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    Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    Hi Folks,

    in the next hours my first multiplayer-mission will be launched on Team Fusion #3.

    It's a non-historic Tobruk-scenario with Tobruk under siege by the Blues.

    The mission is based on Team-Fusion Code by Artist.

    I will post the briefings soon.

    Have fun and report issues here.

    Greets
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    Re: Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    Briefing for Red

    Version 1.1.9

    Targets Red:

    Maintain Air superiority over Tobruk to cover own offensive forces.

    Destroy halted Axis armored group west of Balaf ash Shaqitah (AU/3), waiting for further orders. (24 pts.)

    Airfields: Sidi Rezegh, Haqfat Sha'ban, el Adem No 1, el Adem No 2, Menelao Bay. (20 pts. per airfield)

    German tanker convoy (1pt. per ship), outbound Bomba heading north. Last seen in AH/23.

    Two Leizpig-class-cruiser (Leipzig and Nürnberg), left Derna about 1 hour ago and heading east. Last seen in AE/26. (10 pts. each)

    Fuel harbour Tmini, destroy fuel installations and tankers. (5 pts.)

    Fuel depot near el Adem (AO/16), destroy fuel installations and vehicles. (20 pts.)

    Seaplane base Ain el Gazala, destroy the seaplanes. (5 pts.)

    Cargo column near Gazala heading east. (2 pts. - as it is half big as a british column)

    Expect several Axis columns appearing during the mission. They will be announced as soon as reconned. (2 pts. each)

    Radar stations: Gazala, Shu'Bat al Jandal, Sidi Rezegh, Bi'r al Hakim, Almaiah Alkhafia, Awdyat Ash Ahiyah (destruction will reduce enemy's radar capability).

    POINTS TO WIN: 150 pts.

    Defend:

    Protect halted Allied armored group south west of Mingar el Abram (AZ/6).

    Airfields: Tobruk No 1, Tobruk No 2 (LG145) el Gubbi, Tobruk No 3 (LG146), Tobruk No 5, Sidi Azeiz.

    British tanker convoy, outbound Tobruk heading north-east. Presently located in AP/20.

    HMS Warspite, left Bardia about one hour ago heading north. Presently located in BA/16.

    Fuel harbour Bardia, fuel installations.

    Fort Perrone (AP/19), vehicles and environment.

    Fort Pilastrino (AP/18), vehicles and environment.

    Seaplane base Sollum, seaplanes.

    Cargo Column near Gambut heading east.

    Expect several Allied columns appearing during the mission. They will be announced as soon as reported.

    Radar stations: Tobruk, Abiar Zaid, Gasr el Abid, Scegga, Sidi Aziz, El Baheira.


    AI-bombers available in "Mission"-Menu.

    Be aware of Axis fighter patrols!

    NDB-beacons available on active airfields:

    - Scegga No. 2 (350)
    - Scegga No. 1 (351)
    - Gasr el Abid (352)
    - Sidi Azeiz (353)
    - Bi'r el Baheira (354)
    - Gasr el Arid (355)
    - Gambut No. 1 (356)
    - Abiar Zaid (357)
    - Tobruk No. 5 (358)
    - Tobruk No. 3 (359)
    - Tobruk No. 2 (361)
    - Tobruk No. 1 (362)
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    Re: Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    Briefing for Blue

    Version 1.1.9

    Targets Blue:

    Destroy halted Allied armoured group south west of Mingar el Abram (AZ/6), waiting for order to reach front line. (24 pts.)

    Airfields: Tobruk No 1, Tobruk No 2 (LG145) el Gubbi, Tobruk No 3 (LG146), Tobruk No 5, Sidi Azeiz. (20 pts. per airfield)

    British tanker convoy (1pt. per ship), outbound Tobruk heading north-east. Last seen in AP/20.

    HMS Warspite, left Bardia about one hour ago heading north. Last seen in BA/16. (20 pts.)

    Fuel harbour Bardia, destroy fuel installations and tankers. (5 pts.)

    Fort Perrone (AP/19), vehicles and environment. (10 pts.)

    Fort Pilastrino (AP/18), vehicles and environment. (10 pts.)

    Seaplane base Sollum, destroy the seaplanes. (5 pts.)

    Cargo column near Gambut heading east. (4 pts - as it is twice big as a German column)

    Expect several Allied columns appearing during the mission. They will be announced as soon as reconned. (4 pts. each)

    Radar Stations: Tobruk, Abiar Zaid, Gasr el Abid, Scegga, Sidi Aziz, El Baheira (destruction will reduce enemy's radar capability).

    POINTS TO WIN: 150 pts.

    Defend:

    Protect halted Axis armored group west of Balaf ash Shaqitah (AU/3).

    Airfields: Sidi Rezegh, Haqfat Sha'ban, el Adem No 1, el Adem No 2, Menelao Bay.

    German tanker convoy, outbound Bomba heading north, located in AH/23.

    Two Leizpig-class-cruiser (Leipzig and Nürnberg), left Derna about one hour ago heading east. They were last reported in AE/26.

    Fuel harbour Tmini, fuel installations.

    Fuel depot near el Adem (AO/16), fuel installations and vehicles.

    Seaplane Base Ain el Gazala, seaplanes.

    Cargo column near Gazala heading east.

    Expect several Axis columns appearing during the mission. They will be announced as soon as reported.

    Radar stations: Gazala, Shu'Bat al Jandal, Sidi Rezegh, Bi'r al Hakim, Almaiah Alkhafia, Awdyat Ash Ahiyah.


    AI-bombers available in "Mission"-Menu.

    Be aware of Allied fighter patrols!

    NDB-beacons available on active airfields:

    - Bomba North (300)
    - Menelao Bay (310)
    - Gazala No. 1 (301)
    - Gazala No. 2 (311)
    - Haqfat Sha'Ban (312)
    - el Adem No. 1 (302)
    - el Adem No. 2 (303)
    - Sidi Rezegh (304)
    - Almiah Alkhafia (305)
    - Tariq al Ghubay (313)
    - Awdyat ash Ahiyah (306)
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    Re: Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    Sorry Matkenhaus, I was so exited that my big fat thumb hit the dislike button on my mobile! Of course I am very please to read about your mission!

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    Re: Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    Kayo I badly misread a post by Snapper one day and did the same thing

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    Re: Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    Technical question about the NDB-beacons:

    There are emitting stations on both the red and the blue side.
    I was flying a Ju88 and tried to tune into the frequencies of the red beacons, but could not lock any.
    Is this normal?
    In theory when you enter the correct frequency you should be able to get the signal no matter what the nationality of the transmitter equipment is. I mean in 1941 these were pretty basic NDBs, right?
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    Re: Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    Quote Originally Posted by IIJG27Rich View Post
    Kayo I badly misread a post by Snapper one day and did the same thing
    And I’ve never forgiven you!

    j/k





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    Re: Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Noofy View Post
    when you enter the correct frequency you should be able to get the signal no matter what the nationality of the transmitter equipment is
    This is correct. NDBs can be neutral too.

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    Re: Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper View Post
    And I’ve never forgiven you!

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    Re: Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    In theory yes, but from most of books I read would suggest these things in practise would only have been turned on when requested and correct morse daily code from the observer/pilot/radio op. They werent turned on and left for all. I would guess that would be same for both sides. The British were using the same Lorentz type system as the Germans although no doubt you could modify it, but in those days not easily or quickly and certainly not "on the fly".
    But when we gonna get the 6 spec ops wellies that were out there jamming//spoofing radio comms and NDB rf frequencies during 41?

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    Re: Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Noofy View Post
    Technical question about the NDB-beacons:

    There are emitting stations on both the red and the blue side.
    I was flying a Ju88 and tried to tune into the frequencies of the red beacons, but could not lock any.
    Is this normal?
    In theory when you enter the correct frequency you should be able to get the signal no matter what the nationality of the transmitter equipment is. I mean in 1941 these were pretty basic NDBs, right?
    Hi Noofy,

    to be honest, I tried to setup this NDBs as found here in the forum. I got some information from Spiritus, too. It is possible, that the NDBs are not correct implemented by me, will try to get more information about them and hopefully fix them!

    Greets
    matkenhauser

    Edit: Had to read it again to understand, that the blue NDBs are working for the blues but not the red NDBs. I read (or heard from Spiritus, not sure), that the red NDBs won't work in the game anyway. I implemented on both sides (just in case), but forgot at all to test any of them...
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    Re: Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    The NDB frequency setup above looks OK to me. Bear in mind that there are two beacons, with different ranges. The short range one is for airfield beacons. The long range one covers almost the whole map.

    I usually start the LW frequencies at 302 and go up by two. For the RAF I start at 298 and go down by two. Please don't leave them at 300, the default.

    Red, blue or neutral works the same. We don't have any red aircraft with working instruments yet.

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    Re: Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    Quote Originally Posted by FG28_matkenhaus View Post
    Had to read it again to understand, that the blue NDBs are working for the blues but not the red NDBs. I read (or heard from Spiritus, not sure), that the red NDBs won't work in the game anyway. I implemented on both sides (just in case), but forgot at all to test any of them...

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Oskar View Post
    The NDB frequency setup above looks OK to me. Bear in mind that there are two beacons, with different ranges. The short range one is for airfield beacons. The long range one covers almost the whole map.

    I usually start the LW frequencies at 302 and go up by two. For the RAF I start at 298 and go down by two. Please don't leave them at 300, the default.

    Red, blue or neutral works the same. We don't have any red aircraft with working instruments yet.
    Hmm...

    So two possibilities:
    1. Either the NDBs you used are short range NDBs and I was too far away (I can't remember how far I was from the red NDBs when I tried)
    2. Or the red NDBs do not function (like you read from Spiritus, but contradicting Oskar's statement)


    Looks like this needs more testing...

    EDIT: I remember that the blue NDBs were not readable from very far as compared to the NDBs on other maps, so it may be the range thing... Short ranged airfield NDBs are nice to have to retrieve the airfield when coming back home at night, but what really helps navigating in the desert are long range NDBs. I think their range is around 150km, so 2-3 disposed in a triangle should suffice on each side.

    EDIT2: correction, long range NDBs reach ~150 miles, that is ~240km
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    Re: Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    Ok, will have a look!

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    Re: Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    Beacon ranges

    Long Range - 350km
    Airfield - 150km

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    Re: Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    OK I checked. I can get the red beacon signals, however from short range. Did not test the range limit...
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    Re: Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Oskar View Post
    Beacon ranges

    Long Range - 350km
    Airfield - 150km
    Are you sure?
    I have not tested the airfield beams, but I am quite sure I lose the long range beam signal at about 240-250km...
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    Re: Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    I'm collecting the issues of this mission and will fix them soon, so Artist hasn't to change the server's files that often.

    @Noofy and Oskar: These long range NDBs have been placed to some prominent points, I think? Haven't any idea, would place them near bigger cities (when I find some on the Tobruk-map )
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    Re: Coming soon: Tobruk Siege

    v.-1.1.12 online since yesterday:

    - added long range NDBs on both sides (see ingame briefing for frequencies)
    - changed fighter AI to "free hunt" throughout their whole flight (was on "normal flight" some waypoints, so they won't react on being attacked)
    - specified achievable points for convoys (10 pts. for destroying the whole convoy)
    - some minor changes
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