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    Hawker Hurricane controls

    This is a list of all the controls needed to fly and fight with all Hawker Hurricane models.


    Hawker Hurricane

    Wheel Chocks

    toggle primary cockpit illumination
    toggle secondary cockpit illumination

    increase sight distance
    decrease sight distance (sets your gunsight to selected convergence)

    adjust gunsight left
    adjust gunsight right (sets the wingspan of target in gunsight)

    toggle gunsight illumination

    course setter - increase
    course setter - decrease

    directional gyro - increase
    directional gyro - decrease

    toggle selected engine (ignition)

    directional controls (ailerons, elevators, and rudder)

    trim controls (elevator and rudder)

    lean to gunsight

    fire guns

    throttle

    boost cut-off

    fuel cock #1 - toggle (main, auxiliary, off)

    fuel contents gauge selector - next
    fuel contents gauge selector - previous

    increase mixture
    decrease mixture

    magnetos #1 - toggle
    magnetos #2 - toggle (optional)

    open radiator
    close radiator

    increase propeller pitch
    decrease propeller pitch

    raise landing flaps position
    lower landing flaps position

    raise undercarriage
    lower undercarriage

    engage emergency undercarriage system

    wheel brakes

    map

    toggle canopy

    jettison canopy

    bail out


    Many of these controls can be set to axes controls, and some are not needed for certain models.
    Put your most used controls closer to your fingertips, for easiest access and better comfort.


    Good luck and have fun.
    Last edited by ATAG_DRock; Jan-30-2015 at 10:48.

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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    It is possible to leave flat stall in Hurricane? I tried, but i cannot do literally nothing. Plane doesnt react. I used opposite rudder and push stick forwards - nothing. I just centered stick - nothing.

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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    Quote Originally Posted by gombrowitch View Post
    It is possible to leave flat stall in Hurricane? I tried, but i cannot do literally nothing. Plane doesnt react. I used opposite rudder and push stick forwards - nothing. I just centered stick - nothing.
    The Hurricane does have bad spin characteristics. It is possible to recover, but it takes time. A long time....


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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    Also don't forget to chop throttle.

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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    I choped throtle also and had a lot of time. I just bailed out after long time.

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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    Flat spin, you will not get out of. You can try everything and anything but with no airflow over the control surfaces you are out of luck.

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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    A diagram of where they go?

    Also the course setter is tiny and unreadable ,also the Gyro so I don't need those.

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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    Quote Originally Posted by DarrenMc View Post
    A diagram of where they go?

    Also the course setter is tiny and unreadable ,also the Gyro so I don't need those.
    Yes, the compass and course setter can be a pain, but it’s historically accurate. Once you get use to it, it’s easy to read. I can quickly glance at the compass and know which way I’m heading. The gyro is used to give you a heading, but it’s a sensitive instrument and needs to be calibrated once you are airborne. Once set, put your mouse on it, and it will give you a digital reading.

    The keys and axes go where you want them to. I don’t use any default bindings.

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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    Quote Originally Posted by DRock View Post
    Yes, the compass and course setter can be a pain, but it’s historically accurate.
    No, they are not "historically accurate", Course Setter lack an important feature, the reference line - called "Lubber Line", for set desired course, a detail that ruin the experience of try use this instrument "historically". Is need use the dumb digital display (HUD).
    For navigation purpose both are "half done" - Course Setter and HUD.

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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    Quote Originally Posted by 1lokos View Post
    No, they are not "historically accurate", Course Setter lack an important feature, the reference line - called "Lubber Line", for set desired course, a detail that ruin the experience of try use this instrument "historically". Is need use the dumb digital display (HUD).
    For navigation purpose both are "half done" - Course Setter and HUD.
    Yes, there is a lubber line, it works, and is historically accurate.

    I can teach you how to use it all if you like. Compass, Gyro, course setter, declination, map,...
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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    Quote Originally Posted by DRock View Post
    Yes, there is a lubber line, it works, and is historically accurate.

    I can teach you how to use it all if you like. Compass, Gyro, course setter, declination, map,...
    Please take a moment to post how this is displayed. The lack of lubber lines in the RAF fighters in CLoD has been a navigation shortcoming since the beginning and I'd like to learn how to display them in CLoD.
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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    Quote Originally Posted by Baffin View Post
    Please take a moment to post how this is displayed. The lack of lubber lines in the RAF fighters in CLoD has been a navigation shortcoming since the beginning and I'd like to learn how to display them in CLoD.
    Ok, good, a real pilot. Hi Baffin.

    The two parallel lines which rotate with course setter keys, I understood were called the lubber lines.

    I rotate them to desired course + 10 degrees for declination. Rotate plane until compass North is parallel to the lubber lines (and pointing to red N). With no wind, that is your desired direction.

    How else have I managed to navigate this map as well as training others to do so?

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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    Have I mistaken the term 'lubber lines'?

    Cliffs of Dover Hurricane (rotol100oct) cockpit.

    COMPASS.jpg

    My heading is 10 degrees magnetic, 0 degrees on the map.


    WW2 RAF Aircraft compass

    compass2.JPG
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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    Sokol originally posted this image on the ED forum.

    https://goo.gl/images/5ygEso

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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    Quote Originally Posted by DRock View Post
    Have I mistaken the term 'lubber lines'?

    Cliffs of Dover Hurricane (rotol100oct) cockpit.

    COMPASS.jpg

    My heading is 10 degrees magnetic, 0 degrees on the map.


    WW2 RAF Aircraft compass

    compass2.JPG
    Yes, you have misunderstood the term "Lubber Line". A lubber line is a fixed line across the compass case which indicates the forward and back direction of the airplane. The compass rotates beneath the fixed lubber line and is read by looking through the lubber line. Sometimes they are referred to as "Upper Lubber Line" (Pointing forward) and "Lower Lubber Line" which references aft.

    Entering "Lubber Line" into your favorite search engine will provide more information on this subject than you could have ever dreamed of.
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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    Quote Originally Posted by Baffin View Post
    Yes, you have misunderstood the term "Lubber Line". A lubber line is a fixed line across the compass case which indicates the forward and back direction of the airplane. The compass rotates beneath the fixed lubber line and is read by looking through the lubber line.

    Entering "Lubber Line" into your favorite search engine will provide more information on this subject than you could have ever dreamed of.
    Thanks for clarifying that. My mistake.

    I'm able to navigate just fine without it, apparently.



    Edit: The lines I was referring to are called boxing marks. Lubber line is a fixed mark on compass which indicates aircraft's direction of travel or centerline.
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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    The lack of "Lubber Line" in CloD P-8 compass defies any try in make "full real" navigation - I hate "blue'rish digital HUD's".

    I was told that this is a "unimportant" detail, that maybe someday... maybe will be fixed.

    DCS Spifire has this, but is modeled wrong, although usable.
    In IL-2:GB Spitfire compass/DG adjust is automated, so you don't have to do nothing, just follow DG as an "GPS".

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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    Quote Originally Posted by 1lokos View Post
    The lack of "Lubber Line" in CloD P-8 compass defies any try in make "full real" navigation - I hate "blue'rish digital HUD's".

    I was told that this is a "unimportant" detail, that maybe someday... maybe will be fixed.

    DCS Spifire has this, but is modeled wrong, although usable.
    In IL-2:GB Spitfire compass/DG adjust is automated, so you don't have to do nothing, just follow DG as an "GPS".
    You’re being petty, lokos.

    The compass works just fine. I’ve taught many to use it. So what if you need digital assistance. With the restraints from lack of full movement (because it’s not real life), a little HUD helps fill in the realism gaps.

    I’m not sure how you’ve made it this far when you would complain about this.

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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    I don't want use digital "HUD" - boring me see at very take-off/landing "Wheel brakes 80%, wheel brakes 81%, wheel brakes 82%..." - how someone think that this is needed in flight game?

    Then how I will adjust Courser Setter for fly "red on red" like RL pilots tel in their "anecdotes"?

    I bet that 99% of players (specially MP) just want an digital HUD that show - like most Luftwaffe pilots cheat with pop-up over compass:

    HDG: 297º.

    In the way that thing is, in British planes the digital HUD is not sufficient for navigate, neither the pop-up (like in LW planes), neither the analog compass - there's nothing near top o compass for create and reference, why the guy that project the dam thing add the "blessed" Lubber Line, that in game will be just a small rectangle in 2D.

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    "What General Weygand has called the Battle of France is over... the Battle of Britain is about to begin!"
    (Winston S. Churchill.)

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    Re: Hawker Hurricane controls

    Quote Originally Posted by 1lokos View Post
    like most Luftwaffe pilots cheat with pop-up over compass:
    Yep, well done on your sweeping statements. Throwing shade at the rest of the community doesn't validate your opinion. Besides, our compasses are perfectly legible. We're far more bothered about our engine temperatures.

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