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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    The plane will drop a lot of altitude for a bit and if you full trim nose up will recover altitude slowly (not to the max it was). If you enage mode 22 and full trim nose up the average of the drop is between 500 and 700 meters (depending on altitude).

    The other way is to accelerate to 400 kms and after that engage autopilot (mode 22) - which i find hard to do.

    Bottom line: Line up around 3 grids away from the target to give you plenty of room for final adjustments, for Bombsight, speed and altitude indicator.

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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    Quote Originally Posted by Killerwhale View Post
    so is there anyway to control the loss of altitude when you engage autopilot?
    Yes!!

    Set landing flaps for approximately 18%,set mode 22 immediately.If the bounce appears cycle autopilot on off until no bounce.
    You will lose minimal height compared to using no flaps with the added bonus of no bounce on bomb run!
    Once stable you can retract the flaps to gain speed but this is when you will loose height quickly.I normally lift flaps to around 10% giving me a bombing speed of between 280 and 300 KPH IAS in level flight.

    Hope this helps..

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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    Hello, I am new for CLOD, I am curious that do we have to take into accout the crosswind during level bombing. if yes how could we do it and how we get the wind information? I am suprised that the crosswind is not mentioned in Chuck's guide.

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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    use the TAB menu for wind info...might vary map to map...but it does affect high alt bombing
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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    Hello Guys, I am wondering how to remove the front machinegun in cockpit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustav View Post
    Hello Guys, I am wondering how to remove the front machinegun in cockpit?
    On the load out screen under weapon sets, hit the down arrow next to the nose gun and pick empty.

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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    Nice, Thank you Torric270 for the quick reply. BTW do you know if we have a way to deal with cross-wind in level-bombing in CloD? Thank you very much again.

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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    Quote Originally Posted by Gustav View Post
    Nice, Thank you Torric270 for the quick reply. BTW do you know if we have a way to deal with cross-wind in level-bombing in CloD? Thank you very much again.
    http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.co...highlight=wind

    For the most part these days I use +/- 3.5 for 2-3 m/s crosswinds in the Blenny and Br20.

    I hope this helps.
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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    That's a definitely great help. Thank you Torric270

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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    Quote Originally Posted by Gustav View Post
    That's a definitely great help. Thank you Torric270
    A good trick for high level bombing in strong wind is to come at the target from downwind or upwind, not crosswind.

    If you are flying into a 10 mph headwind, simply raise the bombsight velocity by 10 mph to account for it.

    Works great.
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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    Got the course autopilot working to an extent. Any tips to reduce swinging from side to side across the bearing of travel? Happens as I'm making minor course corrections when the target starts coming into view and the autopilot doesn't seem to stabilise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jameswgm View Post
    Happens as I'm making minor course corrections when the target starts coming into view and the autopilot doesn't seem to stabilise.
    And how you do those course corrections? With trimm or rudder/aileron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Lolsav View Post
    And how you do those course corrections? With trimm or rudder/aileron?
    On autopilot, by changing the autopilot course dial. Say I've set for 300 to come into Hawkinge, but when nearer I need to adjust say to 305-310. Or in that situation should I just switch over to r22 mode? Currently if I make any changes the plane starts swinging either side of the desired heading.

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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    See answer from Torric below.

    Have fun!
    Last edited by ATAG_Lolsav; May-10-2016 at 22:18. Reason: Torric had a better answer

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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    Quote Originally Posted by Jameswgm View Post
    On autopilot, by changing the autopilot course dial. Say I've set for 300 to come into Hawkinge, but when nearer I need to adjust say to 305-310. Or in that situation should I just switch over to r22 mode? Currently if I make any changes the plane starts swinging either side of the desired heading.
    If coming in on mode 1, you can still use your joystick to control aileron and pitch control, this should help smooth out the big movements. Also, once the plane is somewhat settled down, make sure the ball is centered with aileron trim.

    If on a bomb run, come in on mode 22 if you want a finer control and don't make too many big adjustments at a time. Also, for even more precise adjustments once in the bombsight, is to increase/decrease the directional gyro. This will give a smaller movement than the course AP.

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    If coming in on mode 1, you can still use your joystick to control aileron and pitch control, this should help smooth out the big movements. Also, once the plane is somewhat settled down, make sure the ball is centered with aileron trim.

    If on a bomb run, come in on mode 22 if you want a finer control and don't make too many big adjustments at a time. Also, for even more precise adjustments once in the bombsight, is to increase/decrease the directional gyro. This will give a smaller movement than the course AP.
    Great, I'll try that. Also when on the bombrun (level @ 5k), on r22, after the initial dive and it levels out I've had the plane what I can only describe as bob up and down in the vertical, speed was fine so unsure what caused it. Made it really awkward to aim the bombsight.

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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    try turning 22 off and on quickly..sometimes that helps with the bobbing up and down...or try a 111
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jameswgm View Post
    Great, I'll try that. Also when on the bombrun (level @ 5k), on r22, after the initial dive and it levels out I've had the plane what I can only describe as bob up and down in the vertical, speed was fine so unsure what caused it. Made it really awkward to aim the bombsight.
    Add a bit of flap along with what Saipan said, go in and out of 22 until it stops.

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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    Regards to all who have replied to my questions. Lastly for now, has anyone any general tips about how to manage a damaged JU88? e.g. damaged radiator/oil etc. Can you return to France with one engine? Picked up a load of damage on one engine on a recent flight and had no idea how to deal with it.

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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    You might find some useful info in this thread jameswgm

    http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.co...ghlight=Engine

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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    @Dammaged engine question

    Select that engine, set prop pitch to 8h30 to reduce drag, close both radiators (oil and water) and finally trimm out the plane to compensate the drift. Ju88 allows you to trimm the aileron which is really handy to keep it stable.

    Now you only have one engine, make sure you dont over rev it or force it too much.

    Most of the times, taking in account i still had height and was not beeing attacked anymore, i could nurse the ride back home. Its a challenge to do that.

    Have fun!

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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Lolsav View Post
    @Dammaged engine question

    Select that engine, set prop pitch to 8h30 to reduce drag, close both radiators (oil and water) and finally trimm out the plane to compensate the drift. Ju88 allows you to trimm the aileron which is really handy to keep it stable.

    Now you only have one engine, make sure you dont over rev it or force it too much.

    Most of the times, taking in account i still had height and was not beeing attacked anymore, i could nurse the ride back home. Its a challenge to do that.

    Have fun!
    Managed to get back from England after one engine was disabled by a Spit, appreciate the advice.

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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Lolsav View Post
    @Dammaged engine question [...]
    And if still on board do not forget to jettison your bomb load. Can easily be forgotten in the heat of the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATAG_Torric270 View Post
    http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.co...highlight=wind

    For the most part these days I use +/- 3.5 for 2-3 m/s crosswinds in the Blenny and Br20.

    I hope this helps.
    Thanks this was a great help.

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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    The plane just keeps steering to the left before take off, and then a crash. any solution? this happens when taking off, I have no problem keeping the plane centered to runway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerwhale View Post
    The plane just keeps steering to the left before take off, and then a crash. any solution? this happens when taking off, I have no problem keeping the plane centered to runway
    Yeah, it does, so you need to correct the drift with right rudder. Locking the tailwheel helps too. If youve locked the tailwheel however, once it lifts it has no influence. So you may need to apply a little right rudder as you raise the tail to (but not much).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boosterdog View Post
    Yeah, it does, so you need to correct the drift with right rudder. Locking the tailwheel helps too. If youve locked the tailwheel however, once it lifts it has no influence. So you may need to apply a little right rudder as you raise the tail to (but not much).

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    Hi, I've got a question about prop pitch. I set the control of it to a secondary axes, and it work great with other aircrafts (109, 110). Conversely, the ju88 seems sitck at 10.15 and when a try to increase/decrease the prop pitch it works only if the axe is at full course: when I release it (indipendently if I reach higher or lower prop value of 10.15), the prop come back autounomusly to 10.15.
    Any suggestions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparviero1946 View Post
    Hi, I've got a question about prop pitch. I set the control of it to a secondary axes, and it work great with other aircrafts (109, 110). Conversely, the ju88 seems sitck at 10.15 and when a try to increase/decrease the prop pitch it works only if the axe is at full course: when I release it (indipendently if I reach higher or lower prop value of 10.15), the prop come back autounomusly to 10.15.
    Any suggestions?
    Thanks
    I couldn't replicate your problem but was only throttling up the engine on the ground and adjusting the prop. The clock may behave differently once the aircraft is in motion.

    I have the prop for Axis fighter and bomber set on two buttons though. In the past ive had the 88 prop set to an axis. I cannot recall any problems other than some imprecision (although I never watched the pitch clock because my understanding is that its the RPM dial that's important) -as such as long as my RPMs didn't race I was happy - I did have engine readout on digital though and the prop percentage remained constant to its selected position one the prop had caught up ( idont know what the clock did).

    I on balance I prefer the button to the axis on most German stuff.

    Assuming that is not a Clod bug (so the RPMs do respond but the clock doesn't) and your revs race or drop as the clock goes back to 10:15, the only other thing that I can think of is that you have something conflicting but I think that this would be almost impossible in the current clod controls sets up.

    The only other thing that I can then think of checking are your deadzomes and curves for that controller.

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    Re: Ju 88 Tutorials

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparviero1946 View Post
    Hi, I've got a question about prop pitch. I set the control of it to a secondary axes, and it work great with other aircrafts (109, 110). Conversely, the ju88 seems sitck at 10.15 and when a try to increase/decrease the prop pitch it works only if the axe is at full course: when I release it (indipendently if I reach higher or lower prop value of 10.15), the prop come back autounomusly to 10.15.
    Any suggestions?
    Thanks
    Sounds like your axis goes back to neutral which the 109/110 needs. The 88 is variable pitch and will set the pitch at where the axis stops and is reverse of 109/110 in CLOD (100 % is zero) just select reverse button in control setup.
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