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    Flyable Anson

    How many player would enjoy having a flyable Avro Anson in the game, if TF were willing to model one?


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    Re: Flyable Anson

    I think I'd rather have the Dornier D0-17 & 217 flyable if I had a choice.Its been around in CloD since the beginning and gets a lot more use than the Anson. You might argue for the Sunderland or for that matter the unlovely but useful Supermarine Walrus, but I think the Dornier would get my first vote...
    ( Of course I'm just dreaming..we already have a lot to look forward to...)
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    Re: Flyable Anson

    what exactly would you do with an Anson ? wasn't it just a twin trainer ??


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    Re: Flyable Anson

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    I think I'd rather have the Dornier D0-17 & 217 flyable if I had a choice.Its been around in CloD since the beginning and gets a lot more use than the Anson. You might argue for the Sunderland or for that matter the unlovely but useful Supermarine Walrus, but I think the Dornier would get my first vote...
    ( Of course I'm just dreaming..we already have a lot to look forward to...)

    For something totally different I would say Supermarine Walrus to fly rescue missions!


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    Re: Flyable Anson

    Sunderland or Do-17 as flyable would be interesting.TFS have already said they made a false cockpit to fly test the Sunderland but to make an historically accurate and modelled version would be a lot of work for a limited interest aircraft.
    The Do-17 I think is a good shout but there is so little reference material to model from.
    Personally, and as CloD can handle large formations, I hope the tea. Give us a Pt1C, a Razorback and 4 engine bomber, either B17 or B24....that would be spectacular!
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    Re: Flyable Anson

    I really don't know what the Anson could bring to the game that isn't already covered by the Blenheim. What I'd love to see is a Fieseler Storch. It would be a fantastic tool to just explore the Channel map and make good use of that STOL capability to land on random fields. Pretty useless otherwise, though!
    Last edited by Pans; Jul-20-2020 at 16:41.

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    Re: Flyable Anson

    A flyable Beaufort, Battle, Hampden, Walrus, He,59, He-115, Do-17/215, or SM-79 would all be more welcome as a new multi-crew plane in CloD. Especially the Dornier or Spaviero. The Anson was basically just a trainer and is not really necessary.

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    Re: Flyable Anson

    If you're after something to explore the place with, try the upcomming german trainer aircraft. (Forgot the model name)
    It should make a nice little run about plane, pop some civi paint on it and bob's your uncle!

    I will admit, the Sunderland would be a spectacular aircraft to fly, but when the time comes. We have a pretty spectacular lineup already, and the right lineup I think, concidering the base sim is around the battle between Germany and Britain and some of the iconic planes brought to light during that time, I genuinely believe that making the list of MKs of Spits and Hurris and Messershmitts far broader was definitely the right way to go!
    One thing that got me with Cliffs, is that none of the IL2 series focused on British planes, Cliffs did from the start, one thing I would love to see is that that never changes
    Great work once again to TFS for keeping that idea going

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    Re: Flyable Anson

    Simply for the sake of variety a water-borne aircraft would be fun. I used to enjoy flying them in 1946, just for a different experience.

    The Walrus would suit fab. Though ultimately the sheer scale of a Sunderland would be wonderfully immersive to fly. Plus loaded with bombs / depth charges it could be used offensively. I've sat in a Sunderland (Sandringham) cockpit in the Southamptons' Solent Sky museum. Hearing of how many hours have gone into creating the flyable Wellington though I'd not seriously suggest a Sunderland.

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    Re: Flyable Anson

    Unfortunately making twin engined multi cockpit aircraft is a huge task.

    The Anson was limited to training bomber pilots and some Anti-Sub patrols. It saw next to no combat.

    If we go on to TF 6.0, our next twin engined, (or four engined) type will be one which saw a lot of combat and which will fit with the next module.

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    Re: Flyable Anson

    Well, although limited in scope, the poll says it all.
    I thought of the Anson based on a couple of considerations. One is how enjoyable the Anson is to fly (it is available as a third-party add-on in "another" sim) and how much I enjoy periodically flying over England and France in COD, just to view the almost unbelievable detail that can be seen by doing so. I thought the Anson, with it's greenhouse windows and pleasant flying qualities, would be an ideal platform for this.
    That the Anson wasn't used as a combat aircraft, but rather for training, transport and liaison, cannot be argued with. So I demur to the community and it's desire for a more "lethal" addition to our stable. There are plenty of aircraft that could be added besides the Anson that I would be delighted to see.
    Thank you all for the responses and happy flying!
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    Re: Flyable Anson

    Quote Originally Posted by chris455 View Post
    Well, although limited in scope, the poll says it all.
    I thought of the Anson based on a couple of considerations. One is how enjoyable the Anson is to fly (it is available as a third-party add-on in "another" sim) and how much I enjoy periodically flying over England and France in COD, just to view the almost unbelievable detail that can be seen by doing so. I thought the Anson, with it's greenhouse windows and pleasant flying qualities, would be an ideal platform for this.
    That the Anson wasn't used as a combat aircraft, but rather for training, transport and liaison, cannot be argued with. So I demur to the community and it's desire for a more "lethal" addition to our stable. There are plenty of aircraft that could be added besides the Anson that I would be delighted to see.
    Thank you all for the responses and happy flying!
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    Don't get us wrong. It would be wonderful to have a flyable Anson, and for a long time it was a wish of mine. But considering the huuuuge amount of time it takes to make flyable cockpits it is unfortunately not likely. It is just a fact that there are so many more desirable aircraft to make, and with the time constraints we have upon us, the most popular aircraft end up taking priority.

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    Re: Flyable Anson

    Ok, let's keep it single engine with a Blohm & Voss BV 141
    I just want to see the fighters aim at the center of the plane and wonder why they never kill the pilot!

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    Re: Flyable Anson

    The aircraft in your logo for example, would be a great addition to the game at some point.

    Quote Originally Posted by chris455 View Post
    Well, although limited in scope, the poll says it all.
    I thought of the Anson based on a couple of considerations. One is how enjoyable the Anson is to fly (it is available as a third-party add-on in "another" sim) and how much I enjoy periodically flying over England and France in COD, just to view the almost unbelievable detail that can be seen by doing so. I thought the Anson, with it's greenhouse windows and pleasant flying qualities, would be an ideal platform for this.
    That the Anson wasn't used as a combat aircraft, but rather for training, transport and liaison, cannot be argued with. So I demur to the community and it's desire for a more "lethal" addition to our stable. There are plenty of aircraft that could be added besides the Anson that I would be delighted to see.
    Thank you all for the responses and happy flying!
    Chris

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    Re: Flyable Anson

    A flyable Mosquito, what a lovely and versatile plane!

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    Re: Flyable Anson

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_TCP View Post
    If you're after something to explore the place with, try the upcomming german trainer aircraft. (Forgot the model name)
    It should make a nice little run about plane, pop some civi paint on it and bob's your uncle!
    Bf 108 Taifun. It's a very different type, much more conventional than the Storch with a much higher(relatively) cruise and take off/ landing speed. Nor does it have the latter's incredible STOL ability. A contemporary comparison to their respective capabilities might be a Robin 401 compared to a Piper Super Cub.

    Nonetheless, I think I understand why TFS chose the Taifun - the model was already in Cliffs as a non-flyable. I'm sure there were probably other reasons, but if you're looking to add such an aircraft it makes sense to add the one that will take the least work!
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    Re: Flyable Anson

    Quote Originally Posted by RAF74_Buzzsaw View Post
    The aircraft in your logo for example, would be a great addition to the game at some point.
    Buzzsaw, you're right, and I hope you have at least had a chance to "give her a go" in the "other" IL2. She is AWESOME.
    But in truth, in keeping with the British "Spirit" of the sim, I would rather see a Far East scenario, possibly Malaya or Hong Kong, replete with Brewster F2A Buffaloes, Hurricanes, Ki-43s, and and other aerial combatants. Time will tell..........
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    Re: Flyable Anson

    Quote Originally Posted by RAF74_Buzzsaw View Post
    Unfortunately making twin engined multi cockpit aircraft is a huge task.

    The Anson was limited to training bomber pilots and some Anti-Sub patrols. It saw next to no combat.

    If we go on to TF 6.0, our next twin engined, (or four engined) type will be one which saw a lot of combat and which will fit with the next module.

    Buzz, is for TFS 6.0 the Eastern Front or the Winter War (Finland 39-40) still an option? Winter War would be interesting. Most of the Finnish aircraft are already available and would make a great snow map with all the lakes. Finland with 114 combat ready aircraft versus Soviets with 2.500 at the start of the war makes it a challenge to fly for the Finnish side in missions and campaigns. Indeed a flashback to IL-2 Forgotten Battles from 2003.

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    Re: Flyable Anson

    Quote Originally Posted by 9./JG52 Pans View Post
    Bf 108 Taifun. It's a very different type, much more conventional than the Storch with a much higher(relatively) cruise and take off/ landing speed. Nor does it have the latter's incredible STOL ability. A contemporary comparison to their respective capabilities might be a Robin 401 compared to a Piper Super Cub.

    Nonetheless, I think I understand why TFS chose the Taifun - the model was already in Cliffs as a non-flyable. I'm sure there were probably other reasons, but if you're looking to add such an aircraft it makes sense to add the one that will take the least work!
    The 108 is like a Mooney from the 30s ..My opinion

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    Re: Flyable Anson

    Quote Originally Posted by Bussard View Post
    For something totally different I would say Supermarine Walrus to fly rescue missions!

    What a find

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    Re: Flyable Anson

    Quote Originally Posted by RAF74_Buzzsaw View Post
    The aircraft in your logo for example, would be a great addition to the game at some point.
    would love to see it, fast and tough with bombs,rockets and lots of guns, it covers all the bases
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