick roll), so the AI is clearly still bugged.

    Having said that, great job TF nevertheless, and looking forward hugely to release date.

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    Re: Spitfire Vb' v Bf-109F-4' over the channel

    The rudder issue is weird as I am sure it was fixed a couple patches ago?
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    Re: Spitfire Vb' v Bf-109F-4' over the channel

    're the rudder of the 109. I was flying that. Not AI.

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    Re: Spitfire Vb' v Bf-109F-4' over the channel

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Pattle View Post
    're the rudder of the 109. I was flying that. Not AI.
    Gee, next time show us a little more rudder coordination for the camera, you make yourself look like an AI


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    Re: Spitfire Vb' v Bf-109F-4' over the channel

    Quote Originally Posted by IIJG27Rich View Post
    Looks great accept for the placement of the I./JG27 insignia. That's where they all showed up in all the old IL-2 games but most Jagdgeswader insignias were on the cowling. Don't mean to be a pain but I do the Homer DOH! every time I see them on the side of the fuselag. If "BOS "can get everything in the right place can't we??


    Messerschmitt-Bf-109F4Trop-1.JG27-White-11-Albert-Espenlaub-WNr-8477-El-Adem-Dec-1941-0A.jpg

    Definitely in the wrong place

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    Re: Spitfire Vb' v Bf-109F-4' over the channel

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Pattle View Post
    're the rudder of the 109. I was flying that. Not AI.
    Hi Pattle - Yes but the Spit has full rudder on also. Best way to see for yourself is to set up an AI flight and watch it happen in turns - usually just the leader does it.

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    Re: Spitfire Vb' v Bf-109F-4' over the channel

    Quote Originally Posted by IIJG27Rich View Post
    Looks great accept for the placement of the I./JG27 insignia. That's where they all showed up in all the old IL-2 games but most Jagdgeswader insignias were on the cowling. Don't mean to be a pain but I do the Homer DOH! every time I see them on the side of the fuselag. If "BOS "can get everything in the right place can't we??


    Messerschmitt-Bf-109F4Trop-1.JG27-White-11-Albert-Espenlaub-WNr-8477-El-Adem-Dec-1941-0A.jpg
    A lot of time and effort has been spent on this area by other members of the team.
    We are well aware of the correct placement. At the present time other changes, as well as the implementation of new material has taken priority.
    Your request is noted.
    Cheers
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    Re: Spitfire Vb' v Bf-109F-4' over the channel

    Quote Originally Posted by major_setback View Post
    A lot of time and effort has been spent on this area by other members of the team.
    We are well aware of the correct placement. At the present time other changes, as well as the implementation of new material has taken priority.
    Your request is noted.
    Cheers
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    Re: Spitfire Vb' v Bf-109F-4' over the channel

    Quote Originally Posted by major_setback View Post
    A lot of time and effort has been spent on this area by other members of the team.
    We are well aware of the correct placement. At the present time other changes, as well as the implementation of new material has taken priority.
    Your request is noted.
    Cheers
    Would not worry about that.
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