Looking to build/get a new gaming PC since its time to retire win XP.
Does anyone use a curved monitor for flight sim? Any issues that you have found or any advantages?
How about using with Track/IR?
Thanks
Looking to build/get a new gaming PC since its time to retire win XP.
Does anyone use a curved monitor for flight sim? Any issues that you have found or any advantages?
How about using with Track/IR?
Thanks
Curved display may be good in case it is ultrawide really big size (40+ inches). Nice for content creators with a lot of windows. Flat screen is better for entertainment. 27" - 32" 16:9 or 16:10 QHD (2560x1440) flat screen is best for Track IR.
But I suggest to buy VR headset and good videocard for airsimmng.
Last edited by Rostic; Nov-06-2022 at 14:57.
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I have a 50" Samsung curved screen TV but found it lacking for CLoD. The center of the circle defining the arc of curvature was about 10' from screen center. So, unless you sit 10' from the screen, there is still no constant distance to the image which is what curved screen is all about. I put it in the bedroom and find that use to be very nice.
For gaming, I bought an LG 50" OLEDC7P (Flatscreen) which is truly spectacular. (Except for the price).
Don't compromise on the Graphics card though. Go ahead and spring for an Nvidia RTX 3080ti for 50" 4k gaming... you won't regret it. (Your wife might, but you won't).
Last edited by Baffin; Nov-06-2022 at 16:44.
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I also use a 50" lg oled tv, I would highly endorse Baffin's remarks, go for a high quality, Large, high refresh tv and the best GPU your budget will allow
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Make sure you also budget for a high powered graphics card etc.
without a high end machine you won't be wanting a high end headset.
For my part i flit from VR to flat screen. depending on whether i want visual candy outside, or a lovely cockit and sence of nausea in the turns!!
Both have their merits.
Car racing sims... VR all the way.... !
Flight sims...
Both are great as long as you have head tracking on a flat screen. I really can't imagine doing this without being able to look around .
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replied above... Track IR is a must. and you can easily get lost in the flight just with that.
VR eadset... you need a pretty heafty budget for a high end heaset, as you will need a high end card. and a high end machine to bung it in.
Its expensive.... and as everything with PC... it all goes out of date fairly swiftly !!
EDIT:
Don't let me put you off though !
VR is pretty spectacular.
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I have a VR question, and this question address’s the elephant in the room for me when it comes to going VR. How do you handle having to touch things on the desk top when playing a flight simulator game?
I just went through my switch and axis needs for a typical flight and I need to touch over 20 switches and 5 axis levers in addition to the joystick. Plus I need to look at two maps, one being the in-game map and the other is the TWC contact map which is on a window & presently is on a second monitor to my left.
Many of the controls are on the joystick which require no visual reference to find, but some are on the Warthog throttle which I still have to look for at times, and then there is the Falcon Gear Quadrant to the left of the throttle that I have to touch to adjust trim and radiator. And have you ever wanted to write something down while flying, or look at a reference sheet of information, how is that addressed in VR?
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That's exactly why I stopped using VR. I just could not move around realistically so instead, I've concentrated on big-screen 4K with sensitive TrackIR4 and a "Close to the screen" seating position. (Reading glasses required) I have stopped setting up controls for convenience and instead chose to position the physical controllers to approximate the actual position of the cockpit controls. For example, gear up in the Spitfire is a right handed operation... radiator control and trims are left handed.
This required some re-education training, but now that I'm used to it, any other control philosophy simply makes no sense to me. Cyber controls need to approximate the real thing for any degree of realism.
I also use keyboard commands when necessary, that approximate the switch positions. Ex: Q and W for ignition magnetos; F and R for Flaps and Retraction. They may not be in exactly the same place as the aircraft, but they do require a similar manipulation with the hands and fingers. Canopy operation is either hand in the upper center... "O" key does the trick for me.
It certainly is not as "Visually Immersive" as VR, but it does have higher detail resolution and I can drink my hot coffee or tea without fogging my screen...
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VR has pluses and minuses. You have to do everything by touch. First you fumble around like a blind man (duh) and then you start getting better at fumbling around like a blind man. It comes with practice. I also play classical guitar (badly) but I don't look at the frets that my left fingers are moving to, and I don't look at the precise string that my right handpicking. But at the beginning I had to, slowly, as I learned. I don't look at my hands when I shift gears in my car either.
I also just received my order for the Point-Ctrl "finger mouse" controls that can be used in DCS to allow you to reach out and control the virtual cockpit with your actual fingers. Will be seeing if I can make it work in CLoD which as we know has interactive cockpit controls. Finally I use Voice Attack voice recognition to voice-to-keypress to manage other things like say "open canopy" or request landing permission. Talking may not be historically accurate for say landing gear, but was for requesting permission to land. Apparently the Rafale (or is it Eurofighter?) has voice recognition. Voice Attack is not expensive at $10.
I know it's a lot and a further investment in time. But to me there is nothing comparable to putting on the headset and being in the cockpit. Nothing.
Paul
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I get both these last threads.
like Baffin I've flown cliffs (for way less time than he has) on a "flat" screen, with track IR
It is epic. Has been for ages.
We dont yet have VR in Cliffs. It is in testing.
We do though have a really tight loving and inclusive comunity
Pretty much all of us on flat screens and Track IR (which is awesome as I said)
For my own part i don't see this becoming a 2D vs 3D thing.
sure as hell hope not
In my squad I'm the only one 3D enabled.
and also the one calling on comms to my wingman Vamps... hey,, vamps... im blind... (and thats in 2D)
basically this sim had plenty of legs
When VR is released I can see myself flying both. Track IR is definitly not to be sniffed at... bang for buck it blows VR out of the water.
It is a fraction of the cost, give loads of immersion... and visualy quality is assured.
VR is a fickle beast.
its amazing... but... also often infuriating.
Back to the topic:
Curved screen...
I had one...
got a bigger flat one.
to be quite honest the cured thing? dont waste any money on that as a feature... unles your head is tiny, in a massively curved screen?
no...
its nonsence
i sold mine.
never missed it.
never really got anything notable out of it that i recall either
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- Big Screen Beyond -
- Virpil T50 Mongoos Flight Stick -
- TM Warthog Throttle -
- Slaw Device 109 Cam Rudder Pedals -
Highseas Peripherals
- Engine Switch Panel - Munitions Switch Panel - Throttle Quadrant Trim Box - Helicopter Collective - Analogue Brake Lever -
Operated by a 1972 Standard Issue Talking Monkey
- ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO - i9-13900k - ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 4090 OC - 32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR5 5600MHz -
- CORSAIR 1200w HX Series PSU - Corsair H100x Hydro Series CPU Cooler -
- Big Screen Beyond -
- Virpil T50 Mongoos Flight Stick -
- TM Warthog Throttle -
- Slaw Device 109 Cam Rudder Pedals -
Highseas Peripherals
- Engine Switch Panel - Munitions Switch Panel - Throttle Quadrant Trim Box - Helicopter Collective - Analogue Brake Lever -
Operated by a 1972 Standard Issue Talking Monkey
- ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO - i9-13900k - ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 4090 OC - 32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR5 5600MHz -
- CORSAIR 1200w HX Series PSU - Corsair H100x Hydro Series CPU Cooler -
- Big Screen Beyond -
- Virpil T50 Mongoos Flight Stick -
- TM Warthog Throttle -
- Slaw Device 109 Cam Rudder Pedals -
Highseas Peripherals
- Engine Switch Panel - Munitions Switch Panel - Throttle Quadrant Trim Box - Helicopter Collective - Analogue Brake Lever -
Operated by a 1972 Standard Issue Talking Monkey
Regards curved monitor or not.
It makes no difference. Had both. One cost a lot more... so.. for the same money. Flat... unless you have an infintely curved wallet
regards 2d 3d....
I have cut quotes from the threads above
3d or 2d?
Please read the original posts in full.
To me its both. Depending on your flight mission.
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- CORSAIR 1200w HX Series PSU - Corsair H100x Hydro Series CPU Cooler -
- Big Screen Beyond -
- Virpil T50 Mongoos Flight Stick -
- TM Warthog Throttle -
- Slaw Device 109 Cam Rudder Pedals -
Highseas Peripherals
- Engine Switch Panel - Munitions Switch Panel - Throttle Quadrant Trim Box - Helicopter Collective - Analogue Brake Lever -
Operated by a 1972 Standard Issue Talking Monkey
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