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    IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    Greetings pilots! A new update is available on STEAM:

    *** New free campaign "Their Finest Hour" added to Blitz. [Cybermat47]

    *** Improved far target visibility for screen resolutions of 2560x1440, 4k, and beyond [Artist]
    Also see: Contact Spotting

    *** Fixed: Shaking aircraft ForceFeedback effects resulting from firing cannons are not added on top of cannon's own ForceFeedback effects anymore. [Artist]
    https://www.tfbt.nuvturais.de/issues/761

    *** New option to toggle all ingame info windows on/off (Options, Control, Chat) [Artist]
    https://www.tfbt.nuvturais.de/issues/1271
    This will hide or show all the info windows that you have configured (also hide the Net Stats if shown). Note 1: If you have used this to hide all windows and then use Send Message, Toggle Net Stats or Flash Net Stats, this will unhide all windows, too. Note 2: The current status will be remembered until you exit the game, but not beyond.

    *** A barrage balloon at Dover that caused crashes has been removed from the single missions A Busy Morning, Attack of the Eagles, Attack of the Kiwi, August Attrition, Corpo Aereo Italiano, and The Kanalkampf. [Cybermat47]
    Please note that when Single Missions are updated by TFS it is not automatic that you will see the updated missions in your game immediately. This is because TFS will *never* delete any files that are in your "\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover" folder! To get the updated Single Missions you must delete the existing missions in "\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\missions\Single" while the game is not running. Next time you start the game the updated Single Missions will be copied from the game's installation folder (...\Steam\steamapps\...) into "\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\missions\Single" where you can play them.

    *** Fixed: Mirror does not retain already subsided vibration/shake (when Difficulty "Head Shake" is disabled) anymore. [Artist]

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    Re: IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    visibility is now great, 1440p but, if you don't zoom, planes looks like a weird version of arkanoid game, you can't tell what they are doing =s

    if you roll the shape of the planes changes from flat to plus sign

    https://freeimage.host/i/RmkcV2

    and ffb feels weak, notice that hurricane looses ffb if you are in negative g and shooting
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    Re: IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    Not sure if this a bug or not, but toggle infowindows button not working when mouse cursor hidden by "toggle independent mode"(camera section) action. By the way "send message" button also not working in this mode (and it always was all the time since I started playing Cliffs 4.312).

    Maybe buttons that should interact with infowindows should "toggle independent mode" (camera section)?
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    Re: IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostic View Post
    Not sure if this a bug or not, but toggle infowindows button not working when mouse cursor hidden by "toggle independent mode"(camera section) action. By the way "send message" button also not working in this mode (and it always was all the time since I started playing Cliffs 4.312).
    Maybe buttons that should interact with infowindows should "toggle independent mode" (camera section)?
    Yes, the new "Toggle Info Windows" hotkey - just like the old "Send Message" hotkey - does not trigger when the mouse is switched to control the view ("Toggle Independent Mode"). To change that is another story for another time.

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    Re: IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    Quote Originally Posted by Lorena View Post
    visibility is now great, 1440p but, if you don't zoom, planes looks like a weird version of arkanoid game, you can't tell what they are doing =s
    if you roll the shape of the planes changes from flat to plus sign
    It was always thus - but now having increased visibility, that effect is more noticeable...

    Question: That screenshot, single player or multiplayer, if the latter which server. In both cases, activate console and type the mp_dotrange command, post the values here.
    (detailed instructions in the linked Contact Spotting, just use mp_dotrange with out any parameters)

    and ffb feels weak, notice that hurricane looses ffb if you are in negative g and shooting
    There were no additional changes beyond removing autocannon's shake from the total force feedback

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    Re: IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    Nice job can't wait to check the new dots visibility and options. Keep up the good work!
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    Re: IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    Danm, improved spotting at higher resolutions, what am I going to moan about now...don't worry I'll think of something

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    Re: IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    Quote Originally Posted by Artist View Post
    It was always thus - but now having increased visibility, that effect is more noticeable...

    Question: That screenshot, single player or multiplayer, if the latter which server. In both cases, activate console and type the mp_dotrange command, post the values here.
    (detailed instructions in the linked Contact Spotting, just use mp_dotrange with out any parameters)
    I just flew on TWC server and could spot contacts flying over England all the way from France. Pretty sure that that is not intended.
    Flying on 1080p here still.

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    Re: IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    Artist thanks for the work on the force feedback. I appreciate the time you spent on it. It's great to fire my cannons without my controller moving across the desk.

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    Re: IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawson View Post
    Artist thanks for the work on the force feedback. I appreciate the time you spent on it. It's great to fire my cannons without my controller moving across the desk.
    Thanks for your patience and help in this, too!

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    Re: IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    Quote Originally Posted by Karaya View Post
    I just flew on TWC server and could spot contacts flying over England all the way from France. Pretty sure that that is not intended.
    Flying on 1080p here still.
    TWC server has a configured dotrange of 25 km both for friendly and foe - I do not know what exactly "all the way from france" means.
    TWC-dotrange.jpg

    This is from the Contact Spotting - 1920x1080 - I have trouble seeing the last three at 14 km, 15 km, and 16 km
    path27-spitfires-01-16-1920x1080.jpg

    Use the Contact Spotting and post a screenshot here
    Last edited by Artist; Sep-30-2021 at 15:55.

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    Re: IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    Quote Originally Posted by Artist View Post
    TWC server has a configured dotrange of 25 km both for friendly and foe - I do not know what exactly "all the way from france" means.
    TWC-dotrange.jpg

    This is from the Contact Spotting - 1920x1080 - I have trouble seeing the last three at 14 km, 15 km, and 16 km
    path27-spitfires-01-16-1920x1080.jpg

    Use the Contact Spotting and post a screenshot here
    I have used the contact spotting mission many times before and prior to this patch could spot contacts out to ~13-14km. These contacts on TWC were much much further out than that.
    I took off a Zutkerque and could see several formations over mainland England right away. Initially thought they were some sort of flying ship anomalies but then quickly noticed they were moving.
    I did not fly over to England to check them out but I could basically see any aircraft flying over SE England right there.
    Will post a video shortly.

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    Re: IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    Quote Originally Posted by Artist View Post
    It was always thus - but now having increased visibility, that effect is more noticeable...

    Question: That screenshot, single player or multiplayer, if the latter which server. In both cases, activate console and type the mp_dotrange command, post the values here.
    (detailed instructions in the linked Contact Spotting, just use mp_dotrange with out any parameters)


    There were no additional changes beyond removing autocannon's shake from the total force feedback
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    Re: IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    Quote Originally Posted by Lorena View Post
    if you roll the shape of the planes changes from flat to plus sign

    https://freeimage.host/i/RmkcV2
    Far Target Dots overlay the 3d rendered model in mid-distance. Next patch

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    Re: IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    Quote Originally Posted by Artist View Post
    Greetings pilots! A new update is available on STEAM:

    *** New free campaign "Their Finest Hour" added to Blitz. [Cybermat47]

    *** Improved far target visibility for screen resolutions of 2560x1440, 4k, and beyond [Artist]
    Also see: Contact Spotting

    *** Fixed: Shaking aircraft ForceFeedback effects resulting from firing cannons are not added on top of cannon's own ForceFeedback effects anymore. [Artist]
    https://www.tfbt.nuvturais.de/issues/761

    *** New option to toggle all ingame info windows on/off (Options, Control, Chat) [Artist]
    https://www.tfbt.nuvturais.de/issues/1271
    This will hide or show all the info windows that you have configured (also hide the Net Stats if shown). Note 1: If you have used this to hide all windows and then use Send Message, Toggle Net Stats or Flash Net Stats, this will unhide all windows, too. Note 2: The current status will be remembered until you exit the game, but not beyond.

    *** A barrage balloon at Dover that caused crashes has been removed from the single missions A Busy Morning, Attack of the Eagles, Attack of the Kiwi, August Attrition, Corpo Aereo Italiano, and The Kanalkampf. [Cybermat47]
    Please note that when Single Missions are updated by TFS it is not automatic that you will see the updated missions in your game immediately. This is because TFS will *never* delete any files that are in your "\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover" folder! To get the updated Single Missions you must delete the existing missions in "\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\missions\Single" while the game is not running. Next time you start the game the updated Single Missions will be copied from the game's installation folder (...\Steam\steamapps\...) into "\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\missions\Single" where you can play them.

    *** Fixed: Mirror does not retain already subsided vibration/shake (when Difficulty "Head Shake" is disabled) anymore. [Artist]
    good job

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    Re: IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    Quote Originally Posted by Artist View Post
    *** Improved far target visibility for screen resolutions of 2560x1440, 4k, and beyond [Artist]
    Also see: Contact Spotting
    Any way to get the same contact spotting ability for us 1080p players as before this patch? I thought this was intended to improve spotting for the higher resolutions, not make it more difficult for the lower ones.
    Ever since this patch released I have noticed that spotting has become more difficult. Dots dont stand out as much anymore, seem to blend into the surrounding more quickly.

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    Re: IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    Quote Originally Posted by Karaya View Post
    Any way to get the same contact spotting ability for us 1080p players as before this patch? I thought this was intended to improve spotting for the higher resolutions, not make it more difficult for the lower ones.
    Ever since this patch released I have noticed that spotting has become more difficult. Dots dont stand out as much anymore, seem to blend into the surrounding more quickly.
    We did not change the dots for 1920x1080.

    These two pictures are cutouts (not resized!) from screenshots from patch-026 and patch-028, both running at (monitor's native!) 1920x1080. The only difference I can see is that for the one screenshot the pause key was pressed a second later (so the aircrafts had moved a few meters more).

    Spits@01-16_mpdr25km_1920x1080-Cutout-12.png


    Spits@01-16_mpdr25km_1920x1080-Cutout-1.png

    Also see: Contact Spotting Mission

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    Re: IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    Fair enough, I suppose it's up to the servers and server admins then.
    I remember TWC doing some wild dotrange experiments at the time when the update dropped and we started seeing star fleets and stuff.

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    Re: IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover and Desert Wings - Tobruk: Update 5.027

    Quote Originally Posted by Karaya View Post
    we started seeing star fleets and stuff.
    That was actually an unintended (and unexpected) sideeffect of calculating earth' curvature into the dots for ships ... quickly rectified in the 027-hotfix-1. No fault of TWC. But there was a temporary misunderstanding on the meaning of server's configuration mp_dotrange values - which also was quickly settled.

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