Bomber AI problems

[Veteran66]

Hi Devs

for the next Update some AI updates planned?

most need is Bomber formations fly (Waypoint and bombing) the AI brake out Formation, it is a very old bug and
group bombing with Human Leader

[RAF74_Buzzsaw]

Hi Devs

for the next Update some AI updates planned?

most need is Bomber formations fly (Waypoint and bombing) the AI brake out Formation, it is a very old bug and
group bombing with Human Leader

When you program the mission... are you adding waypoints such that the bomber formation has the opportunity to fly straight and level and at a consistent altitude prior to bombpoint?

Avoid changes or altitude or turns too close to bomb point.

[Veteran66]

and "drop the Bombs with Player" option?

[Veteran66]

When you program the mission... are you adding waypoints such that the bomber formation has the opportunity to fly straight and level and at a consistent altitude prior to bombpoint?

Avoid changes or altitude or turns too close to bomb point.

i add some Waypoints exacly heading north and fly self with Autopilot, the AI Wingman can`t hold the position.

[Bonditaria]

i add some Waypoints exacly heading north and fly self with Autopilot, the AI Wingman can`t hold the position.

Looks like you are going too fast for them?

Please refer to the recommended speeds posted historically by Buzzsaw:

EDIT RECOMMENDATIONS:


My 'one size fits all' recommended settings for speeds/climbs when setting speeds and creating waypoints in missions:


At Altitudes between 0-4000 meters set Speed for waypoints at:


275 kmh for fighters, Biplane fighters 250 kmh

220 kmh for bombers


At altitudes between 0-4000 meters, set Altitude Change time/distance at:


For 1000 meters increase in altitude, set 2 minutes between waypoints for fighters (equivalent 8.35 ms climb)

For 1000 meters increase in altitude set 4 minute between waypoints for bombers (equivalent 4.175 ms climb)


At Altitudes over 4000 meters set Speed for waypoints at:


250 kmh for fighters, Biplane fighters 225 kmh

200 kmh for bombers


At altitudes over 4000 meters, set Climb/Altitude Change at:


For 1000 meters increase in altitude, set 4 minute waypoints for fighters (equivalent 4.175 ms climb)

For 1000 meters increase in altitude set 8 minute waypoints for bombers (equivalent 2.0875 ms climb)


These settings should allow the players to keep up with the AI as well as allowing the AI to climb normally with achievable performance. Speeds in level flight should allow accurate bombing.

[RAF74_Buzzsaw]

If you go to accelerated game speeds coming up to a bomb waypoint, the AI will often have a problem.

You should be at normal speed prior to the waypoint at which you start the bomb run.

[Veteran66]

If you go to accelerated game speeds coming up to a bomb waypoint, the AI will often have a problem.

You should be at normal speed prior to the waypoint at which you start the bomb run.

of course I do some fly without time speed.



i make some test`s same Mission

He111 H2: Formation troubled
Wellington Ic: Formation good

so it is the plane Type who have problems with the Formations, can you test it?

[ATAG_Oskar]

I would suggest you create a second air group with just one bomber that has the same waypoints. That way you can fly with the formation and bomb with them but you won't be making them adjust their positions within the formation to follow your lead.

[Veteran66]

I would suggest you create a second air group with just one bomber that has the same waypoints. That way you can fly with the formation and bomb with them but you won't be making them adjust their positions within the formation to follow your lead.

Ju88, Ju87 and Me110 hold the formation, maybe there is a He111 AI Problem, can your Team check it?

will this fix in the next version?

[Veteran66]

Any News?

[RAF74_Buzzsaw]

We will look at this after we finish getting the Visual Update done.

[Veteran66]

We will look at this after we finish getting the Visual Update done.

ok, thx for the answers