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    First Look 4K Aircraft!!

    For those that like their visuals in 4k, enjoy this sneak peak into the continuous visual development in Cliffs of Dover Blitz and Desert Wings Tobruk.

    More information and screenshots coming later this weekend.

    Bf 109 E7 Trop 4K.jpgTell us what you think of this stunning in game screenshot of the 4K Bf 109 E-7 Trop.

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    Re: First Look 4K Aircraft!!

    Hmmmm....4K monitor for Christmas ?.......Honey !....
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    Re: First Look 4K Aircraft!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Torian View Post
    Hmmmm....4K monitor for Christmas ?.......Honey !....
    No!! because then we will need 8k textures

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    Re: First Look 4K Aircraft!!

    It looks fantastic even when you zoom in close to count the rivets!



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    It looks fantastic even when you zoom in close to count the rivets!

    I can't live without rivets. One of the most important aspects of the game!
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    Re: First Look 4K Aircraft!!

    What did a frog tell the other frog?..... rivets

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    Re: First Look 4K Aircraft!!

    I like it a lot
    This is going to be a nifty step up for some core visuals, well done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erpr.Gr.210_Mölders View Post
    I can't live without rivets. One of the most important aspects of the game!
    Its riveting stuff quite frankly

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    Re: First Look 4K Aircraft!!

    really beautiful , shame to shoot holes in it, but needs must.
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    Re: First Look 4K Aircraft!!

    Asked elsewhere but are the team working on getting rid of the herring bone shadows? The skin looks superb but the shadows really detract from this?

    Screenshot_20210731-093949_Chrome.jpg
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    Re: First Look 4K Aircraft!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticpuma View Post
    Asked elsewhere but are the team working on getting rid of the herring bone shadows? The skin looks superb but the shadows really detract from this?

    Screenshot_20210731-093949_Chrome.jpg
    I have just found out that if I shut my eyes really really tight I can't see them.



    I think this is probably the same issue as the sky banding you have pointed out a number of times previously.

    my guess is that the two are part of the same. which would lead me to believe it's a graphical issue deep within the original code.



    It doesn't actually bother me much as i rarely notice it in game (never noticed the plane version until you pointed it out just now) ... but i do get that it bothers you. And I can also see why.



    Shimmering trees? oh hell yeah!!.... banded shadows on planes... nope...

    might be because I have limited awareness generally



    I’m genuinely interested though. do you actually notice this in game? or just in screen shots?

    (both are equally valid !!!)


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    Re: First Look 4K Aircraft!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticpuma View Post
    Asked elsewhere but are the team working on getting rid of the herring bone shadows? The skin looks superb but the shadows really detract from this?

    Screenshot_20210731-093949_Chrome.jpg
    Hey guys...something that maybe you don't know...The sort of reticulation that you see on the aircraft it's not fault of TFS but of the video card ( At least for Nvidia users )...It's fault of the anti aliasing filters... they are proviking them

    As you can see in the sample image below if you regulate correctly the video card settings you will not have any...

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    Re: First Look 4K Aircraft!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Erpr.Gr.210_Mölders View Post
    Hey guys...something that maybe you don't know...The sort of reticulation that you see on the aircraft it's not fault of TFS but of the video card ( At least for Nvidia users )...It's fault of the anti aliasing filters... they are proviking them

    As you can see in the sample image below if you regulate correctly the video card settings you will not have any...

    Molders thanks for your reply, I tried your settings but sadly no change. I have looked at your image and can see the stripes across the aircraft:

    Stripes by mysticpuma2011, on Flickr

    Here are a couple of shots I took after trying Molders settings:

    Desktop Screenshot 2021.08.02 - 11.28.34.77 by mysticpuma2011, on Flickr

    Desktop Screenshot 2021.08.02 - 11.26.50.02 by mysticpuma2011, on Flickr



    Highseas, yes I see it in game more than in screenshots. Here's a clip of video (best viewed 4K):





    I also see how when I ask questions I appear to be complaining about the work being done and I really don't want to come across like that. I am genuinely asking questions that I hope have 'simple' fixes or in case I am doing something wrong, but I guess that means I am highlighting problems and it detracts from the work TFS are doing (and have done).

    I guess I'll just have to put it down to "it's CloD" and maybe future work, especially with PBR indicated as being considered, may erradicate it, cross fingers.

    Anyway, the 4K skins look superb and my shadow issue will no doubt one day be solved, cheers, MP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticpuma View Post
    I also see how when I ask questions I appear to be complaining about the work being done and I really don't want to come across like that. I am genuinely asking questions that I hope have 'simple' fixes or in case I am doing something wrong, but I guess that means I am highlighting problems and it detracts from the work TFS are doing (and have done).
    At least speaking for myself I have simply tried to help you with what currently available and at the best of my capabilities/knowledge. My intention was just to possibly help, nothing more.
    My suggested settings will not completely remove the issue because, effectively there seems to be an issue with the shaders ( My guess is due to the low res used by the game for render them ) but at least they will mitigate as much as possible the issue ( at least now you don't have anymore those very visble brown reticles but they have switched to a lot more soft tone ). In addition take in mind that there also other settings you have to deal with to mitigate the issue ( I'm writing a detailed guide about it )
    Fixing them then will be a TFS work ( I'm only a tester ) but I'm sure they will get rid of it in the future

    Again, personally speaking, until a criticism and the discussion is kept in civil way I have no problems at all with it. Constructive criticisms help and stimulate to improve, IMHO.
    Incompetents who pretent to be experts and who come here trying to impose their ideas/points of view in a harsh way are another story and they will get what they deserve.

    The big problem of the game it's not TFS ( That I'm sure that is trying to do its best to provide us a better game ) but the huge horde of incompetents loitering around/annoying them.
    Every time ( or at least the most of them ) that one of them show up you are ( intended as generic, no reference to anyone in particular, be clear ) somehow " forced " to reply to them and losing time that could be invested in more productive activities and stuffs.
    Certain persons should have the decency to recognise their limits and their very poor pilot skills and they should start to shut up a little bit more ( even better to just step aside ), especially when, someone with more knowledge and experience of them, is trying to help and provide his best and his free time to support to the community and the game.
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    Re: First Look 4K Aircraft!!

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    Re: First Look 4K Aircraft!!

    Thanks for replying, appreciate the reply and the detail you put 8nto trying to resolve the striping.. I look forward to the work of the testers and TFS coming to fruition.
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    Re: First Look 4K Aircraft!!

    Is MP seeing a moire effect? If so there may be tweaking to video card settings to improve this.

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    Re: First Look 4K Aircraft!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawson View Post
    Is MP seeing a moire effect? If so there may be tweaking to video card settings to improve this.
    Possibly

    It's really hard to tell without comparing two machines together.

    we have guys here running at very low resolution because they want to see blobs from far away.

    and guys who play in high res, because they prefer eye candy to far-blobs.

    That in itself makes it extremely hard to make any comparisons between what people see / expect to see.

    and chucking in all the variations in process or power / gpu power we are running makes its even harder to make any meaningful comparison between them all.


    What Mystic Puma has queried here is perfectly valid.

    I don't have an answer, but the theme is similar to hios posts on sky banding. which was prevalent in older games running 16 bit colour.

    I do not think that is the issue.

    This isn't a 16 bit colour game !!

    but i don't know enough to even hazard a guess as to what causes this.

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    "Process or power" ...

    Man!! (tough choice!!)

    I meant Processor power
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticpuma View Post
    Thanks for replying, appreciate the reply and the detail you put 8nto trying to resolve the striping.. I look forward to the work of the testers and TFS coming to fruition.
    No more questions from me

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    ask 'em.


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