Hello,
HAT is working very strange in this game. Every 5 seconds view is centering even if i dont touch button for centering view. Is there any chance to improve it without additional programs?
Hello,
HAT is working very strange in this game. Every 5 seconds view is centering even if i dont touch button for centering view. Is there any chance to improve it without additional programs?
Hi gombrowitch,
Do you have Freetrack installed by any chance? If so, you'll have to start it even if you're not using it or things like this will happen.
Is a Freetrack issue and not a game issue.
Colander.
This sounds like 'Snap View'....Go into controls and make sure that your hat switch is set for 'Pan View'...not 'Snap View'
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HAT in CloD work in the same way as in il-2 1946, PAN in 45 degrees increments or SNAP (return to center when HTA is released).
What you describe seems a conflict... like with mentioned Freetrack.
With HAT you have a better control if use HAT to do "mouse view" with external programs like JoytoKey or NewView.
Sokol1
I deleted all links in Snap menu and its still an issue. I dont use FreeTrack. Only HAT. When i press F9 i cant move at all or i can move, but view is centered randomly.
It looks like that (i dont used key for centering view):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG2WI...ature=youtu.be
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[QUOTE=gombrowitch;101304]I deleted all links in Snap menu and its still an issue. I dont use FreeTrack. Only HAT. When i press F9 i cant move at all or i can move, but view is centered randomly.
CloD - like il-2'46 have two mode to use HAT for POV control.
Snap View - Press HAT left (e.g) camera more to 90 degrees left, when release HAT left the camera swing to center.
Pan View - Press HAT left (e.g) camera move 45 degrees and stay, press again and move more 45 degrees, etc.
To go back to center press HAT right 4 times or use a key/button for "Return to front view" or "Reset camera" (Camera section).
F9 switches between these two modes.
In this video seems that a mouse button is configured to "Reset camera"...It looks like that (i dont used key for centering view):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG2WI...ature=youtu.be
Sokol1
I set it to 0, but its still randomly centering.
conf.ini
Its also centering, when im using zoom in and out button.Code:[BOB] [window] DepthBits =24 StencilBits=8 DrawIfNotFocused=0 SaveAspect=0 [NET] speed=100000 localPort=27015 serverName=My Server serverDescription=IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover serverInfo1= serverInfo2= serverInfo3= serverInfo4= VAC=1 maxPlayers=255 socksEnable=0 socksHost= socksPort=1080 socksUser= socksPwd= [Console] IP=20001 UseStartLog=1 WRAP=1 PAUSE=1 HISTORY=1024 HISTORYCMD=1024 PAGE=20 LOG=0 LOGTIME=0 LOAD=console.cmd SAVE=console.cmd LOGFILE=log.txt LOGKEEP=0 [rts] ; 0 - not use, 1 - show cursor and not capture, 2 - not show cursor, and capture mouseUse=2 ; 0 - not use, 1 - use if hardware exist joyUse=1 ; 0 - not use, 1 - use if hardware exist trackIRUse=0 [rts_mouse] SensitivityX=1.0 SensitivityY=1.0 SensitivityZ=1.0 Invert=0 SwapButtons = 0 [rts_joystick] FF=1 [core] RandSeed = 0 TexQual=3 TexFlags.PolygonStipple=0 Shadows=1 SpecularLight=2 DiffuseLight=2 DynamicalLights=1 MeshDetail=1 LandShading=1 LandDetails=1 Sky=3 Forest=2 VisibilityDistance=3 LandGeom=2 DrawCollisions=1 Water=-1 Effects=1 EffFlags.Light=1 EffFlags.SpriteRender=0 Grass=3 CordEffect=1 UseFog=0 UseLandCube=1 UseLandConnectedObject=1 LinearObjectManager=1 Roads=1 Sun=1 Clouds=1 EffFlags.LightSpritesProj=1 ShadowMapSize=5 TexFlags.AsyncLoad=1 TexFlags.ShowTexture=0 SimpleMesh.SWTransform=0 SimpleMesh.QuadTreeClip=1 SimpleMesh.InstancingHW=1 EffFlags.LightContextSprites=1 CloudsFlags.Detailed=1 TexFlags.CreateHDR=1 Decals=1 EffFlags.SWLight=0 TexFlags.CockpitOnePass=0 MegaTexture=0 TexFlags.Reflection=0 RenderTargetQual=3 MSAA=0 MeshStatics=1 MeshStaticsDetail=2 SimpleMesh.QTNoCompose=0 MeshFirstLod=0 MeshShowLod=0 SpawnHumans=0 [sound] SoundUse=1 DebugSound=0 SoundEngine=1 Speakers=1 Placement=0 SoundFlags.reversestereo=0 RadioFlags.Enabled=1 RadioEngine=2 MusicVolume=14 ObjectVolume=7 MusState.takeoff=1 MusState.inflight=1 MusState.crash=1 MusFlags.play=1 MasterVolume=14 Attenuation=7 SoundMode=0 SamplingRate=0 NumChannels=2 SoundExt.occlusions=1 SoundFlags.hardware=1 SoundFlags.streams=1 SoundFlags.duplex=1 SoundExt.acoustics=1 SoundExt.volumefx=1 SoundFlags.voicemgr=1 SoundFlags.static=1 VoiceVolume=8 Channels=1 SoundFlags.bugscorrect=0 SoundExt.extrender=0 SoundSetupId=8 ActivationLevel=0.02 Preemphasis=0.8 RadioLatency=0.5 AGC=1 PTTMode=1 RadioFlags.PTTMode=0 RadioFlags.PlayClicks=1 ActLevel=9 MicLevel=10 SoundFlags.UseRadioChatter=0 SoundFlags.AutoActivation=0 SoundFlags.forceEAX1=0 speakers=1
Last edited by gombrowitch; Mar-13-2014 at 06:07.
Game is now improved so you can wear a hat while playing.
sorry.. couldnt resist.... :/
gombrowitch
Past here you User.ini code - I will test on my install.
Sokol1
confuser.ini
Code:[BOB] hotkeys = HotKey BOB difficulty=131072 lastSingleMiss=missions/Single/Bomber Intercept - Ships.mis [HotKey BOB] S=static Alt F4=exit P=pause L=land Alt X=exit PrintScreen=ScreenShot [Config viewSet] AzimutSpeed=0.1 TangageSpeed=0.1 LenSpeed=0.1 MinLen=1.0 DefaultLen=20.0 MaxLen=30000.0 Speed=6 Offset=2 [DashBoard] 0=1 153.600 0.000 0.600 1=1 870.400 0.000 0.600 2=1 0.000 281.600 0.500 3=1 0.000 153.600 0.500 4=1 0.000 409.600 0.500 5=1 870.400 153.600 0.600 6=1 870.400 307.200 0.600 7=1 716.800 0.000 0.600 8=1 0.000 0.000 0.600 [HotKey gui] Escape = activate MouseRight = popupmenu [HotKey Console] ;BackQuote=Activate Control Tab =Activate [FreeFly] MouseLeft= A=Azimut- D=Azimut+ S=Tangage+ W=Tangage- Q=Kren- E=Kren+ V=Speed+ C=Speed- [FreeFly Config] AzimutView=1.0 TangageView=1.0 SpeedAzimut=50.0 SpeedTangage=50.0 SpeedKren=50.0 MaxSpeed=1000.0 Acselerate=100.0 [HookViewFly Config] timeFirstStep=2.0 deltaZ=10.0 [FreeFlyXYZ] Left=Y+ Right=Y- Down=X- Up=X+ Home=Z+ End=Z- Delete=A- PageDown=A+ Control Left=SpeedMul Control Right=SpeedMul Control Down=SpeedMul Control Up=SpeedMul Control Home=SpeedMul Control End=SpeedMul Control Delete=SpeedMul Control PageDown=SpeedMul [FreeFlyXYZ Config] SpeedXYZ=20.0 SpeedAzimut=20.0 SpeedMul=0.1 [HotKey artillery_gunner] Up = GunUp Down = GunDown Right = GunRight Left = GunLeft Space = GunFire S= StopMovement M= StartMovement F = FastTracking T = FineTrackig [Config pilotMove] aileron=1 0.01 0.02 elevator=1 0.01 0.02 rudder=1 0.02 0 trimaileron=0 0 trimelevator=0 0 trimrudder=0 0 throttle=0.05 0.95 0.02 0.02 0.02 pitch=0 0 mix=0 0 compressor=0 0 oilradiator=0 0 radiator=0 0 flaps=0 0 underc=0 0 brakes=0 0 throttle0=0 0 0 0 0 throttle1=0 0 0 0 0 throttle2=0 0 0 0 0 throttle3=0 0 0 0 0 throttle4=0 0 0 0 0 throttle5=0 0 0 0 0 throttle6=0 0 0 0 0 throttle7=0 0 0 0 0 pitch0=0 0 pitch1=0 0 pitch2=0 0 pitch3=0 0 pitch4=0 0 pitch5=0 0 pitch6=0 0 pitch7=0 0 mix0=0 0 mix1=0 0 mix2=0 0 mix3=0 0 mix4=0 0 mix5=0 0 mix6=0 0 mix7=0 0 radiator0=0 0 radiator1=0 0 radiator2=0 0 radiator3=0 0 radiator4=0 0 radiator5=0 0 radiator6=0 0 radiator7=0 0 oilradiator0=0 0 compressor0=0 0 oilradiator1=0 0 compressor1=0 0 compressor2=0 0 oilradiator2=0 0 compressor3=0 0 oilradiator3=0 0 oilradiator4=0 0 compressor4=0 0 oilradiator5=0 0 compressor5=0 0 oilradiator6=0 0 compressor6=0 0 compressor7=0 0 oilradiator7=0 0 bombbaydoor=0 0 impellerretr=0 0 airbrake=0 0 carbheater=0 0 carbheater0=0 0 carbheater1=0 0 carbheater2=0 0 carbheater3=0 0 carbheater4=0 0 carbheater5=0 0 carbheater6=0 0 carbheater7=0 0 leslats=0 0 brakeslt=0 0 brakesrt=0 0 throttle_wep=0 0 [Config turretMove] turretyaw=0.5 0 0 turretpitch=0.5 0 0 [HotKey vehicleDriver] Control S=start_movement Alt S=stop_movement Control D=toggle_dir Down=brake Right=turn_right Up=accelerate Left=turn_left Alt D=toggle_hand_brake [HotKey vehicleGunner] Space=gun_fire [Config vehicleMove] ower=0 0.9 0 0 0 power=0 0.9 0 0 0 [HotKey camposMouseXYZ] MouseLeft=AT MouseRight=XYZmove F7=SpeedFast F6=SpeedNormal F5=SpeedSlow F8 MouseLeft=Kmove [LastFocus] 969305076=bExtras -1332861808=bStatistic -1137074434=bRealism 1899961994=bQuickMission -372350066=bServer 628377810=training5 1862295808=bControls 2134622242=bBuilder 2084280354=bExtras [HotKey pilotMove] Joystick1+AXE_Z=1rudder Joystick+AXE_Z=-1throttle Joystick2+AXE_Y=1elevator Joystick2+AXE_X=1aileron [HotKey view] Control F2=outsideViewNextEnemy Control F1=toggleShowCabin Y=padlockViewPrev Alt F7=outsideViewEnemyDirectGround U=padlockViewNext Alt F6=outsideViewEnemyDirectAir Alt F2=outside Alt F1=inside M=toggleShowMirror C=nextCabin Shift C=changeCabin Control C=prevCabin Alt 9=cabin9 Alt 8=cabin8 Alt 7=cabin7 Joystick2+Key3=padlockViewForward Alt 6=cabin6 Alt 5=cabin5 Alt 4=cabin4 Alt 3=cabin3 F8=outsideViewFollow Alt 2=cabin2 F7=outsideViewEnemyGround Alt 1=cabin1 F6=outsideViewEnemyAir F5=padlockViewGround F4=padlockView F3=outsideViewFly F2=outsideView Shift F7=outsideViewFriendGround F1=insideView Shift F6=outsideViewFriendAir Shift F5=padlockViewFriendGround Shift F4=padlockViewFriend Shift F2=outsideViewNextPlane Shift F1=toggleAim [HotKey viewSet] Alt MouseLeft=DashBoard End=fov70 PageDown=fov90 Delete=fov30 Mouse5=FOV MouseMiddle=Rotate F10=StartStop MouseRight=Len MouseLeft=Offset NumPad/=Reset [HotKey viewPan] NumPad-4=PanLeft2 NumPad-3=PanRight3 NumPad-2=PanDown NumPad-1=PanLeft3 Pov225 Joystick+Pov=PanLeft3 Pov270 Joystick+Pov=PanLeft2 Pov315 Joystick+Pov=PanLeft Pov0 Joystick+Pov=PanUp Pov45 Joystick+Pov=PanRight Pov90 Joystick+Pov=PanRight2 Pov135 Joystick+Pov=PanRight3 NumPad-9=PanRight NumPad-8=PanUp Pov180 Joystick+Pov=PanDown NumPad-7=PanLeft NumPad-6=PanRight2 NumPad-5=PanReset [HotKey viewSnap] NumPad-4=Snap_m2_0 NumPad-3=Snap_3_0 NumPad-2=Snap_0_m2 NumPad-1=Snap_m3_0 Pov225 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_m3_0 Pov270 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_m2_0 Pov315 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_m1_0 Pov0 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_0_2 Pov45 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_1_0 Pov90 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_2_0 F9=SnapPanSwitch Pov135 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_3_0 Pov180 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_0_m1 NumPad-9=Snap_1_0 NumPad-8=Snap_0_0 NumPad-7=Snap_m1_0 NumPad-6=Snap_2_0 NumPad-5=Snap_0_2 [HotKey timeSpeed] CloseBracket=timeSpeedUp OpenBracket=timeSpeedDown Quote=timeSpeedNormal [HotKey common] O=door_open Shift L=csec_lights A=autopilot Control O=door_close Control L=cpri_lights Control J=door_jettison Control E=bailout Alt L=cste_lights MouseLeft=fire Control Space=door_toggle [HotKey pilot] Joystick1+Key1=trigger1 Z=rudder_leftx X=rudder_rightx W=thtl_110 Joystick+Key15=airbrake Control NumPad-9=site_alt_plus V=landingflaps_d Shift BackQuote=engselect_all Control NumPad-8=site_dist_plus T=thtl_psicutout Control NumPad-7=site_spd_plus Control NumPad-6=site_side_right R=rad_auto Control NumPad-5=site_auto Control NumPad-4=site_side_left Joystick2+Key0=trigger01 Control NumPad-3=site_alt_minus Joystick+Key0=pitch_plus Control NumPad-2=site_dist_minus Control NumPad-1=site_spd_minus I=enginei01 Joystick+Key14=trigger3 G=uc Control Z=ruddert_left F=landingflaps_u Control X=ruddert_right Control W=abwurf_arm B=wheelbrakex Control T=thtl_slowcutout Equals=thtl_plus 9=extinguisher 6=rad_plus 5=rad_minus Control G=uc_down_emer Shift 8=engselect_n7 Joystick+Key12 Joystick+Key18=autorudder_off Shift 7=engselect_n6 Shift 6=engselect_n5 Control C=pilot_switch Shift 5=engselect_n4 Control B=bombbaydoors Shift 4=engselect_n3 Shift 3=engselect_n2 Shift 2=engselect_n1 Shift 1=engselect_n0 Down=elevator_downx Right=aileron_rightx Up=elevator_upx Left=aileron_leftx Control 7=rudder_leftx Joystick+Key12 Joystick+Key17=autorudder_low Shift Down=elevatort_ndown Shift Right=aileront_right Space=trigger0 Shift Up=elevatort_nup Shift Left=aileront_left Joystick+Key12 Joystick+Key16=autorudder_high Joystick1+Key3=trigger2 Joystick+Key3=pitch_auto MouseLeft=MouseControl Underscore=thtl_minus Backspace=thtl_wep Joystick+Key2=pitch_minus [HotKey turret] Control O=trt_park_toggle Down=trt_mount_d Right=trt_mount_r Up=trt_mount_u Left=trt_mount_l Shift Down=trt_down Shift Right=trt_right Shift Up=trt_up Shift Left=trt_left [HotKey orders] 9=order9 8=order8 7=order7 6=order6 5=order5 4=order4 3=order3 2=order2 1=order1 0=order0 Escape=deactivate Alt=select Control=expand Enter=Enter Tab=activate Backspace=Backspace [HotKey vehicle] Down=brake Right=turn_right Up=accelerate Left=turn_left Alt D=toggle_dir Space=fire [HotKey builder] NumPad-4=stepAzimut-15 NumPad-3=stepAzimut30 NumPad-1=stepAzimut-30 NumPad-0=insert+ Alt MouseRight=select- Alt MouseLeft=select+ Alt Control=unselect A MouseLeft=battleArea Control Z=Undo Control Y=Redo Control X=cut Control V=paste Insert=insert+ Control C=copy Control B=addBranch Home=change-- End=change++ PageDown=change+ PageUp=change- Delete=delete+ MouseRight=popupmenu F10=land MouseLeft=objectMove Shift MouseLeft=worldZoom Enter=freeView NumPad.=delete+ Tab=cursor Backspace=cursor Alt Right=Forward Alt Left=Backward NumPad-9=stepAzimut5 NumPad-8=resetTangage90 NumPad-7=stepAzimut-5 NumPad-6=stepAzimut15 Control MouseRight=delete+ NumPad-5=resetAngles Control MouseLeft=insert+ [HotKey builderMouseXYZ] F4 MouseRight=Zmove F5 MouseLeft=Amove Mouse5=Amove MouseRight=XYmove MouseLeft=Len F6 MouseLeft=Tmove F3=SpeedFast F2=SpeedNormal F1=SpeedSlow F7 MouseLeft=Kmove [ChatWindow] 0:-1=-posSize '0.003 0.870 0.206 0.130' -titleStr "Motor Controls" -alpha 130 -ualpha 0 -wrap -history 100 0:262144=-lay 1 -fnt 0 -clr 0 1:-1=-posSize '0.818 0.543 0.181 0.145' -titleStr "Secondary Controls" -alpha 130 -ualpha 0 -history 10 -timeout 15 1:5=-font 0 1:4=-font 0 1:7=-font 0 2:-1=-posSize '0.002 0.000 0.460 0.186' -titleStr "Info. Window 1" -alpha 130 -ualpha 25 -vscroll -wrap -history 100 2:393216=-fnt 0 -clr 54 -al 2 -tf 1 -sz 1 -sl 1 2:3=-font 0 2:131072=0 2:1=-font 0 2:6=-font 0 3:-1=-posSize '0.518 0.002 0.418 0.275' -titleStr Voice -border -alpha 130 -ualpha 0 -wrap -history 40 -timeout 30 3:2=-font 1 4:-1=-posSize '0.171 0.323 0.687 0.352' -titleStr NetStats -title -border -alpha 50 -ualpha 0 -custom 4:-2=-font 3 -color 139 -columnWidth '0.100 0.183 0.322 0.144 0.093 0.081' -columnSort 2
I tested you ConfUser.ini but dont notice nothing strange in use HAT to PAN VIEW's (SNAP dont work - see bellow). Or no spontaneous randomly return to center view.
When you hit F9 - to change for default PAN mode to SNAP mode - your HAT stop to work because SNAP views are mapped to POV (HAT) on Joystick 2 (how come the game) in your ConfUser.ini.I deleted all links in Snap menu and its still an issue. I dont use FreeTrack. Only HAT. When i press F9 i cant move at all or i can move, but view is centered randomly.
If want use, remap pressing your joystick HAT.
BTW - The only "strange" thing that I notice is that most planes I shoot start big fires or loose a wing... Your ConfUser.inu "realism" is all in "Easy mode".
Sokol1
Last edited by 1lokos; Mar-14-2014 at 09:54.
I dont know. Mine conf.ini dont have influence on server, so i dont care + i dont know, what is there easy mode, because i have full realism options in single players, besides unlimited ammo (i practice shooting in single player). I dont want use snap view. I just want have normally working HAT without this stupid random centering.
Last edited by gombrowitch; Mar-14-2014 at 05:56.
Just in case, test your joystick in Windows Control Panel > Game Controllers wizard to see if HAT are not send random press.
You dont have a gamepad/steering wheel plugged on computer? Or other controller that became this "joystick 2".
Make a copy of ConfUser.ini and then go to Controls > Snap View and delete all entries for joystick and keyboard commands, hit APPLY an test.
Sokol1
Do you have a control pad plugged in too? I know if I have a control pad plugged in (xbox 360 controller) my rudder pedals stop working. Just checking that you have only controllers necessary to play Clod plugged in?
Maybe worth (as a possible test), unplugging your joystick and launching the game, then using the numpad keys for snap view. If you get the same result (centres after 5-seconds) it's not a Joystick issue. Also, maybe unplug the joystick and plug it into a different USB socket?
Just a thought?
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Joystick 2 in Controls is not related with joystick mode (1, 2, 3)*, is how the game ordering plugged joysticks on computer, starting in "0"."joystick 2".
Joystick 0 = 1st joystick
Joystick 1 = 2nd joystick
Joystick 2 = 3rd joystick
...
"joystick" means any kind of HID controller (joystick, rudder, throttle, gamepad/joypad, steering wheel...)
* In Cobra M5 mode change buttons order, because this stick have 7 physical buttons (not include triggers) but his USB controller is capable to handle 21 buttons, so on mode 1 you use (controller) buttons 1-7, on 2 8-14 on 3 15-21 (or something similar).
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